Adam was born how many years ago?

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Yes, there is…now.
Do you also think that every organism is transitional? which means in your color diagram, organisms of all time are neither blue nor purple, neither orange nor red.
And if color represents a species, those that are neither blue nor purple, are they a species? what species are they, blue or purple?
 
I can only explain this basic concept to you so many times.
Speciaition is NOT transitive.
A has offspring B, B has offspring C.
This does NOT mean A and C are the same species.

This is evolution 101. You simply refuse to understand the basic principles.
Your first and second examples failed and after a day of careful deliberation, you still present the same thing.
If all organisms are of the same species as their parent(s), then there can only be one species in the entire world. If C is the offspring of B, then C and B are of the same species and if B is the offspring of A, then B and A are of the same species. Therefore, A/B/C are necessarily the same species.
If not, then at some point in time, organisms bring forth offspring of a different species in a single generative act, so you need to choose which model better explains the myth.
Speciation is not transitive.
‘Species’ is transitive in Taxonomy where it was born, it isn’t for those who hijacked the word to explain myths/speciation.
 
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Yes, there is…now.
Do you also think that every organism is transitional? which means in your color diagram, organisms of all time are neither blue nor purple, neither orange nor red.
And if color represents a species, those that are neither blue nor purple, are they a species? what species are they, blue or purple?
Every current species is somewhere on the spectrum. We can p(name removed by moderator)oint where we are now but we can not look forward to where we will be. We ca look back and see where we were. The fossils tell us, the genetics tell us and archeology has found evidence of what we did. As an analogy, we are now purple…we used to be red. At what point in our evolution can you p(name removed by moderator)oint the spot where we were decidedly one or the other…you can’t. It’s a process…usually a long slog of a process with all those micro evolutions eventually turning into a macro evolution but it has no single point where we are able to say, Right there! It also depends on what you want to identify as Right there…walking upright, language ability, higher brain function, etc…all happened in the areas between red and purple and need not be at the same point of red/purple. That’s why you can not draw lines… I hope the analogy helps you see the issue. We have lots of fossils that show hominids developing along the spectrum. We’ve given them lots of names to place them on the spectrum.
 
Are we transitional today? and can we p(name removed by moderator)oint ourselves as a species today?
 
Are we transitional today? and can we p(name removed by moderator)oint ourselves as a species today?
Yes, we are transitional today and also a species today…we have no idea where we are transitioning to…in evolution, at each point on the journey, every species was a species itself. But species are not static. Your children will not be JUST a 50/50 mix of you and your spouse. He/she will also have some small mutations…and on and on. Maybe our species winds up yellow. Each of us, on our way to yellow or wherever we wind up will be our own species…it’s just when we look back thousands of years, we’ll realize we aren’t where we used to be. We may have to give ourselves a new nomenclature to identify that we are now a different species. We don’t know. Evolution can only look back. We know we are continuing to change even now…we see it in our dentition! But we have no idea where we are heading because we don’t know the environment or pressures in the future.
 
Yes, we are transitional today and also a species today…we have no idea where we are transitioning to…in evolution, at each point on the journey, every species was a species itself.
This is contradictory. We are a species and we can p(name removed by moderator)oint that we are because there are boundaries that define our species. Being transitional means there are no clear boundaries.

We are clear blue- means we are not transitional between blue and purple. If we are transitional, then we are not clearly blue nor purple and we can not define ourselves as either blue or purple which means we don’t belong to any species.
 
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We are clear blue- means we are not transitional between blue and purple. I
We might be clear blue but we carry a genome that shows lots of purple in us. Maybe we aren’t blue…maybe we’re purpley blue. It’s arbitrary what we state we currently are. But we are a species and transitioning both at the same time. We can witness the slow loss of our wisdom teeth as a tiny example. Europeans have a terrible time with wisdom teeth that are too large for our jaws. Eskimos don’t develop them anymore…eventually, we won’t either…it’s a tiny advantage to never develop teeth that cause such problems.

I don’t care if you accept evolution or not. My feeling is that you are missing out on a wonderful area of science if you do but I’m not risking anything if you don’t. But please, learn about it…know what it IS. Understand the evidences for it…why it’s argued as it is. To deny it without fully understand all that evolution is…and is not…puts you in a position to make reasoned arguments against it…which, by the way, usually fail. But don’t just deny it if you don’t know what the science is. That’s arguing from ignorance and I have a feeling you’re probably a bright guy/gal.
 
I don’t care if you accept evolution or not. My feeling is that you are missing out on a wonderful area of science if you do but I’m not risking anything if you don’t. But please, learn about it…know what it IS. Understand the evidences for it…why it’s argued as it is. To deny it without fully understand all that evolution is…and is not…puts you in a position to make reasoned arguments against it…which, by the way, usually fail. But don’t just deny it if you don’t know what the science is. That’s arguing from ignorance and I have a feeling you’re probably a bright guy/gal.
I have passed that stage and i’m sure i wont be going back. I believe in something totally different.
 
I have no idea what that means.
Means everything observed is just your own perception including your own body. IOW, the universe is inside you or you are looking at your own mind with everything you see or understand.
 
Are you identical to your parents? You have your own unique mutations that neither of your parents have.
There’s approx 30 give or take RNA to DNA mistakes per generation.
Those mistakes are as a devolution.
great great great great grandchilden from now? is speculative
 
Darwinism remains theory
Yes. It is a scientific theory. You know what a scientific theory is, don’t you?

noun​

a coherent group of propositions formulated to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world and repeatedly confirmed through experiment or observation: the scientific theory of evolution.
 
The law of gravity is actually still a theory. It just has so much overwhelming evidence that it’s considered a law. Technically, it’s still a theory. Many scientists would agree with evolution also being called a law but they know what the reaction would be from certain corners.
 
The law of gravity is actually still a theory. I
Many scientists would agree with evolution also being called a law
Many many many more Know that Gravity is just about Solid as a Rock.
Way more than that of the pluralism of disagreeable arguments re: Darwinism

Gravity and Darwinism remain like Oranges and Pencils

One is empirical science and the other is built upon Historical science

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Most people use the word ‘theory’ to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word ‘theory’ refers to the way that we interpret facts.
Most people is not science…

Whatever - Darwinism is not established in modern science

Call them by whatever name - Theories (PLURAL) exist …
 
there is no scientific answer to this question. We are all Adam and Eve , dont you see? Dont you see the story is about each person being born innocent and progressing in reason to the ability to know and love God and obey God? or not?
 
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