adding things to the liturgy

[angell1]

does this constitute an actual sin?

for example, the blessing instead of communion thing, although minor in the grand scheme of things and done out of pastoral concern, technically violates the girm

but aren’t the priests who are doing this technically disobeying authority? obviously, there are more disturbing abuses than this.

i’m not trying to start an argument, i’m just wondering how this all relates

 

[LightBound]

does this constitute an actual sin?

for example, the blessing instead of communion thing, although minor in the grand scheme of things and done out of pastoral concern, technically violates the girm

but aren’t the priests who are doing this technically disobeying authority? obviously, there are more disturbing abuses than this.

i’m not trying to start an argument, i’m just wondering how this all relates

Angel my dear, in all charity and seriousness, how does this relate to you? Are you going to address a perceived disobedience? This is really not something you need to worry about at all. You need to focus your mental energy on obtaining your college degree, gaining independence from your family, and work on getting that spiritual director to aid you with your scrupulosity, instead of this obsession of looking for sin in other people’s lives and situations.

 

[fan312]

As Fr. Z usually would say in this situation, “Say the black, do the red.”
Priests are supposed to go by the book when it comes to the liturgy. Speaking in the parts in black, and doing what is written in red.
If they were to violate this, it would count as a liturgical abuse. Some abuses are worse than others, but these abuses don’t actually constitute a sin, unless said abuse in turn abuses Christ. No priest or bishop has the authority to add or remove to the liturgical books, so I guess it would count as disobeying authority. But then again, many priests do these teeny tiny abuses, but they wouldn’t be reprimanded for a tiny little thing.

Please correct me if I am wrong here.

 

[zab]

does this constitute an actual sin?

for example, the blessing instead of communion thing, although minor in the grand scheme of things and done out of pastoral concern, technically violates the girm

but aren’t the priests who are doing this technically disobeying authority? obviously, there are more disturbing abuses than this.

i’m not trying to start an argument, i’m just wondering how this all relates

Since we do not know that all the criteria involved in determining whether or not this or that priest is “disobeying authority” by giving a blessing in the Communion line, it is best that we do not judge or comment negatively about it.

 

[migencluz]

According to Fr. Matt Hartley, there is no actual blessing given during the Communion. The actual blessing is towards all Mass-goers at the end of the Mass.

My take on this “blessing” is that it is a trigger for a spiritual Communion, which is the Communion one makes when the this person is not allowed to consume the Blessed Sacrament for any reason (not in state of grace, not Catholic, have not taken First Holy Communion, etc.), and that it is the priest’s sign of excitement as he waits for that moment that the person can finally take in the Blessed Sacrament. The “blessing” given to people who don’t receive Communion is similar to a priestly “God bless,” which is not always meant to be a blessing each time it is said.

 

[Confiteor_Deo]

If it goes against the rubrics, or constitutes liturgical abuse, then I would say that it is a sin. I didn’t know that there was controversy concerning the blessing instead of receiving; the priests do it at the Traditional Latin Mass I go to and they’re pretty strict (although most people just stay in the pew).

 

[Mary_Estelle]

A blessing for someone in the communion line is for those that are usually studying to become a Catholic, but not quiet there yet. They approach with arms crossed over the chest so the priest know not to give communion, but a blessing.

 

[peter26]

If it is a deliberate disobedience to the rules, its a sin. The GIRM and other liturgical documents have to be followed - they are not just guidelines. Clearly, some abuses are worse than others and anything connected to the Eucharist is likely to be a more serious abuse. But yes, I would say if a priest knows he should not do something and does it anyway and that is deliberate (not just forgetfulness or something like that), its a sin.

 

[angell1]

If it goes against the rubrics, or constitutes liturgical abuse, then I would say that it is a sin. I didn’t know that there was controversy concerning the blessing instead of receiving; the priests do it at the Traditional Latin Mass I go to and they’re pretty strict (although most people just stay in the pew).

well, it’s technically not in the rubrick

 

[angell1]

If it is a deliberate disobedience to the rules, its a sin. The GIRM and other liturgical documents have to be followed - they are not just guidelines. Clearly, some abuses are worse than others and anything connected to the Eucharist is likely to be a more serious abuse. But yes, I would say if a priest knows he should not do something and does it anyway and that is deliberate (not just forgetfulness or something like that), its a sin.

hmm, I guess every single holy, wonderful priest I know is technically disobeying then, because they all do the blessing thing, unless they don’t’ know that they shouldn’t do it. but that’s probably studied in seminary