Active Bible or Passive Bible?

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Some years ago, I visited my relatives in a town in central Pennsylvania. One of the churches in town advertised in their bulletin that a bible class is held on Saturdays at 5:30 PM. I decided to attend the class. At 5:30, I met the priest who was teaching the class. The priest informed me, that since I was the only one to come to class, the class was canceled and I was invited to go to bingo across the hall. Bingo had over 200 participants.

Several years later, I joined a Catholic jail ministry group that was ministering in a large jail in Virginia. It was composed of six senior citizen cradle-Catholic men. They went from cell to cell and held hands with the Catholic inmates, said the Hail Mary prayer, and encouraged the inmates to come to Sunday mass in the jail. When I asked them if they were reading the bible with the Catholic inmates, they responded that only priests and deacons knew the bible well enough to read and teach the inmates. Several weeks later, I joined the Protestant volunteers. For the next continuous four years, I read and taught the bible, in groups and in one-to-one, to any inmates who would come. During that time, I received emails from the Catholic men warning me that I was conspiring with heretics. One email was 8 pages long and explained how the hormones of Henry VIII had created the heretic Anglican Church. I responded, by email, that I was not worried since my hormones were under control.

Recently, I had a conversation with a priest in my area concerning the bible. The priest responded that the Catholic Church reads three passages from the bible every Sunday to its parishioners, and that is sufficient. But is it sufficient?

What is really going on here? Is passive learning just as good, or better, than active learning? It is one thing for parishioners to passively listen to the bible being read to them. It is another thing for parishioners to actively sit with one another, read the bible, discuss what the verses meant at the time that they were written, and what the verses mean now in our everyday lives.

Dion, of the 50’s rock and roll group called Dion and the Belmonts, appeared on EWTN a year ago. He stated that the time that he spent in Protestant church was productive in that he learned to “connect the bible verse dots”. He learned the “dots” in Catholic Church where each Sunday reading constituted a dot. But it was in Protestant bible class that he learned to connect the dots.

Is it past time for the bishops in the United States to require that each church in their diocese have at least one bible class operating nine months of the year? Is it fair to say that bingo is not a substitute for the bible?

What do you say?
 
Sounds like the priest in Pennsylvania and these jail ministers where ignorant of what Holy Mother Church teaches regarding studying scripture. Unfortunately there are many older Catholics who have been misinformed in this regard. Many parishes and dioceses DO encourage and provide Bible study, and many Catholic publishing companies market some excellent studies. (Scott Hahn’s and Jeff Cavins’, to name two examples)

Check the Catechism. Chapter 2, Article 3 should help clear this up for you.
 
Some years ago, I visited my relatives in a town in central Pennsylvania. One of the churches in town advertised in their bulletin that a bible class is held on Saturdays at 5:30 PM. I decided to attend the class. At 5:30, I met the priest who was teaching the class. The priest informed me, that since I was the only one to come to class, the class was canceled and I was invited to go to bingo across the hall. Bingo had over 200 participants.

Several years later, I joined a Catholic jail ministry group that was ministering in a large jail in Virginia. It was composed of six senior citizen cradle-Catholic men. They went from cell to cell and held hands with the Catholic inmates, said the Hail Mary prayer, and encouraged the inmates to come to Sunday mass in the jail. When I asked them if they were reading the bible with the Catholic inmates, they responded that only priests and deacons knew the bible well enough to read and teach the inmates. Several weeks later, I joined the Protestant volunteers. For the next continuous four years, I read and taught the bible, in groups and in one-to-one, to any inmates who would come. During that time, I received emails from the Catholic men warning me that I was conspiring with heretics. One email was 8 pages long and explained how the hormones of Henry VIII had created the heretic Anglican Church. I responded, by email, that I was not worried since my hormones were under control.

Recently, I had a conversation with a priest in my area concerning the bible. The priest responded that the Catholic Church reads three passages from the bible every Sunday to its parishioners, and that is sufficient. But is it sufficient?

What is really going on here? Is passive learning just as good, or better, than active learning? It is one thing for parishioners to passively listen to the bible being read to them. It is another thing for parishioners to actively sit with one another, read the bible, discuss what the verses meant at the time that they were written, and what the verses mean now in our everyday lives.

Dion, of the 50’s rock and roll group called Dion and the Belmonts, appeared on EWTN a year ago. He stated that the time that he spent in Protestant church was productive in that he learned to “connect the bible verse dots”. He learned the “dots” in Catholic Church where each Sunday reading constituted a dot. But it was in Protestant bible class that he learned to connect the dots.

Is it past time for the bishops in the United States to require that each church in their diocese have at least one bible class operating nine months of the year? Is it fair to say that bingo is not a substitute for the bible?

What do you say?
That is awesome that you do what you do in the Prison ministry.

I would agree with the other poster that those folks in PA are misinformed and refuse to move beyond being misinformed.
 
I know the Church has always officially encouraged bible study. *.

I expect 4 people out of a parish of 1000 families. I don’t know why there is not more, but the offer stands. I have had as many as 16. It’s usually the same all the time, but at Christmastime, many of the retired people that come are off visiting kids.

In the bible I received in the 7th grade [circa 1965] the first page was spent explaining the indulgences received by reading, praying, and studying the bible.*
 
My great-grandfather’s bible [in English] from the late 19th century has the translation of a letter from Pope Pius VI [April 1778] to the most reverend Anthony Martini, archbishop of Florence, thanking him for his translation of the bible into Italian. He stresses the importance of getting the laity to read the bible more.
 
It is a really great work of mercy to visit the imprisoned. Be thankful that you have been given the strength to do so.

I hesitate to write the following but I am compelled.

Regarding Scripture study, we are Catholics we pray the verses. We do not teach ourselves the Word. Neither is the Liturgy didactic. Rather we internalise Scripture through the prayer of the Church. The most effective way I have found to let Her do this for me is to recite the Hours.

I have taken on the ‘Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary’ which is in Latin and English side-by-side. I sometimes make attempt to examine portions of the Gospel accounts particularly. The Gospel accounts are enormously deep. And, there are different ways to approach Them. I approach it through the Vulgate, and read the various English translations alongside it. In my experience utilising the Vulgate and the Hours in this way is particularly revealing.

I find myself often exhausted emotionally and intellectually by just a few short lines. But, by allowing myself to worked-over I find I have a grown and the result is greater ability to keep things and ponder them in my heart.

I can never come across the word either by hearing or sight, ‘behold’ (ecce) without suddenly finding myself at the holy Sacrifice of the Mass. And, yet I cannot help by consider other occurences of the same ‘behold’…

‘Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity: Like the precious ointment on the head, that ran down upon the beard, the beard of Aaron, which ran down to the skirt of his garment: As the dew of Hermon, which descends upon mount Sion. For there the Lord has commanded blessing, and life for evermore.’ (Psalm 133)

With this I cannot help but think of the Crucifixion, the water and blood of Christ’s sacred side pouring out and co-mingling with tears of the Woman of Sion, His Blessed Mother Mary.
 
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