ADL's Foxman: Why 'The Passion' Still Troubles Me

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"It is now some 10 months since Mel Gibson’s movie “The Passion of the Christ” opened in the United States, and a week since its opening in Israel.

"It is a good time to look back at the controversy surrounding the movie, which may be revived surrounding the lead-up to the February Oscar Awards.

"We need to distinguish between the movie itself and its impact.

"In its depiction of Jews and how it attempts to turn back the clock on the many positive changes the Catholic Church has made in the last half-century, the film could not have been worse.

"Gibson not only blames the Jews for the persecution and death of Jesus, but along the way he plays into and reinforces the stereotypes of Jews that have haunted our people for two millennia.

“At the core of anti-Semitism, and what makes it different from other forms of ethnic or religious hatred, is the image of the Jew as alien, conspiratorial and mystically all-powerful…”

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adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Interfaith/jpost_20041230.htm
 
Well here we go again, it is in my recollection that Jesus died for the love of us and so we would be forgiven of our sins and we could go to Heaven.I have not heard of one incedent of violence because of the movie.I have heard of criminals turning themselves in though.I have also heard our local Rabbi say he didn’t see the demonisation of Jewish people in the movie. I believe that the root of the fits everywhere is diabolic, the devil doesn’t want to lose souls and he hates the cross.God Bless
 
The truth is that Gibson made concessions to Jewish pressure groups that actually distorted the meaning of the Gospels in favor of Jews, but to no avail. There truly is a lesson to be learned here.

The ADL desires nothing less than the rewriting of the Gospels which form the foundation of our faith.

They are despicable.
 
Foxman is nothing more than a Jewish Jesse Jackson…though I think the ADL has more worth than Rainbow Push in its present form
 
Quite frankly, I was faaaaaaaaaaar more haunted by the ROMAN SOLDIERS and their gleeful scourging of Christ than anything else!!!
 
St. James:
"In its depiction of Jews and how it attempts to turn back the clock on the many positive changes the Catholic Church has made in the last half-century, the film could not have been worse.
He’s right here to an extent. Gibson turned back the clock to the truth of the passion SOME in the Catholic Church try to suppress.

I wonder if he’s figured out yet that the heros in the movie were Jews and even more Jewish heros would be revealed if Gibson did Acts of the Apostles.
 
I suspect that those who reject the film, probably reject the Gospel. Modernists scholars who proclaim this view, get many non-believers as sad as it is, to subscribe to it.

Padre Pio “Don’t worry, work and pray.”
 
“Gibson not only blames the Jews for the persecution and death of Jesus, but along the way he plays into and reinforces the stereotypes of Jews that have haunted our people for two millennia.”
Foxman is now refuting what he told Diane Sawyer in a sidebar that was part of her 20/20 Mel Gibson interview. In it he specifically said he did not believe that Mel Gibson or his movie was intentionally anti-Semitic… yet here he says Gibson blames the Jews and stereotypes them?

Link:

therices.typepad.com/brutally_honest/2004/02/diane_sawyers.html

“I do not believe it’s an anti-Semitic movie,” Foxman said. “I believe that this movie has the potential to fuel anti-Semitism, to reinforce it.”

“This is his vision, his faith; he’s a true believer, and I respect that,” Foxman said. “But there are times that there are unintended consequences.”
 
Foxman and the ADL are quite controversial these days, firstly for outright hypocracy. Any negative portrayals of Jewish people no matter what the intention they attack viciously, however negative and foolish portrayals of Christians have been going on for years, whether on TV as bumbling holy fools or in films as restrictive strict abusive fathers or conspirators and hypocrites etc. etc.

Many times they have been sued for making false accusations of anti-semitism that have ruined people’s lives and they lost practically all of them. They’ve become too paranoid and only do harm against their fellow Jews they’re supposed to serve. Crying Wolf all the time, it would be no wonder when nobody takes them seriously anymore, however don’t doubt that they are a still a powerful and influential organization.
 
This made me recall the reactions before and shortly after the movie release. That TV rabbi Boteach wrote that the movie wasn’t an accurate portrayal of Christianity which is a “religion of love”. Chrisopher Hitchens said that it was totally ridiculous that we are all responsible for the crucifixion of a man 2000 years ago and that somehow that obtains forgiveness for the sins we commit today.

These two examples illustrate perfectly what St. Paul wrote: “we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block for Jews and folly for the Greeks.”

It always cracks me up when non-Christians try to redefine Christian theology. IMO the ongoing attacks on the movie confirm its adherence to the gospel.
 
You’d think if Christianity caused anti-Semitism some evidence would have found its way into the two Creeds. Instead, Pontius Pilate is named.

What’s weird is that the most anti-Semitic people now are non-believing atheists or Muslims who hate Israel, whereas it seems like the Vatican and Christian evangelicals have gone way over to the side of the Jews, for obvious reasons of commonality. Yet the less anti-Semitism in fact, the more the ADL seems to see in their fantasies.
 
Faithful 2 Rome:
Foxman is nothing more than a Jewish Jesse Jackson…though I think the ADL has more worth than Rainbow Push in its present form
I don’t see any difference between the two
 
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swampfox:
I don’t see any difference between the two
The difference is that Abe Foxman, like so many other Zionist activists, believes that our faith itself is the cause of “anti-Semitism” and created the conditions which led to the Holocaust.

These very powerful and influential activists seek to alter the Gospel upon which our faith is based to make the Gospel more agreeable with their agenda.
 
St. James:
The difference is that Abe Foxman, like so many other Zionist activists, believes that our faith itself is the cause of “anti-Semitism” and created the conditions which led to the Holocaust.

These very powerful and influential activists seek to alter the Gospel upon which our faith is based to make the Gospel more agreeable with their agenda.
Not too many people in the US pay any attention to the ADL. If nothing else, the popularity of the Passion of Christ is evidence of that.
 
Did Foxman see the same movie I saw? I did not see anything anti-Semitic in it. If Gibson blamed anyone it was the Romans.
 
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gilliam:
Not too many people in the US pay any attention to the ADL…
That’s precisely the problem. More people should be watching the ADL because the ADL is watching us and using it’s power and influence to shape our society to it’s liking.

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ADL asks Vatican to condemn ‘The Passion’
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**VATICAN CITY - **A Jewish leader met with Vatican officials this week to ask them to restate church teachings on the Crucifixion, saying Mel Gibson’s new film contradicts the church’s position that the Jews as a people were not responsible for Jesus’ death.

A top Vatican official who met with Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, said Wednesday that no such statement was planned. U.S. Archbishop John P. Foley, who heads the Vatican’s social communications office, again praised the film, “The Passion of the Christ,” and said he found nothing anti-Semitic in it.

**The ADL enjoys direct communication with Rome, a fact that startles me. Why the Vatican would give such an unreasonable organization the time of day is a question that people should be asking.

The ADL enjoys this level of communication with US government agencies from the local to the highest agencies at the federal level. This is a problem which people need to be aware of.
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gilliam:
If nothing else, the popularity of the Passion of Christ is evidence of that.
The popularity of “The Passion” is evidence of the power of Christ’s sacrifice for us, the defining event of Christian faith–an event which the ADL seeks to supress.
 
St. James:
The difference is that Abe Foxman, like so many other Zionist activists, believes that our faith itself is the cause of “anti-Semitism” and created the conditions which led to the Holocaust.

These very powerful and influential activists seek to alter the Gospel upon which our faith is based to make the Gospel more agreeable with their agenda.
You are right about Foxman but it is a symptom of what ails both Foxman and the so-called Reverend Jackson.They are both shills for a destructive, xenophobic and paranoid vision of reality that is rooted in an internalized victimization. As a consequence each promotes hate in his own unique way.
 
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