Adding Our Own Lessons and Carols to the Mass

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If anybody answers this question, it would be most helpful if you could point to an article by a cardinal, or a Vatican document, or the GIRM, etc.

Instead of having a lessons and carols service before Christmas Vigil Mass, we have been having discussions about adding a few of them into the Mass itself.

Our situation is: On Sundays our morning choir has already volunteered to be the music ministry at Christmas Vigil. But the truth is, they often use inappropriate music for the Mass, so our pastor has reached out to a more traditional evening choir. This evening choir has accepted. But now the morning choir still wants to be part of the Vigil Mass, so the compromise is that they can participate in the Vigil Mass - BUT - in order to constrain them from using their inappropriate music (trust me, it’s inappropriate), our pastor has sought to bring some measure of traditional music into the Mass under the auspices of using a Lessons and Carols format.

This would be done in the “readings” section of the Liturgy of the Word where there would normally be just the old testament, the New Testament, and the Gospels. But for the sake of brevity, since this will be within the context of the Mass, only three or four readings from the traditional Lessons and Carols will be used, along with their corresponding songs and brief prayers. Note: the extra readings from the standard Lessons and Carols line up would be interspersed among the three standard Mass readings.

Important:
Please do not reduce this to a simple issue of “do the black say the red.” Trust me, I am all about ‘do the black, say the red’ but this case requires additional sources of guidance and a more broad perspective because there is also a deeply pastoral component to this particular planned use of Lessons and Carols in the Vigil Mass. It is to a.) not disenfranchise the choir who was previously lined up to do the music, and b.) to “bring back” this same choir and to educate them that there is adequate music which may be used in the misalette.

Whether we can or cannot mix in some of the Lessons and Carols readings, song, and prayers, it’s not the end of the world in the sense that I am not personally invested in either outcome. In other words, “i don’t have a horse in the race.” I just want to have the best outcome whatever it is. I am inclined to think that this is just one of those issues where pastoral concerns factor heavily. Our pastor is a totally excellent canon lawyer and the vicar of the bishop, so he’s not “out there” and is definitely not an intellectual light weight. He is extremely holy and amazingly pastoral. So if I were to approach him about this, I’d literally need something where, for example, Chaput has address the issue negatively, or if in some other way it has been definitively dealt with by a commission, or Ratzinger, Arinze, etc.

My gut instinct is that this is fine to do, especially since in America we do all kinds of extra stuff in our Christmas Masses, such as carrying in the statue of the baby Jesus, extra processions, etc. I just wanted to be sure that interspersing additional readings into the normal Mass readings of Christmas Vigil was not a totally MAJOR no-no.

Thanks for your help and your prayers!
 
I may not be understanding this 100%, but from what I get is that you are planning on adding parts to the Mass. It is absolutely prohibited. Lessons may only be delivered during Homily and by an ordained man. You may not add or remove anything from the rubrics of the Mass.

I don’t know why the priest cannot just tell the choir to sing what he wants them to sing. As shepher of the flock, he should be guiding the flock and telling them where to go, not the other way around.
 
I may not be understanding this 100%, but from what I get is that you are planning on adding parts to the Mass. It is absolutely prohibited. Lessons may only be delivered during Homily and by an ordained man. You may not add or remove anything from the rubrics of the Mass.

I don’t know why the priest cannot just tell the choir to sing what he wants them to sing. As shepher of the flock, he should be guiding the flock and telling them where to go, not the other way around.
Thank you for responding. Can you point to a specific Vatican, USCCB, or other definitive source endorsing what you have just said? It would be most useful if it addressed the specific subject of adding additional readings.
 
Thank you for responding. Can you point to a specific Vatican, USCCB, or other definitive source endorsing what you have just said? It would be most useful if it addressed the specific subject of adding additional readings.
SACROSANCTUM CONCILIUM

22.3. Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority.

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html
 
SACROSANCTUM CONCILIUM

22.3. Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority.

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html
I like this, and it is indeed good… but bear in mind we are not “adding these things to THE Liturgy.” We are adding it to a Liturgy. I am generally supportive of your logic, and I am so truly thankful you have taken the time to help. I am hoping to find something that goes a little further.

For example, consider Liturgical dance. There are plenty of definitive statements where Cardinal Arinze plainly states that Liturgical Dance is wrong. If my question was about Liturgical Dance, one of those quotes by Arinze would be far more useful than a mention from Ratzinger about not being able to add things to the Liturgy.

So, are there any statements about not adding readings to Masses, or specifically to Christmas Vigil Masses?
 
I like this, and it is indeed good… but bear in mind we are not “adding these things to THE Liturgy.” We are adding it to a Liturgy. I am generally supportive of your logic, and I am so truly thankful you have taken the time to help. I am hoping to find something that goes a little further.

For example, consider Liturgical dance. There are plenty of definitive statements where Cardinal Arinze plainly states that Liturgical Dance is wrong. If my question was about Liturgical Dance, one of those quotes by Arinze would be far more useful than a mention from Ratzinger about not being able to add things to the Liturgy.

So, are there any statements about not adding readings to Masses, or specifically to Christmas Vigil Masses?
maggah, a one time addition is an addition nonetheless. It doesn’t matter if its permanent or temporary, the fact is you cannot change the Liturgy. Only competent authorites can change the Liturgy.
 
maggah, a one time addition is an addition nonetheless. It doesn’t matter if its permanent or temporary, the fact is you cannot change the Liturgy. Only competent authorites can change the Liturgy.
Perhaps the CCC may help?

1125 For this reason no sacramental rite may be modified or manipulated at the will of the minister or the community. Even the supreme authority in the Church may not change the liturgy arbitrarily, but only in the obedience of faith and with religious respect for the mystery of the liturgy.
 
maggah, a one time addition is an addition nonetheless. It doesn’t matter if its permanent or temporary, the fact is you cannot change the Liturgy. Only competent authorites can change the Liturgy.
As much as your logic is correct, it is not a basis for serious discussion in the context of a meeting. Can you offer, aside from yourself, any commentary from competent authorities on this specific subject, or even the general subject of adding readings to Masses?
 
Perhaps the CCC may help?

1125 For this reason no sacramental rite may be modified or manipulated at the will of the minister or the community. Even the supreme authority in the Church may not change the liturgy arbitrarily, but only in the obedience of faith and with religious respect for the mystery of the liturgy.
Now this is getting us somewhere. I still wish I had more to go on, such as a specific condemnation of a situation where readings were added to a Mass, but I think this catechism paragraph may be the start of a basis for discussion. Thank you so much!
 
As much as your logic is correct, it is not a basis for serious discussion in the context of a meeting. Can you offer, aside from yourself, any commentary from competent authorities on this specific subject, or even the general subject of adding readings to Masses?
Sacrosantum Concilium, GIRM and the CCC already clearly states that it cannot be done. Those are more authritative than commentaries by Bishops because commentaries do not carry the force of law, Sacrosantum and the GRIM does.

And like I said earlier, the priest can give this lessons as part of his Homily.
 
Now this is getting us somewhere. I still wish I had more to go on, such as a specific condemnation of a situation where readings were added to a Mass, but I think this catechism paragraph may be the start of a basis for discussion. Thank you so much!
I don’t know how any more clear this can be stated than it already has.

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Important:
Please do not reduce this to a simple issue of “do the black say the red.”…
So if I were to approach him about this, I’d literally need something where, for example, Chaput has address the issue negatively, or if in some other way it has been definitively dealt with by a commission, or Ratzinger, Arinze, etc.
I fear you will not find what you are seeking for, you see, it really is simple. If this simplicity is offensive, then perhaps it is not something you should use, but there is nothing else. If one will not listen to the Church, there is no other recourse.
 
From the GIRM:
23. Moreover, in order that such a celebration may correspond more fully to the prescriptions and spirit of the Sacred Liturgy, and also in order to increase its pastoral effectiveness, certain accommodations and adaptations are specified in this General Instruction and in the Order of Mass.
  1. These adaptations consist for the most part in the choice of certain rites or texts, that is, of the chants, readings, prayers, explanations, and gestures that may respond better to the needs, preparation, and culture of the participants and that are entrusted to the priest celebrant. Nevertheless, the priest must remember that he is the servant of the Sacred Liturgy and that he himself is not permitted, on his own initiative, to add, to remove, or to change anything in the celebration of Mass.
    As paragraphs 23 and 24 show, the Missal and the GIRM already take into account the legitimate options and alterations that may be made for pastoral reasons. The adaptations allowable are those that are specified, mostly in the choice of parts. Beyond that, he priest is not permitted to add anything in the celebration of Mass. It doesn’t get much clearer than this – I don’t know why anyone would expect the GIRM to list each and every thing that may not be added to the liturgy, instead of doing what it does, which is to say that some options specified in the GIRM may be added, and nothing else.
 
Sacrosantum Concilium, GIRM and the CCC already clearly states that it cannot be done. Those are more authritative than commentaries by Bishops because commentaries do not carry the force of law, Sacrosantum and the GRIM does.

And like I said earlier, the priest can give this lessons as part of his Homily.
I’m sorry to say that the sources you cited are not ‘home run, direct hits’ in terms of being able to convince people not to do this. Meanwhile, if you do a search for Liturgical Dancing, you will see abundant and clear teachings by prominent authorities on this matter. But thank you for your time.
 
I do not know what you are after here everyone is giving you the correct answer with back up fromm the CCC. Why do you not throw a Christmass pegent in the wreck hall and leave Mass alone. Also if this band is this over the top then why are they performing at Mass anyway. This is why I am happy to live in a more conservative parish. Our youth group band played Mass once and only once before our Pastor got very involved with what they were permited to perform.
 
From the GIRM:
23. Moreover, in order that such a celebration may correspond more fully to the prescriptions and spirit of the Sacred Liturgy, and also in order to increase its pastoral effectiveness, certain accommodations and adaptations are specified in this General Instruction and in the Order of Mass.
  1. These adaptations consist for the most part in the choice of certain rites or texts, that is, of the chants, readings, prayers, explanations, and gestures that may respond better to the needs, preparation, and culture of the participants and that are entrusted to the priest celebrant. Nevertheless, the priest must remember that he is the servant of the Sacred Liturgy and that he himself is not permitted, on his own initiative, to add, to remove, or to change anything in the celebration of Mass.
    As paragraphs 23 and 24 show, the Missal and the GIRM already take into account the legitimate options and alterations that may be made for pastoral reasons. The adaptations allowable are those that are specified, mostly in the choice of parts. Beyond that, he priest is not permitted to add anything in the celebration of Mass. It doesn’t get much clearer than this – I don’t know why anyone would expect the GIRM to list each and every thing that may not be added to the liturgy, instead of doing what it does, which is to say that some options specified in the GIRM may be added, and nothing else.
Your reply is extremely helpful. Thank you. Nevertheless, as I pointed out, if you take something like Liturgical Dancing, eucharistic ministers giving blessings to non-communicants, laymen giving homilies, etc. there are abundant and specific statements made about these. I see no similar material for additional readings.
 
I do not know what you are after here everyone is giving you the correct answer with back up fromm the CCC. Why do you not throw a Christmass pegent in the wreck hall and leave Mass alone. Also if this band is this over the top then why are they performing at Mass anyway. This is why I am happy to live in a more conservative parish. Our youth group band played Mass once and only once before our Pastor got very involved with what they were permited to perform.
Did you read my full post?
 
I do not know what you are after here everyone is giving you the correct answer with back up fromm the CCC. Why do you not throw a Christmass pegent in the wreck hall and leave Mass alone. Also if this band is this over the top then why are they performing at Mass anyway. This is why I am happy to live in a more conservative parish. Our youth group band played Mass once and only once before our Pastor got very involved with what they were permited to perform.
Well, as I mentioned, there are abundant articles and statements made about other Liturgical Abuses such as laymen preaching, eucharistic ministers giving blessings to non-communicants, etc. There are no such statements, articles, about Christmas Mass abuses, or about adding readings to the Mass in general, and I am starting to find that silence deafening.
 
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