Adding to the Bible and Taking away from the Bible

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There have been those who have posted here that if we add or take away from the Bible that it is a sin. Now do not get me wrong, I am not advocating altering Sacred Scripture, but if you are going to make an argument it needs to be in context and relevant. So let us look at some of your other citations that has been provided. The citations used are as follows.

As a note there are many Catholic apologist here that are vastly more knowledgeable than I am:thumbsup:, I may not be as eloquent or clear concerning fine details, so if I have incorrectly stated something please correct me.:yup:

Using he KJV and NASB updated version of the Bible it reads:

KJV Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

NASB Revelation 22:18-19

18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

With regards to this citation - The Bible is not one book but a collection of books. In verses 18 & 19 of Revelation 22 in the KJV and NASB updated version, Scripture is telling us that it is the “Book of Revelation” that there is to be nothing added or taken away from, it is not talking about entire Bible. it is specifically saying “This Book” (Revelation)

The next citations are as follows:
Taken from the Haydock’s Catholic Bible Commentary

KJV Deut 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

NASB Deut 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Understanding Deut 4:2 in context is as follows…

The Torah, which Deuteronomy is a part of, deals with the Jewish community, and the laws and commandments for that Jewish community to live by. Yes, the Ten Commandments are a part of the Torah and in Deuteronomy Moses is considered the author, under Divine inspiration, of the book. Remember that when Deuteronomy was written, there was no such thing as a Bible or an Old Testament just the Torah. The adding and taking away from Gods word or commandments is dealing with just that the Mosaic Law and the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:2. Add anything repugnant to the spirit of my law. No interpretation of this kind can be admitted. But this does not condemn well authorized traditions, and laws enacted by lawful superiors. The Jews always boast of their close adherence to the letter of the law, but they often forget the spirit of it, and by their traditions render it deformed, like a carcass. Demosthenes takes notice, that the Locrians had such a regard for their laws, that if any one chose to propose any fresh ones, he came with a rope about his neck, that if they did not meet with the approbation of the people, he might be strangled immediately. Moses cannot mean to forbid any more divine or civil commandments being written by Josue and the subsequent prophets. He only enjoins that nothing shall be altered by human authority. The other books of the Old Testament serve to explain the law; and so do the apostolical traditions afford great assistance to understand the true meaning of all the Scriptures, and hence we learn whatever we have to perform, without danger of being led astray.

KJV Deut 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

NASB 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.

The explanation for Deuteronomy 4:2 is also the context of this citation also.

KJV Prov 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

NASB Prov 30:6 Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.

Ver. 6. Is a reference back to Deuteronomy, And not anything contrary, as in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 — Liar. Also our Savior condemned the false explanations of the Pharisees, as his Church does those of all heretics.

When read in context and with proper knowledge of the structure of the Bible, things are far more different from cherry picking a verse here and there and applying it universally. You have to know when, why, and by whom it was written in order to derive its full contextual meaning.
 
Deut. is a part of the Old Testament. Now this doesn’t diminish its importance. On the contrary, every word, every verse, is the Word of God, directly from Christ Himself, however we must keep these in context. For arguments sake we can bring up many passages in the bible that say similar ideas. *Unfortunately I don’t have my bible in front of me… However again, we must consider the time line of the bible.

Context: Aaron was born in 1530 BC, three years later; Moses was born in 1527 BC. 40 years later Moses sees an Egyptian beating a Hebrew and Moses killed the Egyptian and buried him. He fled Egypt. This was 1487 BC. 40 years after that, Moses is tending the flock of his father in law Jethro the Priest of Midian, and sees a bush burning but not being consumed by the fire. Curious he goes to investigate, and their meets God. This is 1447 BC.

April 1447 BC, the fifteenth day, the day after the Passover Moses leads the children of Israel out of Egypt, beginning the Exodus. Then 3 months later, July 1447 BC, arrived at the base of Mount Sinai. Their Moses went into the mountain and receives the 10 commandments as well as begins work on Gods Testimony (Holy Scripture)

So this was July 1447 BC… And the book of Revelation was completed around 95 AD. This gives us about 1540 years that the Bible was being divinely inspired, written, and finally completed.

Now during the 1540 years the bible was being written, it is true that many prophets and individuals spoke in tongues, received dreams and visions, and all of these are Signs from God. They are the means of prophecy, which God uses. So this was during the 1540 years.

Then in revelations, verse 22:18,19 we read that the prophecy of the book is completed. Yes, the bible is made up of 63 books, and all of them are the word of God. However the last word in the book of Revelations is the final say that God has to give us. This was the question I was answering.

Concerning adding to and taking away, if we carefully study the bible, we come to realize that adding to and taking away isn’t so much referring to amending an extra book to the end of the bible. No, God is telling us, as he does throughout the whole bible, that the doctrines that are taught contrary to the bible are considered to be false Gospels. Sense God wrote His book, He means exactly what He says, though confusing. For these people change the meaning of the gospel, therefore making their own gospel. This was what happened to the seven churches in the beginning of Revelations.

This is what the bible says about these seven churches. “That god removed their candle”
This is what the bible says why God removed their candle. Because they sacrificed and preached a gospel of their own devising; true their ideals came from scripture, however they polluted it and began to rationalize their own method of salvation, contrary to what was preached in the Gospel.
Sincerely.
 
BibleAnswer said:
Deut. is a part of the Old Testament. Now this doesn’t diminish its importance. I never said it did, I am citing what was given as proof of not adding and taking away from the Bible. The references provided by another poster stated that these verses as proof of not adding or taking away. However when read in context, the poster was cherry picking to prove his point and failed miserably. On the contrary, every word, every verse, is the Word of God, directly from Christ Himself, however we must keep these in context. For arguments sake we can bring up many passages in the bible that say similar ideas. *Unfortunately I don’t have my bible in front of me… However again, we must consider the time line of the bible.

Context: Aaron was born in 1530 BC, three years later; Moses was born in 1527 BC. 40 years later Moses sees an Egyptian beating a Hebrew and Moses killed the Egyptian and buried him. He fled Egypt. This was 1487 BC. 40 years after that, Moses is tending the flock of his father in law Jethro the Priest of Midian, and sees a bush burning but not being consumed by the fire. Curious he goes to investigate, and their meets God. This is 1447 BC.

April 1447 BC, the fifteenth day, the day after the Passover Moses leads the children of Israel out of Egypt, beginning the Exodus. Then 3 months later, July 1447 BC, arrived at the base of Mount Sinai. Their Moses went into the mountain and receives the 10 commandments as well as begins work on Gods Testimony (Holy Scripture)

So this was July 1447 BC… And the book of Revelation was completed around 95 AD. This gives us about 1540 years that the Bible was being divinely inspired, written, and finally completed.Nice history lesson I guess, and for the sake of argument I will take your word on it.
Now during the 1540 years the bible was being written, it is true that many prophets and individuals spoke in tongues, received dreams and visions, and all of these are Signs from God. They are the means of prophecy, which God uses. So this was during the 1540 years.OK… I guess

Then in revelations, verse 22:18,19 we read that the prophecy of the book is completed. Yes, the bible is made up of 63 books, and all of them are the word of God. However the last word in the book of Revelations is the final say that God has to give us. This was the question I was answering. Is 63 a typo? There are 73 books in the Bible. Rev 22:18 & 19 is talking about the book of Revelation not the Bible. The Bible did not even exist at the time Revelation was written. 170 AD produced the first known Christian attempt at an Old Testament canon and in 360, a list of books similar to today’s canon. This was one of the Church’s earliest decisions on a canon.
In context Ver. 18-19. I, John, testify and bear witness of all the truths contained in this revelation: If any man shall add to these things, he becomes guilty of sin, and makes himself liable to the punishments and plagues that are written in this book. (Witham) /COLOR]

Concerning adding to and taking away, if we carefully study the bible, we come to realize that adding to and taking away isn’t so much referring to amending an extra book to the end of the bible. No, God is telling us, as he does throughout the whole bible, that the doctrines that are taught contrary to the bible are considered to be false Gospels. What false Gospels are you referring to??? Catholic Doctrine is in line with Sacred Scripture. Sense God wrote His book, He means exactly what He says, though confusing. For these people change the meaning of the gospel, therefore making their own gospel. This was what happened to the seven churches in the beginning of Revelations. To you, what are the seven Churches???

This is what the bible says about these seven churches. “That god removed their candle”
This is what the bible says why God removed their candle. Because they sacrificed and preached a gospel of their own devising; true their ideals came from scripture, however they polluted it and began to rationalize their own method of salvation, contrary to what was preached in the Gospel. Meaning???
Sincerely.
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There is the scriptural issue itself, as to the meaning of the verses – exegesis of these,if you will.

Then, what this thread is subtly referring to has to do with interdenominational squabbling, such as whether the Book of Mormon is valid / invalid, due to these verses (as an example of just one of the controversies surrounding these verses).

There is a particularly well-known West-Coast self-described Bible teacher who hammers on these verses all the time, to make a favorite point about “false gospels.”
 
Exegesis is obtainable my friend, it is not just a definition in a dictionary. And your mind is capable of understanding Gods will if you try, if you search the scripture. It is possible to obtain an understanding of the bible. Do you deny comparing scripture with scripture? Do you deny Christ spoke in parables?

[2 Timothy 15] You have been taught the Holy Scriptures from childhood, and they have given you the wisdom to receive the salvation that comes by trusting in Christ Jesus.

Scripture and Christ are one in the same. By trusting in the Scripture means you obtain the wisdom for salvation, that which is believing in Christ. To believe in Christ, you must believe in the bible. Because Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. The Word of God is the Scriptures, the Bible.

[John 1:14] So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen His glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father.

The Word that which is the Bible, the law of God, became flesh. Jesus Christ embodied the law of God that is Christ was the living representation of God’s Word. God’s Word to us is His Scripture.

[2 Timothy 16] All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right.

When Christ was on earth, He was a living example of the nature of the Bible. Of God. Of Himself. His nature never changes; His love never changes, His knowledge, power and grace never changes. Christ was a living example of how to worship God.

[2 Timothy 17] It is God’s way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do.

Exegesis is a big term; let’s just call it spiritual sensitivity, of being in accord with the Word of God. This is not impossible, and is not only accomplished by priests, popes, and people that write books explaining this or that. We don’t need any of that; you have the only sourcebook of truth in your lap.

Sense you mention Mormons then yes, they have an altogether different authority than the bible. They have their own bible. That is unfortunate. When the ultimate goal is salvation and faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God, then how do you hear the Word of God, if it is not being faithfully preached.

Do you think the bible is some sort of un crackable code? It becomes so evident when you compare scripture with scripture. There is no denying the impact of comparing scripture to scripture. Just try it; you will make connections totally contrary to anything you have ever heard before. And does it make it untrue because you have never heard of it before, NO, it means that you have been spiritually deaf (HE who has ears let him hear) Because then you would read about the parable of the wheat and tares, of the 10 bridesmaids, of the fig tree, of Lazarus, of the watchful servant, of the faithful servant, of a myriad of other stories, and characters, and parables and metaphors and get lost in the incredible authority the bible has, and realize the significance of these parables.
 
BibleAnswer said:
Exegesis is obtainable my friend, it is not just a definition in a dictionary. And your mind is capable of understanding Gods will if you try, if you search the scripture. It is possible to obtain an understanding of the bible. Do you deny comparing scripture with scripture? Do you deny Christ spoke in parables?

[2 Timothy 15] You have been taught the Holy Scriptures from childhood, and they have given you the wisdom to receive the salvation that comes by trusting in Christ Jesus.

Scripture and Christ are one in the same. By trusting in the Scripture means you obtain the wisdom for salvation, that which is believing in Christ. To believe in Christ, you must believe in the bible. Because Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. The Word of God is the Scriptures, the Bible.

[John 1:14] So the Word became human and lived here on earth among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen His glory, the glory of the only Son of the Father.

The Word that which is the Bible, the law of God, became flesh. Jesus Christ embodied the law of God that is Christ was the living representation of God’s Word. God’s Word to us is His Scripture.

[2 Timothy 16] All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It straightens us out and teaches us to do what is right.

When Christ was on earth, He was a living example of the nature of the Bible. Of God. Of Himself. His nature never changes; His love never changes, His knowledge, power and grace never changes. Christ was a living example of how to worship God.

[2 Timothy 17] It is God’s way of preparing us in every way, fully equipped for every good thing God wants us to do.

Exegesis is a big term; let’s just call it spiritual sensitivity, of being in accord with the Word of God. This is not impossible, and is not only accomplished by priests, popes, and people that write books explaining this or that. We don’t need any of that; you have the only sourcebook of truth in your lap.

Sense you mention Mormons then yes, they have an altogether different authority than the bible. They have their own bible. That is unfortunate. When the ultimate goal is salvation and faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God, then how do you hear the Word of God, if it is not being faithfully preached.

Do you think the bible is some sort of un crackable code? It becomes so evident when you compare scripture with scripture. There is no denying the impact of comparing scripture to scripture. Just try it; you will make connections totally contrary to anything you have ever heard before. And does it make it untrue because you have never heard of it before, NO, it means that you have been spiritually deaf (HE who has ears let him hear) Because then you would read about the parable of the wheat and tares, of the 10 bridesmaids, of the fig tree, of Lazarus, of the watchful servant, of the faithful servant, of a myriad of other stories, and characters, and parables and metaphors and get lost in the incredible authority the bible has, and realize the significance of these parables.
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BibleAnswer, I really do not know where you are going here.
As I stated in my first post, there have been some here that accuses the Catholic Church of adding to the Bible and taking away from it. The citations that they used are from the KJV and NASB versions of the Bible, which I provided. My intent was to look at the verses in context and dispel the misconceptions of their personal fallible interpretations of Sacred Scripture.
I am still curious as to what your response is to the previous post in which I have asked for your explanations to the items provided to you in red text. (post 4)
 
wmscott said:
There have been those who have posted here that if we add or take away from the Bible that it is a sin. Now do not get me wrong, I am not advocating altering Sacred Scripture, but if you are going to make an argument it needs to be in context and relevant. So let us look at some of your other citations that has been provided. The citations used are as follows.

As a note there are many Catholic apologist here that are vastly more knowledgeable than I am:thumbsup:, I may not be as eloquent or clear concerning fine details, so if I have incorrectly stated something please correct me.:yup:

Using he KJV and NASB updated version of the Bible it reads:

KJV Revelation 22:18-19

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

NASB Revelation 22:18-19

18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

With regards to this citation - The Bible is not one book but a collection of books. In verses 18 & 19 of Revelation 22 in the KJV and NASB updated version, Scripture is telling us that it is the “Book of Revelation” that there is to be nothing added or taken away from, it is not talking about entire Bible. it is specifically saying “This Book” (Revelation)

The next citations are as follows:
Taken from the Haydock’s Catholic Bible Commentary

KJV Deut 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

NASB Deut 4:2 “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Understanding Deut 4:2 in context is as follows…

The Torah, which Deuteronomy is a part of, deals with the Jewish community, and the laws and commandments for that Jewish community to live by. Yes, the Ten Commandments are a part of the Torah and in Deuteronomy Moses is considered the author, under Divine inspiration, of the book. Remember that when Deuteronomy was written, there was no such thing as a Bible or an Old Testament just the Torah. The adding and taking away from Gods word or commandments is dealing with just that the Mosaic Law and the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:2. Add anything repugnant to the spirit of my law. No interpretation of this kind can be admitted. But this does not condemn well authorized traditions, and laws enacted by lawful superiors. The Jews always boast of their close adherence to the letter of the law, but they often forget the spirit of it, and by their traditions render it deformed, like a carcass. Demosthenes takes notice, that the Locrians had such a regard for their laws, that if any one chose to propose any fresh ones, he came with a rope about his neck, that if they did not meet with the approbation of the people, he might be strangled immediately. Moses cannot mean to forbid any more divine or civil commandments being written by Josue and the subsequent prophets. He only enjoins that nothing shall be altered by human authority. The other books of the Old Testament serve to explain the law; and so do the apostolical traditions afford great assistance to understand the true meaning of all the Scriptures, and hence we learn whatever we have to perform, without danger of being led astray.

KJV Deut 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

NASB 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it.

The explanation for Deuteronomy 4:2 is also the context of this citation also.

KJV Prov 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

NASB Prov 30:6 Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.

Ver. 6. Is a reference back to Deuteronomy, And not anything contrary, as in Deuteronomy 4:2 and 12:32 — Liar. Also our Savior condemned the false explanations of the Pharisees, as his Church does those of all heretics.

When read in context and with proper knowledge of the structure of the Bible, things are far more different from cherry picking a verse here and there and applying it universally. You have to know when, why, and by whom it was written in order to derive its full contextual meaning.
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My 2 cents; all Scripture is Revelation from God and therefore by adding or subtracting; you are in essence saying God you put too much here or God you did not put enough; either slice is telling God you know better than He.
 
Tanner9188 said:
My 2 cents; all Scripture is Revelation from God and therefore by adding or subtracting; you are in essence saying God you put too much here or God you did not put enough; either slice is telling God you know better than He.
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I really do not have an issue with what you say. The point is that there are those who accuse the CC of adding and deleting from the Bible. I simply posted what they have cited as Biblical references. It is not necessary to know the basic subject because the CC is accused of this in most arguments. Fact is it was the Catholic Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that discerned which books (73 total) were Divinely inspired, which were heresy, and which were nice but were not of divine inspiration. the Catholic Church then compiled all of the Sacred texts into one book called the Bible.
 
BibleAnswer said:
Scripture and Christ are one in the same.
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This is not true for Catholics.

Scripture is a Book, or texts, etc.

Christ is God. The Second Person of the Trinity.

Both are legitimately referred to as the “Word of God” but both are DEFINITELY NOT one in the same from the Catholic perspective.
 
wmscott said:
I really do not have an issue with what you say. The point is that there are those who accuse the CC of adding and deleting from the Bible. I simply posted what they have cited as Biblical references. It is not necessary to know the basic subject because the CC is accused of this in most arguments. Fact is it was the Catholic Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, that discerned which books (73 total) were Divinely inspired, which were heresy, and which were nice but were not of divine inspiration. the Catholic Church then compiled all of the Sacred texts into one book called the Bible.
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Some of those books; the ones with geographical, historical and other errors cannot be of divine origin; since God does not make error. Maybe the reason the books were added to canon much later because of an agenda that is not divine in origin. The original use of the books were profitable for some devotional use, but were recognized as not divine in origin. the Jews did not recognize them as divine and they would know better than the Church wouldn’t they since they were written between Malachi and Matthew. Let assume what I say is true; then what would that say about the folks that added to the canon? What were their motivations for adding to the canon that which was known not to be divine? $$$? control? to support added doctrines not prescribed in the 66 books? other reasons? I don’t know except it was not from God.
 
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Some of those books; the ones with geographical, historical and other errors cannot be of divine origin; since God does not make error. Maybe the reason the books were added to canon much later because of an agenda that is not divine in origin. The original use of the books were profitable for some devotional use, but were recognized as not divine in origin.
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Show me how the 7 books of the Deuterocanon are not accurate? Each of them.

burden of proof is on you sir
the Jews did not recognize them as divine and they would know better than the Church wouldn’t they since they were written between Malachi and Matthew.
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“the” Jews? which Jews? You obviously have no knowledge of history. (not surprising, :rolleyes:)
Let assume what I say is true; then what would that say about the folks that added to the canon? What were their motivations for adding to the canon that which was known not to be divine? $$$? control? to support added doctrines not prescribed in the 66 books? other reasons?
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66? you mean 39 books since they were written before the NT… Also, when the Christian canon was actually official it contained 73 books (some, like the Oriental and Eastern churches had a few more). It wasn’t until the Protestant reformation that the Jewish canon of the Scripture was adopted into Christianity. I’m surprised you accept Jesus as the Messiah since the Jews didn’t accept him either… :hmmm:
I don’t know except it was not from God.
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there’s actually a LOT you don’t know about Judaism and Christianity and the canon… 🤷
 
[Is 28:9] “Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts?

[Is 28:10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.”

[Psalm 119:40-48] Behold, I long for Your precepts; Revive me in Your righteousness. Let Your mercies come also to me, O LORD- Your salvation according to Your word. So shall I have an answer to him who reproaches me, For I trust in Your word. And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth, For I have hoped in Your ordinances. So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever. And I will walk at liberty For I seek Your precepts. I will speak of Your testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed. And I will delight myself in Your commandments, Which I love. My hands also I will lift up to Your commandments, which I love, and I will meditate on Your statutes.

[Psalm 119:99-104] I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are Your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

[Psalm 119 :117-120] Hold me up, and I shall be safe, and I shall observe Your statutes continually. You reject all those who stray from Your statutes, For their deceit is falsehood. You put away all the wicked of the earth like dross; Therefore I love Your testimonies. My flesh trembles for fear of You, And I am afraid of Your judgments.

[Acts 17:11] These were more fair minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

[1 Ptr 2:2] As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby.

[2Tim 2:15] Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[2Tim 3:14-17] But as for you, continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Now for me to come to the understanding I have come to, I am told through Gods word the bible, to do the following:

[1Tim 4:6-7] If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. But reject profane and old wives fables, and exercise yourself rather to godliness

[2 Tim 4:2] Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

[2Tim 4:5] But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

However the hard reality of today is:

[2Tim 3:1] But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come,

[2Tim 3:5] Having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

[2Tim 3:7] Always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[2Tim 4:3-4] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.
 
BibleAnswer said:
[Is 28:9] “Whom will he teach knowledge? And whom will he make to understand the message? Those just weaned from milk? Those just drawn from the breasts?

[Is 28:10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.”

[Psalm 119:40-48] Behold, I long for Your precepts; Revive me in Your righteousness. Let Your mercies come also to me, O LORD- Your salvation according to Your word. So shall I have an answer to him who reproaches me, For I trust in Your word. And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth, For I have hoped in Your ordinances. So shall I keep Your law continually, Forever and ever. And I will walk at liberty For I seek Your precepts. I will speak of Your testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed. And I will delight myself in Your commandments, Which I love. My hands also I will lift up to Your commandments, which I love, and I will meditate on Your statutes.

[Psalm 119:99-104] I have more understanding than all my teachers, for Your testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep Your precepts. I have restrained my feet from every evil way, that I may keep Your word. I have not departed from Your judgments, for You Yourself have taught me. How sweet are Your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! Through Your precepts I get understanding; Therefore I hate every false way.

[Psalm 119 :117-120] Hold me up, and I shall be safe, and I shall observe Your statutes continually. You reject all those who stray from Your statutes, For their deceit is falsehood. You put away all the wicked of the earth like dross; Therefore I love Your testimonies. My flesh trembles for fear of You, And I am afraid of Your judgments.

[Acts 17:11] These were more fair minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.

[1 Ptr 2:2] As newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow thereby.

[2Tim 2:15] Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[2Tim 3:14-17] But as for you, continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Now for me to come to the understanding I have come to, I am told through Gods word the bible, to do the following:

[1Tim 4:6-7] If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. But reject profane and old wives fables, and exercise yourself rather to godliness

[2 Tim 4:2] Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

[2Tim 4:5] But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

However the hard reality of today is:

[2Tim 3:1] But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come,

[2Tim 3:5] Having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

[2Tim 3:7] Always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[2Tim 4:3-4] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.
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BibleAnswer I am lost, what is your point other than just posting verses from the Bible.
 
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