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What wouldve happened if only Eve ate the forbidden fruit and Adam said no to eating it?
Would Eve have died and God created another women?
Would Eve have died and God created another women?
The moral of the story is that Adam’s first mistake was listening to his wife (lol).What wouldve happened if only Eve ate the forbidden fruit and Adam said no to eating it?
Would Eve have died and God created another women?
What’s the point in speculating about something that did not happen??What wouldve happened if only Eve ate the forbidden fruit and Adam said no to eating it?
Would Eve have died and God created another women?
Sorry, that is incorrect: “For Adam, the first man, was a type of him who was to come, Christ the Lord.”However, on a very sad note, the Vatican website now teaches us that there was never an Adam and Eve
This is a misinterpretation of the article. The article (written by an evolutionary biologist, not any member of the magisterium) does not deny an Adam or an Eve.The Vatican now embraces that there was no apple, no Adam, no Eve, no serpent, etc.
Likewise…I do not see anything in the above quotes that says there was no Adam and Eve.Sorry, that is incorrect: "For Adam, the first man, was a type of him who was to come, Christ the Lord."This is a misinterpretation of the article. The article (written by an evolutionary biologist, not any member of the magisterium) does not deny an Adam or an Eve.
No kidding, every Bible believing Catholic knows that, but why does the Vatican website say differently. God fearing Catholics don’t think he was a monkey.Sorry, that is incorrect: "For Adam, the first man, was a type of him who was to come, Christ the Lord.
This is what that Vatican website says: "“For Adam, the first man, was a type of him who was to come, Christ the Lord.”No kidding, every Bible believing Catholic knows that, but why does the Vatican website say differently. God fearing Catholics don’t think he was a monkey.
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The Vatican website does not say differently…that previous post was a quote from the Vatican website. No where does it say that Adam was a monkey.No kidding, every Bible believing Catholic knows that, but why does the Vatican website say differently. God fearing Catholics don’t think he was a monkey.
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No Fall. Adam is the exclusive head of the human family with particular responsibilities (Gen. 2:15) beyond that of his mate. It is from Adam’s sin that Our Lord as the New Adam comes to redeem us. Adam’s choice to join his wife in sin broke the final link in the Covenant between humanity and God. The Son of God mirrors the type of Adam; as the New Adam, He is the priest of the New Covenant. Adam in his human perfection could have made an acceptable sacrifice for his wife to be admitted back into friendship with God.What wouldve happened if only Eve ate the forbidden fruit and Adam said no to eating it?
If Adam had sacrificed his life, then with whom would have Eve mated?No Fall. Adam is the exclusive head of the human family with particular responsibilities (Gen. 2:15) beyond that of his mate. It is from Adam’s sin that Our Lord as the New Adam comes to redeem us. Adam’s choice to join his wife in sin broke the final link in the Covenant between humanity and God. The Son of God mirrors the type of Adam; as the New Adam, He is the priest of the New Covenant. Adam in his human perfection could have made an acceptable sacrifice for his wife to be admitted back into friendship with God.
Why would he have had to sacrifice his life? He may have just had to discipline his wife appropriately and all would have been well. Adam was given dominion. We see this with him naming all the animals and even his wife.If Adam had sacrificed his life, then with whom would have Eve mated?
Sorry about that, re-read and found it. Still, the article on the Vatican website deviates from the Bible:This is what that Vatican website says: "“For Adam, the first man, was a type of him who was to come, Christ the Lord.”
Perhaps Genesis was never supposed to be a literal history.Sorry about that, re-read and found it. Still, the article on the Vatican website deviates from the Bible:
“While the story of human origins is complex and subject to revision, physical anthropology and molecular biology combine to make a convincing case for the origin of the human species in Africa about 150,000 years ago in a humanoid population of common genetic lineage.”
What happened to God creating Adam from dust and Eve from Adam’s rib. Here we have a picture being painted of Adam and Eve as some kind of humaniods decending from apes.
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Notice that the quote doesn’t say that this scientific picture of human origins is “absolutely certain and definitive”, but that it “convincing” and yet “subject to revision”.Sorry about that, re-read and found it. Still, the article on the Vatican website deviates from the Bible:
“While the story of human origins is complex and subject to revision, physical anthropology and molecular biology combine to make a convincing case for the origin of the human species in Africa about 150,000 years ago in a humanoid population of common genetic lineage.”
What happened to God creating Adam from dust and Eve from Adam’s rib. Here we have a picture being painted of Adam and Eve as some kind of humaniods decending from apes.
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John Paul II makes several points: (1) Evolution explains a lot of what we see in the biological world, so much so that evolution can no longer be considered a “guess”, but a well-developed, well-supported explanation of how life’s diversity came about; (2) this does not mean that all currently accepted ideas associated with evolution are necessarily totally correct; but (3) even if evolutionary theory is broadly accurate, that would not be inconsistent with Catholic teaching – as long as evolutionary theory does not explicitly deny the idea that man’s spiritual soul was directly created by God; and (4) many scientists interpret evolution to mean that the spiritual soul evolved from the mind of lower life forms, but that interpretation of evolution is neither obvious from the evidence, nor consistent with Catholic teaching.Pius XII stressed this essential point: If the human body take its origin from pre-existent living matter, the spiritual soul is immediately created by God (“animas enim a Deo immediate creari catholica fides nos retinere iubei”;“Humani Generis,” 36). Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person.
"Adam and Eve: Real PeopleNotice that the quote doesn’t say that this scientific picture of human origins is “absolutely certain and definitive”, but that it “convincing” and yet “subject to revision”.
Secondly, both John Paul II and Pius XII stressed that evolution and Catholicism are not incompatible, as long as certain conditions are met. Here is John Paul II speaking, in 1996, on this issue, referring to Pius XII’s writings on this issue as well:
John Paul II makes several points: (1) Evolution explains a lot of what we see in the biological world, so much so that evolution can no longer be considered a “guess”, but a well-developed, well-supported explanation of how life’s diversity came about; (2) this does not mean that all currently accepted ideas associated with evolution are necessarily totally correct; but (3) even if evolutionary theory is broadly accurate, that would not be inconsistent with Catholic teaching – as long as evolutionary theory does not explicitly deny the idea that man’s spiritual soul was directly created by God; and (4) many scientists interpret evolution to mean that the spiritual soul evolved from the mind of lower life forms, but that interpretation of evolution is neither obvious from the evidence, nor consistent with Catholic teaching.
In short, evolution of the physical body is not denied by the Church. What is denied, is the evolution of the spiritual soul. Genesis is not to be read, and was never meant to be read, in a totally literalistic fashion.
And see the phrase in bold."Adam and Eve: Real People
The Catechism states, “The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents” (CCC 390)."
catholic.com/library/Adam_Eve_and_Evolution.asp
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Interesting. One of the most influential Catholic Theologians, Saint Augustine (Bishop of Hippo) argued that original sin had its beginning in sexual desire, and that the Eden account should be taken both literally and symbolically.And see the phrase in bold.
rotfl!eve would have noticed that she was indecent and spent the rest of her life shopping for clothes, while adam would have continued to walk around the house naked, scratching obnoxiously, and puzzled that eve had not yet made lunch. Also wondering how to approach god about making a few other women, similar, but different from eve.
In short, pretty much the same outcome. We still get born into sin and need baptizing.
I’m glad Augustine is not infallible.Interesting. One of the most influential Catholic Theologians, Saint Augustine (Bishop of Hippo) argued that original sin had its beginning in sexual desire, and that the Eden account should be taken both literally and symbolically.
thesinofadamandeve-augustine.blogspot.com
suite101.com/content/augustine-and-original-sin-a171404
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