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Just wanted to get a feel for peoples opinions on Action Movies. I enjoy them and I’ll have to admit that some of them are pretty graphic. I recently watched one called “Shooter”. I thought it was good. But do you suppose it’s sinful to watch them?🤷

Just wanted to get your view.

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Just wanted to get a feel for peoples opinions on Action Movies. I enjoy them and I’ll have to admit that some of them are pretty graphic. I recently watched one called “Shooter”. I thought it was good. But do you suppose it’s sinful to watch them?🤷

Just wanted to get your view.

Thanks
It is NOT sinful.
 
Since no one is actually harmed in action movies, no.

They can be sinful if they desensitize you to evil actions, but as long as you maintain a strong distinction between the real and the imaginary, they aren’t sinful.
 
I don’t think so. I’ve read the book that ‘Shooter’ was based on, and it was great. Haven’t seen the movie yet, though.

In Christ,
Rand
 
I guess it could be sinful if there was really immoral material (graphic sex or something like that), but in itself, the action movie genre isn’t more or less sinful than any other genre.
 
I would agree that they are mostly harmless. Obviously that could vary based on other elements like nudity, pushing an evil agenda, or respect for life in general.

I have to say that any and all violence that we see is going to hurt us a little bit. But life in general hurts us far more than a little bit, and some of this pain is meant to strengthen us against more difficult things to come. I deleted a whole lot of what I was going to say, because it boils down to this: even being desensitized can be a neutral thing. If we’re being robbed, our family is being terrorized, or we end up as soldiers under fire, being less sensitive could be a good thing, and could enable us to react boldly rather than freeze up. Just keep a healthy respect for life in general.
 
You are going to get responses from both sides on this one. Jimmy Akin would say that unless the content is a temptation to you, watching most movies isn’t a sin. I think, though, that some consideration has to be given to the subject matter. I sometimes ask myself (because I enjoy action movies, too), Can I justify letting this much violence, blood, murder, revenge … vice into my home via my television, just because it’s entertaining? Lately I’ve been veering toward what feels like the “safe side” here, because I think that while I’m not personally tempted to go out and commit murder when I watch Law & Order, I am obligated to hold human life in high value, and by being entertained by the destroying of human life (even though it is fiction) I am somehow devaluing that life in my own mind.

It’s a line everyone must draw – or not draw – for himself, in the absence of clear Church teaching (if, in fact, there is an absence). I ask this, though: if content doesn’t matter at all so long as we are not tempted to sin, is it permissible to view pornography for “entertainment” purposes if it does not arouse us? What about blasphemy? If we don’t draw a line somewhere, then anything is acceptable. And if we do draw a line, on what basis do we draw it?
 
It is my recollection that the National legion of Decency, which existed in the mid 20th century often gave movies a “c” or condemned rating for not just sexual content, but excessive violence. A “c” rating meant it was not suitable viewing for anyone. One of the guiding principles was that the use of excessive violence to solve ones problems was never acceptable. Todays graphic depictions of shootings, stabbings etc. would not have been tolerated. The Legion was a creature of the Catholic Bishops and was respected by many many Catholics who took and annual promise at a Sunday Mass to follow its guidelines. Yeah, I enjoy violent movies too. Times do change.
 
<<<Can I justify letting this much violence, blood, murder, revenge … vice into my home via my television, just because it’s entertaining? Lately I’ve been veering toward what feels like the “safe side” here, because I think that while I’m not personally tempted to go out and commit murder when I watch Law & Order, I am obligated to hold human life in high value, and by being entertained by the destroying of human life (even though it is fiction) I am somehow devaluing that life in my own mind.>>>

I’m a big fan of horror movies, but this thought has been passing through my mind sometimes lately too. I know that I would never harm another human being, especially not because I saw it in a movie, but what does this say about all of us? And am I helping us as a people be better or be sicker because I’m supporting it? But then we get into censorship, and I am not a fan of that in the least, so it’s a very conflicted thing for me.

When it comes to TV shows, I try gauge whether they are positive to faith or neutral to it. The results might raise a few eyebrows. For example, the X-Files is a crime drama and talks alot of the paranormal, but Agent Scully is a Catholic and approaches the cases with a sort of skeptical morality. Based on quotes about faith that make you just kinda gasp like “science only tell us how, it doesn’t tell us why”, I consider it a faith positive show.

Then there’s another favorite of mine, Boston Legal. There is a little bit of questionable content, but it also makes me think about other people’s plights and for the most part the cases that are won fall on the side of decency to one’s fellow man. So I deem that show to be neutral. There has to be a redeeming factor, usually coming down to inspiring me to be a better person or uplifting my spirits.

Of course, as I said, I’m vehemetly anti-censorship, so I do think it’s up to each of us to make that decision for ourselves. Unfortunetly to live in a free society we have to put up with people like Howard Stern and Larry Flynt. However, I find that a small price to pay to live in a country where parts of the newspaper aren’t blacked out.
 
I love horror movies, and action ones also. My favorites are the ones who mock themselves, such as Tremors or Shawn of the Dead. You always get the idea that the actors are winking at you before some extremely ludicrous scene. I find them funny, because I know when the director says “stop” or “cut” or whatever they say, everyone gets up, and heads for wardrobe.

I am very bothered at some of the nightly news that show accidents going bad, cop chase scenes, or even worse, people getting shot to death, even if the target is off camera. That disturbs me, because I know that real people are being hurt.

All that said, I always wondered at the Catholic movie reviews. When a film gets an “O” for being morally offensive, does that mean watching it is a sin?
 
Shaun of the Dead, I liked it until I thought that if the authorities developed a cure for the zombies, then beating them to death is murder. Also going out of your way to run them over in a Jaguar is killing something not deserving of death cause it is no threat at that point.

If we are to make an account of all idle words on the day of judgment, then these movies are two hours of which we will have to make an account.🍿
 
I agree with surf(name removed by moderator)ure… I especially liked this part of what he said:
I am obligated to hold human life in high value, and by being entertained by the destroying of human life (even though it is fiction) I am somehow devaluing that life in my own mind.
That’s really the key. Jimmy Akin’s opinion, I think, goes too far in one direction, but the basis of it is good. He says (basically; I don’t remember to the letter) that violence and other material that may be in a film can fall into one of three basic categories: it can be gratuituous, it can be neutral, or it can be good. What category they fall into depends a lot on the story being told.

So for example, in films about the book of Exodus, there is violence, and were a modern treatment of it be made, there may be some degree of graphic violence. In this case, the violence would probably be good, because it is intricate to the true story being told - and indeed not any true story, but a true story directly pertaining to salvation history. Another example may be a story in which a man, in a struggle against evil, uses violence in a reasonable manner to defeat evil. More on this idea in a moment.

What about neutral violence? Consider a film about a character who has been shaped in part by, for example, witnessing spousal abuse as a child. If this violence were depicted - without going overboard, of course - as simply an intricate part of the story, it could be neutral. The reality is that bad things happen to people, and authentic art should relate to this reality. Stories that are true to the reality of our humanity will sometimes depict the violence and other evils that exist in this reality. A loose analogy here may be to Christ’s parables, which sometimes contained violence, and yet (at least in some cases) did not stray from the way some people really behave sometimes.

Then there is gratuitous violence, sex, etc… This is violence/sex/whatever that exists for no reason other than to be entertaining, or that is either good or neutral, and yet is depicted too realistically, or to a degree that is unnecessary. For example, I watched a recently produced movie about the life of St. Paul (which I thought was, on the whole, very good… it was directed by Roger Young, if any are curious) which contained a very, very brief “sex scene.” In fact it can’t even be called that, in actuality. All it was, was a shot of a Jewish priest (who in the film is St. Paul’s friend and later enemy) removing his wife’s top on their wedding night (making visible a breast) and then hugging her, indicating that they were about to consumate their marriage. Now in some of the reviews I read after watching the film, people were upset with this scene, and in particular the brief upper nudity. I personally thought it was fine for various reasons, and in fact the scene itself was certainly* important to the story at that point… we needed to know that they consumated their marriage, and not just assuming it, given it was their wedding night… it was important at that time that it was really pointed out to the audience, and I thought the way the scene was done (brief nudity and all) made the point even stronger about what happened in the next scene. In any case, the point is that that was enough. Had the scene gone on to be one of those “backs, legs, and hands” sex scenes that are put into a lot of films (and even TV these days 😦 ), that would have been gratuitous… dwelling too long on the sex and for no real reason.

Now to try to tie this together. Life - real life - is a struggle between good and evil: between God and Satan: between sin and Grace. This is not only a subject based on reality, but a good subject to address in entertainment, both because it is based on a deep metaphysical reality and because it is something we can all be inspired about. Therefore, a movie like Star Wars, where there is an evil and a good and the good struggles to defeat the evil, can be good, and can make good use of violence if that violence is not overdone and if that violence serves the story rather than makes the story.

A movie made just to have a bunch of explosions and fights and whatnot, I do think, is a problem, for precisely the reason surf(name removed by moderator)ure said: human life is sacred, and we ought not be entertained by the destruction or abuse of it. If we are entertained by a film depicting it - in a reasonable manner - as a part of a greater story, there’s nothing wrong with that… that’s reality. However, if a film is made as a showcase for entertaining explosions and violence, or sex, or whatever, that’s a problem. That fails to respect the dignity of the human person, as it derives entertainment purely from attacks on that dignity.

Surf(name removed by moderator)ure said,
if content doesn’t matter at all so long as we are not tempted to sin, is it permissible to view pornography for “entertainment” purposes if it does not arouse us?
I think that’s a good question for reflection, because we have to figure out what the difference is between pornography and a good film with some nudity or sexuality in it. The difference is that in pornography, nudity and sexuality are A) not serving a story, but themselves the reason for being of the film, and B) depicted at extreme length and with much gaphicness. Another film with nudity or sexuality where those things are there both A) to serve the story and B) depicted reasonably, with restraint, and not to excess is not pornography, and may be a very morally good film. Consider this, and think about violence.

God bless!*
 
You are going to get responses from both sides on this one. Jimmy Akin would say that unless the content is a temptation to you, watching most movies isn’t a sin. I think, though, that some consideration has to be given to the subject matter.
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I love horror movies, and action ones also. My favorites are the ones who mock themselves, such as Tremors or Shawn of the Dead. You always get the idea that the actors are winking at you before some extremely ludicrous scene. I find them funny, because I know when the director says “stop” or “cut” or whatever they say, everyone gets up, and heads for wardrobe.
Shawn of the Dead! What a great, tongue-in-cheek movie. LOL

I find interesting what some people consider “bad” in movies and what others don’t. Seems like Pornography is universally rejected amongst Christians, but “near” porn is too. However, it’s interesting to me that some of the same people who reject graphic sex abhoor graphic violence or language and vice-versa.

That’s not to condemn or disagree with one position or the other, just to make a note of it. Personally, I feel that when violence or language serves the plot, it’s OK. To me that means I’d rather see a suggestion of a less-graphic sexual encounter or a less-graphic killing or murder scene then what they feel compelled to show nowadays. I’m a smart adult…I can figure out when two people go into a bedroom groping and kissing and leaving a trail of clothes…well, I assume they’re not going to discuss global warming.

Same with violence…I like smarter movies that don’t show the blood spattering; when someone gets shot in the head or chest, and then lays there motionless with their eyes open…I can figure out that they’re pretty much dead. I don’t need to nor do I like to see the back of their head blown open or their guts hanging out.

Language too…I expect Tony Soprano to be liberal with the “f” words and such; he’s a bad guy. Bad guys cuss. But I saw what would have been an otherwise good movie the other day on the Independant film channel…sort of about average people…but it was laced with the “f” word, used as a noun, verb, adjective and pronoun. Quite unnecessary to serve the plot or the character development.

Anyway, Action movies…when they cause one to dwell on sinful behavior or to emulate it…best to be discerning on what movies one watches.
 
I personally really like to watch action movies. The only problem I have is when there’s blasphemy or the violence just serves no purpose. And some of it really is unnecessary. The violence has to serve a purpose or at least move the story along.

For example: I really, really wanted to see the action movie, “Wanted” with Angelina Jolie. I was very disappointed. There were sex scenes that were unnecessary and just dumb. And then there was the gratuitous violence. I realize that this was an assassin movie, but I’ve seen others along the same vein that weren’t this way.

I just remember seeing it in the theater like this: :eek:

For me, movies like that are personally too graphic to stomach. The previews didn’t seem that graphic (for obvious reasons), so I was really surprised.

Anyway, just me…
 
I personally really like to watch action movies. The only problem I have is when there’s blasphemy or the violence just serves no purpose. And some of it really is unnecessary. The violence has to serve a purpose or at least move the story along.

For example: I really, really wanted to see the action movie, “Wanted” with Angelina Jolie. I was very disappointed. There were sex scenes that were unnecessary and just dumb. And then there was the gratuitous violence. I realize that this was an assassin movie, but I’ve seen others along the same vein that weren’t this way.
Try to find a movie nowadays with Jolie that doesn’t have a sex scene in it. 😃
 
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Try to find a movie nowadays with Jolie that doesn’t have a sex scene in it. 😃

It’s comical how sex is thrown in action movies nowadays…a guy and girl are being chased by bad guys…and still manage time for…well, you know.

I like your characterization, “just dumb”. 👍
Yeah, the sad part it wasn’t her (just kidding). It was a dumb blonde who was living with the main character, but sleeping with his best friend. The thing about it is that they could’ve just had the noises (not that I want that), or they could have cut the shot to where they just showed their faces, etc. I’d rather do without those things, but if they are going to include them in action movies, they should be prudent about it.

I just found many parts of the movie to be disturbing. One of the most disturbing I’ve seen in years. That was just my personal experience with it. I won’t go into the details here.
 
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