Adoption by Homosexual Persons

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The CDF document CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS, as I understand it, requires Catholics to oppose State recognition of homosexual unions and the rights of those in such unions to adopt children.

Is this in fact the current guiding document and understanding on such adoptions rights, and what would be examples of this issue being subsequently addressed by the hierarchy, whether in affirmation or dissent?

I’ve surprisingly not been able to find this much discussed or pronounced upon.
 
It should go without saying that a Christian should oppose adoptions by homosexual couples as a violation of the rights of an innocent child.
 
PaulfromIowa said:
It should go without saying that a Christian should oppose adoptions by homosexual couples as a violation of the rights of an innocent child.
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A homosexual couple might choose life by adopting an innocent child who was not aborted or provide a child a life beyond life in an orphanage.
 
Sy_Noe said:
A homosexual couple might choose life by adopting an innocent child who was not aborted or provide a child a life beyond life in an orphanage.
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Because so few heterosexual married couples are looking to adopt… :rolleyes: why place children with a couple that will not be able to provide some of the important things a child needs when there are couples available who will be able to do so? Should agencies not choose the very best couples for the children they are placing?
 
St_Francis said:
Because so few heterosexual married couples are looking to adopt… :rolleyes: why place children with a couple that will not be able to provide some of the important things a child needs when there are couples available who will be able to do so? Should agencies not choose the very best couples for the children they are placing?
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My upbringing was not one of a family setting with a heterosexual couple. I was raised by a single parent from pre-Kindergarten who provided important things following the death of my other parent. So you’re asking the wrong person. If a single parent can do it, I see no reason why 2 parents of the same gender can’t.
 
Sy_Noe said:
My upbringing was not one of a family setting with a heterosexual couple. I was raised by a single parent from pre-Kindergarten who provided important things following the death of my other parent. So you’re asking the wrong person. If a single parent can do it, I see no reason why 2 parents of the same gender can’t.
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First, you started off in a dual-sex household, altho you were young when your parent died. Second, your remaining parent seems to have worked to fill the void. Third, you don’t know what would have happened had your parent not died. Fourth, you were not adopted into the situation.

If a same-sex couple adopts, the couple may try to provide people of the opposite sex (usually if the child is of the opposite sex) but the main problem is that an very unideal model will be shown, and will be the main influence for the child. For example, take romantic interplay between two people of opposites sexes: this will be different from that between two people of the same sex. The child will not only lack the former but also be exposed to the latter, which is not appropriate to what the child is likely to need.

There are also many other difficulties with SS couples adopting, I only gave one example.
 
in my country

it is legal for a gay person to adopt a baby

but it is not permissible for a gay couple to adopt one
 
iceloveslitt said:
in my country

it is legal for a gay person to adopt a baby

but it is not permissible for a gay couple to adopt one
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This sounds a little odd to me. Why do you suppose that is the case in your country? Might not a gay couple, if faithful to one another, provide more of a stable relationship with a child than a single gay parent? Is it that a gay couple might expose the child to their love for each other?
 
Sy_Noe said:
A homosexual couple might choose life by adopting an innocent child who was not aborted or provide a child a life beyond life in an orphanage.
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I think there are two arguments against this. One is that no matter how hard they try, same-sex parents cannot provide the role of the opposite-sex parent. The other argument is that they do provide role models that gay behavior in the form of love, in particular, is normal and socially acceptable, which is contrary to the Church’s teaching, and–if we want to go the extra mile–another element in the gay agenda.
 
Sy_Noe said:
My upbringing was not one of a family setting with a heterosexual couple. I was raised by a single parent from pre-Kindergarten who provided important things following the death of my other parent. So you’re asking the wrong person. If a single parent can do it, I see no reason why 2 parents of the same gender can’t.
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I was raised by a single parent, my mother, after my father hit the road. I was 7(my sister was 4) never to be seen again nor provide child support.

It’s interesting to me how times have changed. Back in those days, late 60’s and early 70’s there was a plethora of research on how difficult it was for children to live without a father in the home. (That’s when most absentee parents were male, regretfully)

The side effects from research in those days included: increased suicide rates, increased drop out rates from high school, increased drug and alcohol use, and difficulty in later life maintaining relationships with the opposite sex and fear of abandonment issues that could be lifelong and impair relationships as well.

WOW times have changed. Now supposedly it’s perfectly fine for two same sex persons to adopt a child in the minds of some/many. Was all that research in the 60/70’s wrong then?

How can one even for a moment believe a child will not miss having a father or a mother depending on which gay couple adopts them? Children deserve both a straight mother and father to start life with and plenty are willing to adopt.

When you choose to marry a same sex person the reality is you can’t have a child naturally. That is your choice. This is the reality of the situation. You can’t have everything you want which is what society now seems to feel is the case with their gay agenda. How selfish of them to want to adopt a child and deprive them of either a father or mother. It’s purely selfish.

Ask any person who grew up in a two parent home with opposite sex parents and say
to them which I have many times
“Hey would you have cared if you had two dads or two moms instead of your dad and mom” and the resounding 100% answer is yes. I loved having a mom and dad. Some even had supported gay adoption so apparently it was ok for those “OTHER KIDS” but they had NO DESIRE to be in that situation.

Go figure.

I applaud Catholic adoption agencies who look for the best interest of the child and place children only in two parent heterosexual homes and not homes of those who are married gay couples.

Mary.
 
I have two points, Mary, about something you said here regarding any person who grew up in an opposite-sex, two-parent home. First, probably not everyone would agree, particularly if the home was not a loving but an abusive one. Second and more importantly, of course almost everyone who GREW UP this way would not want it to be different. A same-sex parent arrangement is foreign to them and may seem strange. Further, if they grew up in a loving home, why would anyone want the family structure to be different?

Concerning the research, preliminary evidence suggests that a loving home is more important than whether the parents are opposite- or same-sex. The older research still stands, however, for the most part, in that if a home is deprived of a second parent, by means of divorce for example but also the death of one parent, that has repercussions on the child’s future development. It is also the case that two genders do help the child in their development, so same-sex parents are NOT the ideal, but neither are they detrimental. In reality, one might ask, are there any parents who raise their children in an “ideal” way? Parents make all sorts of mistakes but their children, for the most part, turn out fine.

If one is morally opposed to this type of child-rearing, that is another issue. Insofar as Catholic agencies’ favoring only opposite-sex adoption, that is their moral and religious right. They should not be forced by the State to do otherwise.
 
An openly homosexual couple commented to me some time ago,

The Government & Religions prohibit Homosexual couples from raising children ,

But won’t remove a child from young teenagers or abusive parents because they have rights

Why can’t Homosexuals be loving careing parents ?

Why do men whom supposedly live in a heterosexual marriage that frequents public parks
Never have Their children removed for their safety,

It was an interesting conversation,
 
MaryT777 said:
It’s interesting to me how times have changed. Back in those days, late 60’s and early 70’s there was a plethora of research on how difficult it was for children to live without a father in the home. (That’s when most absentee parents were male, regretfully)

The side effects from research in those days included: increased suicide rates, increased drop out rates from high school, increased drug and alcohol use, and difficulty in later life maintaining relationships with the opposite sex and fear of abandonment issues that could be lifelong and impair relationships as well.

WOW times have changed. Now supposedly it’s perfectly fine for two same sex persons to adopt a child in the minds of some/many. Was all that research in the 60/70’s wrong then?

How can one even for a moment believe a child will not miss having a father or a mother depending on which gay couple adopts them? Children deserve both a straight mother and father to start life with and plenty are willing to adopt.
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We don’t need research to tell us these things. Just a halfway decent philosophy will do. In fact research mostly serves another purpose. It exists to promote agendas. If you look into a lot of research you find utter incompetence, fraud, and hubris. Think of all the factors that go into raising a good kid. Many of the outcome measurements aren’t quantifiable or even scientific.

In my case my folks divorced. My sisters and I graduated college, haven’t been arrested, have decent family incomes etc. Some phony research may try to show that divorce made no difference for us. But that would be a damnable lie.
 
phil_at_dayboro said:
An openly homosexual couple commented to me some time ago,

The Government & Religions prohibit Homosexual couples from raising children ,

But won’t remove a child from young teenagers or abusive parents because they have rights

Why can’t Homosexuals be loving careing parents ?

Why do men whom supposedly live in a heterosexual marriage that frequents public parks
Never have Their children removed for their safety,

It was an interesting conversation,
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However, the question is not about removing a child from a home but putting a child in a home. The interests of a child for whom a home is being chosen need to be placed above every other consideration.

When it comes to removing children —for example, children of a homosexual person born when the parent was in a heterosexual marriage— the standards are similar to those used for other already-existing parent-child relationships.
 
These “what if” scenarios are not consistent with the document the OP mentioned. Obviously, homosexual couples are adopting children but the point is, the Church believes that is not in the best interest of the child. That’s it.

Ed
 
I went to school with a female who eventually became a lesbian (this happened in college, she was hetero in high school), she is now legally married to another woman, they both have very good jobs with a large investment bank, they adopted a baby girl about 10 years ago, this girl was abandoned by her mother at birth, apparently her mother was drug addicted and having all sorts of mental problems, but overall, since she has been raised by two lesbian woman, she has a great life, all their pictures have big smiles, happy people enjoying doing things, she is very involved in school and in plenty of positive extracurricular activities.

They posted pictures last weekend from when they all went to the local pride festival, again, it was all smiles and happiness, nothing negative at all, but at the same time, they are not religious, they do not attend any church and probably not teaching her anything good in this regard, so in the secular world, this would be viewed as a good and positive environment, it looks honky dory on the surface.
 
mikekle said:
They posted pictures last weekend from when they all went to the local pride festival, again, it was all smiles and happiness, nothing negative at all, but at the same time, they are not religious, they do not attend any church and probably not teaching her anything good in this regard, so in the secular world, this would be viewed as a good and positive environment, it looks honky dory on the surface.
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All my childhood pictures have me smiling. Those from before my folks divorce and those from after. The pictures from when my dad married my step mom have me smiling too. That doesn’t mean I was happy or ever not suffering. This is why this is so evil. Kids endure. They are tough. But the wounds are deep and lifelong.
 
exnihilo said:
We don’t need research to tell us these things. Just a halfway decent philosophy will do. In fact research mostly serves another purpose. It exists to promote agendas. If you look into a lot of research you find utter incompetence, fraud, and hubris. Think of all the factors that go into raising a good kid. Many of the outcome measurements aren’t quantifiable or even scientific.

In my case my folks divorced. My sisters and I graduated college, haven’t been arrested, have decent family incomes etc. Some phony research may try to show that divorce made no difference for us. But that would be a damnable lie.
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I agree research can be used to promotes an agenda. Regretfully I don’t have the link but there was an excellent article written by a man raised by two homosexuals males and he had many issues about it and had wished he had not been raised in that situation.

He noted when he tried to go public he could not get anyone to publish or report on his story because anyone in that situation that might dare state their experience being raised by a homosexual parent was unfavorable is shunned by the huge LGBT community.

Once again ask anyone who had two parents that support this and ask them directly and they can’t answer you because they think about it actually how that might have been and they know they would have not cared for that and preferred their own two parents.

Mary.
 
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