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This pair of related ideas goes back to Aristotle and is central to the teaching of Aquinas. I do not question this, but how do I know if I properly understand the teaching?

For example, “Potency and Act divide being in such a way that whatever is, is either pure act, or of necessity it is composed of potency and act as primary and intrinsic principles.”

(This is the first of the twenty-four Thomistic Theses that, according to the Sacred Congregation of Studies, contain the principle and major tenets of St. Thomas’ thought, especially in metaphysics.)

That seems straightforward enough until one deals with cases of something moving “from potency to act” and there being more than one kind of potency and more than one kind of act. I don’t know if I’m getting this or kidding myself!
 
Hi Mark,

You might think of some examples of actuality and potentiality. Take an acorn, for instance. In actuality (act) it is merely an acorn. Yet, the acorn is an oak tree in potentiality (potency). So, moving from potency to act in this case would involve certain causes (e.g. soil, water, sunlight) acting upon the acorn to turn it into an oak tree. God, traditionally understood as Pure Act, is existence itself subsisting.
 
This pair of related ideas goes back to Aristotle and is central to the teaching of Aquinas. I do not question this, but how do I know if I properly understand the teaching?

For example, “Potency and Act divide being in such a way that whatever is, is either pure act, or of necessity it is composed of potency and act as primary and intrinsic principles.”

(This is the first of the twenty-four Thomistic Theses that, according to the Sacred Congregation of Studies, contain the principle and major tenets of St. Thomas’ thought, especially in metaphysics.)

That seems straightforward enough until one deals with cases of something moving “from potency to act” and there being more than one kind of potency and more than one kind of act. I don’t know if I’m getting this or kidding myself!
Would you mind to give an example of 2 kinds of potencies moving into 2 kinds of acts, please?
 
Would you mind to give an example of 2 kinds of potencies moving into 2 kinds of acts, please?
I don’t know that I can. I just know there is “actual potency” and “obediential potency” and that potency may be “perfect” or “imperfect” but I’m not sure I understand this. I understand that the intellect is in “actual potency” toward those things it could know / understand but does not yet. I suppose a dog may have an ‘actual potency’ to bite but not exercise it.
 
Would you mind to give an example of 2 kinds of potencies moving into 2 kinds of acts, please?
There is passive potency and active potency. Passive potency is the potential to receive from without. E.g., a still ball energy to be moved, a car fender to receive a [ghasp!] dent. Active potency is the capacity to act from within. E.g., to talk, for the chemical makeup of a match to burn, an acorn to grow.

Obediential potency is the capacity of a creature to receive a perfection directly from God or be moved directly by God beyond what that creature is naturally able to do. A miracle would be one example; and our elevation to a supernatural participation in the life of the Trinity by sanctifying grace is another.

I don’t know of two kinds of act. . . which doesn’t necessarily mean anything. There is substantial versus accidental change, but that’s not the same thing.
 
Thanks for the responses, everyone! I’m getting there…
 
There is passive potency and active potency. Passive potency is the potential to receive from without. E.g., a still ball energy to be moved, a car fender to receive a [ghasp!] dent. Active potency is the capacity to act from within. E.g., to talk, for the chemical makeup of a match to burn, an acorn to grow.

Obediential potency is the capacity of a creature to receive a perfection directly from God or be moved directly by God beyond what that creature is naturally able to do. A miracle would be one example; and our elevation to a supernatural participation in the life of the Trinity by sanctifying grace is another.

I don’t know of two kinds of act. . . which doesn’t necessarily mean anything. There is substantial versus accidental change, but that’s not the same thing.
First Actuality / Second Actuality. First involves capacity and the second involves operation. A first actuality is a second potentiality, what can be actualized from potentiality. And first potentiality is process or acquirement what is not a second potentiality, but this is contingent on a previous cause, or second actuality which, by necessity, terminates to a first mover (who is either pure act or a secondary cause able to move itself.)
 
This pair of related ideas goes back to Aristotle and is central to the teaching of Aquinas. I do not question this, but how do I know if I properly understand the teaching?

For example, “Potency and Act divide being in such a way that whatever is, is either pure act, or of necessity it is composed of potency and act as primary and intrinsic principles.”
Mark:

Welcome to CAF. Two great questions. Hopefully, you came to the right place for answers.

Potency and Act are two words that, as employed by Aquinas, have at least two distinct, yet similar, meanings. Let’s look at motion first. “Motion” means - in this case - not jiggling around, or rolling on a billiard table, but essential motion/causation, in other words, coming-to-be. It helps when defining a word to not merely re-use it in its definition, otherwise, one might define motion as “movement.” That’s wonderful, but it tells us absolutely nothing about - and definitely does not define - motion. St. Thomas attempts, successfully, I might add, to define “motion” without being tautological. It tells us nothing to say that “motion” is “movement,” or, “motion” is “traveling from point “A” to point “B,”” or “traversing space at light speed.” While such pseudo-definitions are true and useful, they ignore the action that is really taking place.

St. Thomas sees motion (and causation and coming-to-be) as that stage in between the start of a motion and the end of a motion. The beginning of any motion he regards as “a subject “in potency”” (as it is not yet “in act,” nor is it “acting”). In moving your arm from right to left, for example, it is in potency on the right and in act on the left. Your arm is said to be in act when it has come to the end its action and is fully at rest on the left. These two extremes represent the extremities of the action, but they have not been used to define “motion.”

Another example is that of an acorn becoming an oak tree. It is said to be in potency while still an acorn, and in act, when a grown tree. However, we seem to have left something out of the middle. There was something that took place and we seem to have disregarded it. Some kind of activity took place. But, “activity” is itself nothing more than another word for “motion.” So, we can’t use that. Instead, understanding that potency really means that the subject is “not fully actualized in that place yet,” as it would be if it was in Act, but is someplace in the flux in between. But that is the action of motion which allows St. Thomas to define motion as “the act of the potential as potential.”

What does that mean? Well, it means that the subject of motion, while still in the in between, is not in act as to itself (as the subject), but is in the in between and no longer in potency - to some greater or lesser extent. But, what is in act is precisely the in-between. The subject can no longer be said to be in potency, because it has left the gate, but, it cannot be said to be in act either, because it is not at the finish line. So, the in-between steps up to become a subject in and of itself. And why not? The action itself has as much right to be a subject of motion as does an arm. It is a reality that, sooner or later, will have Act, and, what is more, is experiencing potency and act, potency and act, all along its trajectory until the end where the primary subject will be, finally, in its own Act.

Once again, remember St. Thomas’s definition: motion is “the act of the potential precisely as potential.” (I have added the word and the underlining to accentuate what he meant.)
That seems straightforward enough until one deals with cases of something moving “from potency to act” and there being more than one kind of potency and more than one kind of act. I don’t know if I’m getting this or kidding myself!
The second kind of potency - act duet has to do with that which can be said to be within mobile being. When a rolling billiard ball stops rolling it can be said to be in potency to be in act some place else on the poll table, whereupon it will be in potency again. This does no more than specify current and previous states, and, as you should now be able to see, does not describe “motion” as we did above.

Consider a dog roaming through your yard. It is self-moving from place to place (a form of motion called local motion). Before the dog enters your yard, it can be said (about the dog) that it is in potency to be in act next to your oak tree. As soon as it is in act next to your oak tree, it may be in potency to be in act in your flower bed. As soon as it is in act in your flower bed, it may be said to be in potency to be in act in your neighbor’s yard. And so on. Thus, the dog is said to “contain” both species of motion’s extremities - the starting point, where it is in potency and the ending point, where it is in act. The dog does not actually contain those extremities, but it can be represented (in our conception and our speech) as if it contained them, particularly when we are speaking of local motion.

I hope this helps a little. I hope I haven’t made it more confusing. (I’ve got to go to bed now.)

God bless,
jd
 
There is passive potency and active potency. Passive potency is the potential to receive from without. E.g., a still ball energy to be moved, a car fender to receive a [ghasp!] dent. Active potency is the capacity to act from within. E.g., to talk, for the chemical makeup of a match to burn, an acorn to grow.

Obediential potency is the capacity of a creature to receive a perfection directly from God or be moved directly by God beyond what that creature is naturally able to do. A miracle would be one example; and our elevation to a supernatural participation in the life of the Trinity by sanctifying grace is another.

I don’t know of two kinds of act. . . which doesn’t necessarily mean anything. There is substantial versus accidental change, but that’s not the same thing.
Thanks a lot for the explanation…
That on that I have the passive potency to be crushed by a bulldozer is funny…
That is why I failed miserably in philosophy.
I was always thinking that it was a discipline for madmen !!!
No offense, I hope…😃
 
Thanks to all for contributing to this discussion.

I would like to consider the case of an athlete with an injury, say a sprained ankle.

The ankle has the potential to become healthy again, but also the potential to get worse (-say, he ‘gets back in the game’ too soon and aggravates the injury), or to remain so-so for a time because the athlete doesn’t rest it as much as needed, though he doesn’t do anything to injure it further.

Is that three different potencies?

Or are these different results the possible acts of the same one potency (vis a vis healing)?

This is the kind of question that bugs me. I get that an acorn–to use the familiar example–has the potential to become an oak tree, but it also has the potential to become a squirrel’s dinner, or to be stomped to bits under the boot of a hiker. How many potencies does an acorn have?
 
First Actuality / Second Actuality. First involves capacity and the second involves operation. A first actuality is a second potentiality, what can be actualized from potentiality. And first potentiality is process or acquirement what is not a second potentiality, but this is contingent on a previous cause, or second actuality which, by necessity, terminates to a first mover (who is either pure act or a secondary cause able to move itself.)
Thanks. I had forgotten that.

I went back to Bernard Wuellner, SJ, Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy and got more of a low down on the two.
 
I went back to Bernard Wuellner, SJ, Dictionary of Scholastic Philosophy and got more of a low down on the two.
Oooo, now that’s another book I need to get…I spent several years in seminary but I can’t say it provided me with a firm grounding in scholasticism. What’s a good intermediate book on act and potency?

I’ve just re-read Edward Feser’s “The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism.” In addition to providing the promised refutation, Feser provides a primer on Aristotle and Aquinas. I’ve read some Gilson and much Copleston, but I get so excited about this material that I read it too fast. I want to pull back and focus on act and potency until I’m sure I understand them and work out from there. (I’m also working through Aristotle’s “Organon,” having just done a careful reading of two translations of his “Rhetoric.”)
 
Oooo, now that’s another book I need to get…I spent several years in seminary but I can’t say it provided me with a firm grounding in scholasticism. What’s a good intermediate book on act and potency?

I’ve just re-read Edward Feser’s “The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism.” In addition to providing the promised refutation, Feser provides a primer on Aristotle and Aquinas. I’ve read some Gilson and much Copleston, but I get so excited about this material that I read it too fast. I want to pull back and focus on act and potency until I’m sure I understand them and work out from there. (I’m also working through Aristotle’s “Organon,” having just done a careful reading of two translations of his “Rhetoric.”)
You gotta admit, Aristotle is “the man.”

Because metaphysics is so counter to the dominant intellectual trends today it takes time to let it sink in and connect with legitimate contemporary insights and cultural currents. Patience is very important.

The books you mentioned are all good to begin with. A primer that goes into some depth is W. Norris Clarke, SJ, The One and the Many, chap 7.

All the best in your philosophical search.
 
Thanks to all for contributing to this discussion.

I would like to consider the case of an athlete with an injury, say a sprained ankle.

The ankle has the potential to become healthy again, but also the potential to get worse (-say, he ‘gets back in the game’ too soon and aggravates the injury), or to remain so-so for a time because the athlete doesn’t rest it as much as needed, though he doesn’t do anything to injure it further.

Is that three different potencies?
Mark:

No. The second kind of potency can also be said of these two potentialities.
This is the kind of question that bugs me. I get that an acorn–to use the familiar example–has the potential to become an oak tree, but it also has the potential to become a squirrel’s dinner, or to be stomped to bits under the boot of a hiker. How many potencies does an acorn have?
That is correct. But ask yourself, Which outcome would one highly suspect, i.e., expect to occur? Matter is always in potency: to become other in some accidental way usually, but occasionally even in a substantial way. An acorn has as many potencies as there are forms which may inhere in it, some substantial and some accidental.

Examples: a young oak tree is in potency to become an adult oak tree (substantial and highly expected), however if involved in a fire, it has the potential to become ash (substantial but highly unexpected since the fire is the product of chance).

Expectation has a part in this, in terms of intelligibility. One will not expect an oak tree to uproot itself and fly to the moon on its own. So, that is more than likely not a form it is in potency to possess.

God bless,
jd
 
Examples: a young oak tree is in potency to become an adult oak tree (substantial and highly expected), however if involved in a fire, it has the potential to become ash (substantial but highly unexpected since the fire is the product of chance)
I get the point you’re making but I don"t know that the premise is true. I suspect most acorns don’t become oak trees and further, that there would be fewer full grown oaks if more acorns took root! (Think about it: the acorns fall down from the tree, which cannot move, so if many of them take root, they will starve the parent tree!) I suspect it"s the rare acorn that takes root, not the average one. (The average one may be eaten by squirrels.)

But I grant the point that if an acorn does take root, receives adequate nourishment and avoids catastrophe, it will grow into an oak tree. I understand that the full grown oak is the “final cause” of the acorn.
 
Mark:

Here is a paragraph from John of St. Thomas:

“Now that there is indeed an entity [primary matter] of such a potential and unformed character Aristotle deduced from two principles. First, from substantial generation itself, secondly from the fact that naturally nothing comes from nothing. And this second point is deduced from the first because if from nothing something would come to be, so that the whole substance of a thing would come from nothing, by this very fact there would not be generation but creation, and corruption would be annihilation. Hence, determinate dispositions would not be required for determinate generations, but it would be possible for a stone or a horse or any other thing to come to be in the same way, because if it comes from nothing there is no point to the dispositions which make it determined more to one thing rather than another. However, if it comes to be from something and what comes to be is a substance, from the fact that the generation is substantial it necessarily presupposes some subject capable of a new substantial existence and losing the existence which it had before because it is corrupted. Neither of these therefore it has of itself and consequently it is in potency to both of them.” - Cursus Philosophicus Thomisticus, Phil. Nat., I. P., Q. III, a. 1, ed. Reiser (Turin, 1930), II, 56.

This is the sense in which I meant “expectation.” Such expectation is not due to any desire or want in us, rather, it is due to determined privations in matters. St. Thomas and John of St. Thomas understood matter(s) to be of substance(s) such that any new generation that came from any substance would necessarily become a species of that substance, and not a species of some other substance, as though an expectational algorithm is operative. Thus, a horse reproduces as another horse and not as a stone. Primary matter is a privation of - and, therefore, in potency to be - an ultimate substantial Form, which it will be in possession of the moment it takes on the new configuration and is in Act.

One of the problems people often have with the concepts is that they can’t seem to dis-abuse themselves of the idea of potential as potential, i.e., stored, energy, for example, in a battery. This is not the meaning St. Thomas had in mind. His idea was like the above quote. Potential is used by him as determined possibility, rather than something possessed-in-a-container awaiting release.

It is very difficult to attempt an explanation of this very extensive subject in such a small space. 🤷 If you have more questions please ask them. I know there are better explanations than I’ve given - I know because I’ve read them in this thread! It is an interesting subject which I am trying to reconcile with other ideas that have been recently presented.

God bless,
jd
 
I get the point you’re making but I don"t know that the premise is true. I suspect most acorns don’t become oak trees and further, that there would be fewer full grown oaks if more acorns took root! (Think about it: the acorns fall down from the tree, which cannot move, so if many of them take root, they will starve the parent tree!) I suspect it"s the rare acorn that takes root, not the average one. (The average one may be eaten by squirrels.)
Mark:

You are quite correct (see my next post). I did not make myself very clear and that is my fault. There are two ideas operative here, too. One is as you suggest: most reproductive seed is consumed and its substance is thereby forever changed. The second idea is that of “determined expectation.” IOW, no acorn allowed to germinate will become a horse.
But I grant the point that if an acorn does take root, receives adequate nourishment and avoids catastrophe, it will grow into an oak tree. I understand that the full grown oak is the “final cause” of the acorn.
Exactly.

God bless,
jd
 
Near the end of philosopher Edward Feser’s book “The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism” he mentions the thought of philosopher of science Nancy Cartwright. Feser does not claim she is a believer or a fan of Aristotle, but rather that her descriptions of what physicists actually do and how they understand the world fit nicely with how Aristotle (and later Aquinas) saw things.

For example, when physicists stage an experiment, they are really trying to understand the powers of subatomic particles. (Read Feser for more details on this.) That word, “powers” stuck in my mind. In some ways I think it better than “potency” because we intuitively understand–even if we’re not physicists–then when a physicist conducts an experiment on, say, this atom, he assumes it has the same qualities as other atoms, and of course, that atoms had these powers when no one noticed. (Atoms are not thought to have evolved, are they? Isn’t the assumption that they have always had the properties they do now?)

I know that some early modern thinkers used “powers” (and then “faculties”)…

Anyway, this helps me understand potency. I think it helps that this is about something inanimate. (I have nothing against acorns and trees, but for Aristotle, rocks and riverbeds had potency too.)
 
Near the end of philosopher Edward Feser’s book “The Last Superstition: A Refutation of the New Atheism” he mentions the thought of philosopher of science Nancy Cartwright. Feser does not claim she is a believer or a fan of Aristotle, but rather that her descriptions of what physicists actually do and how they understand the world fit nicely with how Aristotle (and later Aquinas) saw things.

For example, when physicists stage an experiment, they are really trying to understand the powers of subatomic particles. (Read Feser for more details on this.) That word, “powers” stuck in my mind. In some ways I think it better than “potency” because we intuitively understand–even if we’re not physicists–then when a physicist conducts an experiment on, say, this atom, he assumes it has the same qualities as other atoms, and of course, that atoms had these powers when no one noticed. (Atoms are not thought to have evolved, are they? Isn’t the assumption that they have always had the properties they do now?)

I know that some early modern thinkers used “powers” (and then “faculties”)…

Anyway, this helps me understand potency. I think it helps that this is about something inanimate. (I have nothing against acorns and trees, but for Aristotle, rocks and riverbeds had potency too.)
Mark:

Well, but that still intellectualizes potency as though it is something in storage contained in or by the subject itself. Aquinas means it more as possibility, except that he makes it stronger making it "possibility with a relatively inexorable tendency to one particular outcome, rather than another."

What you say about Aristotle is correct, to some degree. But it must be remembered what the ultimate intent is. It is to describe mobile being and motion. Rocks deteriorate, and riverbeds change due to water’s effects. For example, a rock subjected to moving water for a period of time, will become smoother than it was.

There are two kinds of motion immediate to us: the first is the motion of self-mobile, or composite, beings, such as a cat or a dog. This is know as local motion. The second is the motion of non-self-mobile beings, such as our stone.

Here are a few paragraphs from Aristotle’s Physics:

"Our first presupposition must be that in nature nothing acts on, or is acted on by, any other thing at random, nor may anything come from anything else, unless we mean that it does so in virtue of a concomitant attribute. For how could white' come from musical,’ unless musical' happened to be an attribute of the not-white or of black? No, white’ comes from not-white' and not from any not-white,’ but from black or some intermediate color. Similarly, musical' comes to be from not-musical,’ but not from any thing other than musical, but from `unmusical’ or any intermediate state there may be.

"Nor again do things pass into the first chance thing; white' does not pass into musical’ (except, it may be, in virtue of a concomitant attribute), but into not-white' and not into any chance thing which is not white, but into black or an intermediate color; musical’ passes into not-musical' and not into any chance thing other than musical, but into unmusical’ or any intermediate state there may be.

"The same holds of other things also: even things which are not simple but complex follow the same principle, but the opposite state has not received a name, so we fail to notice the fact. What is in tune into untunedness and not into any untunedness, but into the corresponding opposite. It does not matter whether we take attunement, order, or composition for our illustration; the principle is obviously the same in all, and in fact applies equally to the production of a house, a statue, or any other complex. A house comes from certain things in a certain state of separation instead of conjunction, a statue (or any other thing that has been shaped) from shapelessness each of these objects being partly order and partly composition.

“If then this is true, everything that comes to be or passes away comes from, or passes into, its contrary or an intermediate state. But the intermediates are derived from the contraries colors, for instance, from black and white. Everything, therefore, that comes to be by a natural process is either a contrary or a product of contraries.”

God bless,
jd
 
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