Adam and Eve

[IamOdd4God]

To start off, everything aside, I find this concept extremely hard to believe and accept.
For one, im more of an evolution person, and i would rather put my beliefs with science over religion any day,

In order to make posts on these boards you have to sign up, and then confirm your email address to activate your account. That is an aweful lot of effort taken to not have any intentions.

So I must ask; what are your intentions here? I mean, if you choose to believe in science over religion then why did you sign up for a “RELIGIOUS” themed message board? Is it your intention to change the beliefs of people here or are you searching for answers to unanswered questions you may have?

In the name of Jesus,

Ken

 

[buffalo]

Hi
If every thing in Genesis is taken literal or physical, problems crop up. Now, I think there is hardly an educated person who believes that Earth is flat and is not round. Privately everybody for sure believes that Earth is round, so if some reason-blind still thinks that it is not round and tries to give arguments from OTBible or NTBible, he is simply wrong and has not understood the Bible correctly.

In the same way, now everybody educated on this Earth knows that life, botanical, animal and human got evolved under different stages in billions of years, it is an everyday knowledge. If a horse or fish could evolve, why not man.

OTBible clearly states that Adam was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH talked directly, if one reads it one would understand it for sure; otherwise one should tell from OTBible as to the name of the person with whom God had a conversation directly, naturally that person must be one who was before Adam, as we find it for sure that God had a conversation with Adam.

God’s Word of revelation is to increase the wisdom of the human beings, not to make human beings reason-blind.

Thanks

Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, and there were human beings men/woman before Adam and Eve having body and soul like Adam.

Start here:

The Myth of the Flat Earth

 

[IamOdd4God]

Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, and there were human beings men/woman before Adam and Eve having body and soul like Adam.

Here is what the Bible says…

Genesis 1:1-2 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

In the “BEGINNING” God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was “VOID” (empty). This means that there was nothing on the earth except water. So there was no plants, no animals, and NO MAN.

Now, when you continue reading the recorded events of the creation in the Bible (Genesis 1:1-31) you read that the creation of man took place on the sixth day of creation. Up to this point there were “NO” humans; none, nada, zip, zilch. So this man God created was indeed the “FIRST” human being.

Now was this first human being Adam? Or was Adam later created? Let’s see what the Bible says…

Genesis 2:4-8 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

The above passages of Scripture is clearly a summary of the creation. Note what the Scripture says: “These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created.” Also note that the Scripture tells us that “there was not a man to till the ground.” Therefore, the man who God has formed of the dust of the ground is the “FIRST” man created.

Now notice where God placed this man he created; God placed him in the garden He planted in Eden, which is reaffirmed in the following passage of Scripture…

Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

Again, God took the first man He created, and placed him in the garden in Eden. Now look what the Scriptures tell us about this man God created, and placed in the garden in Eden…

**Genesis 2:16-19 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. **

…this “FIRST” man who God had formed from the dust of the ground, and put into the garden in Eden is called “ADAM” and this is reaffirmed in the following passages of Scripture…

Genesis 5:1-2 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

…The Scriptures tells us that in the day God created man, He made them in His likeness, which is described in Genesis 1:26. The Scripture tells us that God created both male and female, and called their name “ADAM” in the day they were created.

You say that Adam was not the first man created, but the Scriptures tells otherwise. As it is written, “Let God be true, and every man a liar.”

In the name of Jesus,

Ken

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi
The man before Adam though was breathing like a horse was breathing or a dove was breathing; man’s distinction over other animates was that he was destined to receive word of God, when that stage came that was a special kind of breathing he received revelation or word of GodAllahYHWH which set new goals of progress for him that were not known to other animals.

God taught man to talk that is breathing new life to man that has been mentioned in the Genesis, to express his emotions and to store knowledge and convey it to future generations, this quality is breathing new life to Adam, previously he was like a moving animal only. Could one ever think such a primitive man could invent any languages? A little rational reasoning is required to get these things from Genesis, never mind if the Clergy could not discern these things from the Book. God sent the Book for everybody, clergy has no exclusive rights on the Book, more than an ordinary men, specially if they cannot understand the Book and the every day sensible things.

The clergy could think otherwise, no compulsion, and they are free to submit their arguments, in fact I am not addressing them, I address those ordinary persons who are taught otherwise in the schools, colleges and Universities, they become confused on such issues and say good-bye to religion, no matter what religion they have Catholics, Protestants, Muslims etc, etc.

We should bring them back to religions, and not hamper the progress of the human mind and knowledge. With revelation on Adam a new chapter of human progress and civilizathion started. Praise be to God who created this Universe and set Adam in a garden, very much on this very beautiful earth Earth.
Thanks

Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, and there were human beings men/woman before Adam and Eve having body and soul like Adam.

 

[paarsurrey]

You say that Adam was not the first man created, but the Scriptures tells otherwise.

Hi
I gave my argument that OTBible mentions that Adam was the first man with whom GodAllahYHWH had a conversation.

Please read Genesis and tell me solemnly;Is it not correct that God talked with Adam and not with anyone before him?

If you say, no, then you shall have to provide name of the person with whom God talked for the first time.

I think you understand now.

If you insist me to provide literal words to the affect that Adam was not the first man created from the OTBible.

Then you shall have to provid literal words from the Genesis that Adam was the first man created.

I know you cannot provide, as it is just your conjecture, implication, assumption and inference from the Genesis,not that the Scriptures tells us so literally as you say .

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi
The man before Adam though was breathing like a horse was breathing or a dove was breathing; man’s distinction over other animates was that he was destined to receive word of God, when that stage came that was a special kind of breathing he received revelation or word of GodAllahYHWH which set new goals of progress for him that were not known to other animals.

God taught man to talk that is breathing new life to man that has been mentioned in the Genesis, to express his emotions and to store knowledge and convey it to future generations, this quality is breathing new life to Adam, previously he was like a moving animal only. Could one ever think such a primitive man could invent any languages? A little rational reasoning is required to get these things from Genesis, never mind if the Clergy could not discern these things from the Book. God sent the Book for everybody, clergy has no exclusive rights on the Book, more than an ordinary men, specially if they cannot understand the Book and the every day sensible things.
Thanks

Adam was not the first human being, he was the first person with whom GodAllahYHWH had a direct conversation, and there were human beings men/woman before Adam and Eve having body and soul like Adam.