Adultery. Do you tell?

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I am surprised no one has brought up the subject of possibly passing on stds due to the continuing of conjugal life. There is always a possibility that the adulterous mate has picked up some std and by not telling their spouse and continuing the conjugal life puts their spouses health and life at risk. Also not to mention it takes away their spouses informed consent.

People tend not to realize that there is more at risk by continuing conjugal life after an affair. I know that in the past I had a boyfriend cheat on me, then rape me and I got an std that he got from the other woman. Luckily it was something that was curable, but in a marital situation you can get an std because your spouse decided to cheat and then continued conjugal life without telling you the risks. You can end up paying with a life-long std or even death.

Some may say, “Well, take an std test before you continue conjugal life and don’t tell them about the affair.” That doesn’t work either because I know that some stds may not show up right away like HIV. HIV has been known to sometimes not show up on tests for a few month or not show up even up to a year.

Yes, telling them might cause the end of the marriage, may cause many marital problems, but at least you aren’t putting their health and life at risk and taking away their informed consent. I think that is a form of sexual assault.
This is the first thought that came to my mind…you’re putting your spouse at a terrible risk by not saying anything.

Not just HIV but chlamydia, syphillis, hepatitis and herpes also can test false negative…herpes can sometimes take 6 months for a positive to show up.

Your spouse finding out as opposed to you telling the truth may result in a far worse outcome when it comes to your marriage…but I can’t imagine how awful it would be for your spouse to discover he/she contracted an STD…against their will.

My opinion? Whether it’s recommended by the Church or not…you need to say something. You put your spouse in severe danger and they have no idea.
 
The place to tell is the confessional first so that your conscience can be clear to be able to determine your next step. Personally, I would rather not know as I would have trouble putting it behind me. What you don’t know can’t hurt me philosophy, but others would disagree.
What you don’t know def. can hurt you. If they bring home an std to you it can hurt you big time. Some stds don’t turn up on the tests right away and if you continue the conjugal life, not so good. Read my above post where I go into more detail.
 
This is the first thought that came to my mind…you’re putting your spouse at a terrible risk by not saying anything.

Not just HIV but chlamydia, syphillis, hepatitis and herpes also can test false negative…herpes can sometimes take 6 months for a positive to show up.

Your spouse finding out as opposed to you telling the truth may result in a far worse outcome when it comes to your marriage…but I can’t imagine how awful it would be for your spouse to discover he/she contracted an STD…against their will.

My opinion? Whether it’s recommended by the Church or not…you need to say something. You put your spouse in severe danger and they have no idea.
Also some forms of HPV don’t show up for men at all. The bf who raped me gave me HPV, the type that can cause cervical cancer, but he thought, “All my std tests came up negative, so it is okay.” Luckily I was young enough so my body eradicated it on it’s own, but if I was older, who knows.
 
It is surely a tough decision. What If the spouse is aware of the emotional infidelity and moves on without full knowledge of the physical? What if it has been years and STDS are no longer a concern?

During discussions of the emotional component … I did say honestly that is was the product of several problems in our marriage. He had betrayed me in a different sense… He was cold and had turned emotionally abusive. Now, I made the horrific choice. But if we were happy in our marriage… I don’t believe that it would have happened.
 
Please, provide some sort of example of what an innocent spouse might do that would deserve adultery as the response. Yes, it is possible for an “innocent” spouse to cause the adultery, but perhaps you and I live in quite different worlds. I know of people who would bring a third party into their marital bed to share their spouse with. This would be adultery, but it would be one caused by the “innocent” spouse.

Are you saying that because a wife doesn’t have sex often enough with her husband that she deserves for him to cheat on her? Are you saying that because a husband wants to play video games six nights a week, he deserves for his wife to cheat on him? I am very interested to hear your opinion on what constitutes “causing” adultery.
I have discussed this previously, but it isn’t easy. My wife decided thirteen years ago that she had “replaced me” (her words) with her work, her friends and family, and our children. She made this decision because of her perception of my actions (I worked too much, spent too much time with my family, etc). We never had a great sexual relationship, but we did have two great children. Her rejection was total: no communication, no love, no sex, no nothing. We lead separate lives.

She did not deserve that I should cheat on her, but eventually I chose to cheat. I solicited escorts about once every month or two for three years when I traveled on business. I craved the attention, touch, and feeling of a woman. It didn’t necessarily end in consummated sex. That was only part of the need, it was good to communicate intimately with a woman. It was great to feel wanted, even if it was not love. It was misguided sin and it was protected sex. It was mortal sin on every level.

Well I finally decided to turn away from that and seek reconciliation with God in the sacraments. I’ve tried to do my best ever since, and have not repeated this adultery since I sought forgiveness from God. But I have not approached my wife on this, and don’t expect to, but that could change if we ever reconcile our marriage. This was 9 years ago and I remain celibate.

As I said she didn’t deserve this, but I was only too willing to pursue extramarital sex after a few years of abandonment at home. I don’t wish any of this on anyone, but I said my peace.
 
I have heard mixed reviews about this. If someone commits adultery must they tell their spouse? Especially if it’s been years since the mortal sin took place? Wouldn’t it be harming more than helping?
What good would it possibly do? It opens old wounds and now the spouse must deal with something he/she would be better off not knowing about. If it is OVER, what is the sense of dumping this old news on a spouse so the other can feel what?

You ask forgiveness only when it will do no harm otherwise you get to live with the guilt. Confession is recommended. Since this happened years ago, the person probably has already confessed and the priest probably did not advise the person to tell spouse.
 
Here is a link to the Code of Canon Law, Canon 1152.

intratext.com/ixt/ENG0017/_P44.HTM

It reads as follows:

ARTICLE 2: SEPARATION WHILE THE BOND REMAINS

Can. 1151 Spouses have the obligation and the right to maintain their common conjugal life, unless a lawful reason excuses them.

Can. 1152 §1 It is earnestly recommended that a spouse, motivated by christian charity and solicitous for the good of the family, should not refuse to pardon an adulterous partner and should not sunder the conjugal life. Nevertheless, if that spouse has not either expressly or tacitly condoned the other’s fault, he or she has the right to sever the common conjugal life, provided he or she has not consented to the adultery, nor been the cause of it, nor also committed adultery.

This is quite clear that this is a right belonging to the injured spouse. By keeping it secret, the adulterous spouse has not only grievously wronged and betrayed the innocent spouse, but is wronging the innocent spouse further by robbing him or her of his right to decide whether or not to continue conjugal life.
In response to everyone, how I read this was that being the cause of it might mean more like actively encouraging or even compelling your partner to commit adultery - some people do do insane things like try having sex with other people in order to help their marriage.
 
How on earth could you look in the face of someone to whom you are lying every day of your life, especially when you made a commitment to them to become one with them and to help each other through hard times?
 
If the church tells us to report impediments to marriage before it happens, which used to be why marriage intentions are announced at Mass, can we just forget about it if they happen during marriage?
The priest who held our marriage preparation class told us that it was our duty to report even things that might not seem like impediments at first, not only other relationships but also if they did not really love one another or they didn’t treat each other with respect. Obviously I wouldn’t run to the priest if I saw them angry one time, but this is a little more serious.
 
My wife has had an emotional affair at a minimum that I know about. She has not told me anything yet and still struggles tremendously in our marriage. I have told her in previous conversations that I love her unconditionally and I’m not going anywhere. I have even gone so far to tell her that I will forgive her for anything she has done “in the past”. I just want us to move forward.

I just feel like the pain of being “rejected” by your spouse is no different than if they had an affair or not. I know the emptiness and how I feel everyday of my wife not “seeing” me at all. There are days when I feel like she only likes me for my paycheck and help around the house whether that’s laundry or replacing windows.

If she did have a physical affair I think it would be important to know that not only Christ forgives her, but I do as well. The burden of carrying that for the rest of her life I think would not free her from the weight of that indiscretion.

Do I want to hear her confess something like that? A most definite no, but that is "our’ journey together to walk with Christ in our marriage vocation. I know my own sins in my heart because of my wife’s constant rejection. Lust in my heart is sin as well and only together with Christ leading us, will we be able to have a joyous and fulfilling marriage.
 
My opinion? It depends on the spouses wisshes with respect to this kind of thing. I would be absolutely furious if someone cheated on me and didn’t tell me about it. There are some people, as you’ve seen in this thread, who would rather not know. I can understand not wanting to know if it was something that happened a long time ago and of which the guilty party has since repented and fixed. If it is a past sin that has actually been fixed and is no longer an issue in any respect in the marriage (as in both spousses are back to a fully loving and comitted relationship to each other) then it could cause more trouble than its worth to bring up something that is no longer an issue. If, however, it is something recent, I would feel betrayed by such a deception. Being secretive is much more damaging to a couples trust than doing evil but being honest and repentant about it. I would take the latter any day, even though it would be slightly more painful for a time it would certainly result in a better marriage.
 
It’s been a year since this post, but I was disappointed to see bad advise being given to the OP mostly in the form of “don’t tell!” Furthermore, to insinuate there could possibly be any acceptable justification to throw away one’s own morals and soul to commit a SIN is simply preposterous! As a betrayed spouse, I find it offensive that no-one considered in our marriage vows we promise before God to respect, honor, and cherish our spouses. All of these duties encompass the domain of honesty. One dishonors the self, God, and the spouse when practicing deceit. Confessing to a priest alone will not clear you of the responsibility to be truthful to the one you have wronged. It is Catholic teaching that any promise made with God as witness, under false pretense places you at the same level as a blasphemer, for you have made God witness to a lie. (It’s in the Catechism, look it up under taking the Lord’s Name in vain).

I’m recovering from my husband’s adultery and I’m disappointed to find myself with no organized support system within my Catholic faith. My diocese’s website has a “Divorce Ministry” in place, but nothing official at all for those who wish to SAVE their marriage. Why are we so accepting of tearing asunder what God has united?

Those who said to seek professional help were right. Contrary to what others said about keeping the adultery secret, a good counselor will tell you that honesty is best. If you hope to fix your marriage, are repentant for your sin, fully intend to never again fall, and be fully committed to your spouse, how can you possibly do these things if you are building right over an unsteady foundation of dishonesty and secrets? By continuing to lie, you are placing a barrier between you that will prevent you from fully connecting with him/her and will keep you in complicity with your adulterous partner. That’s how you got in trouble in the first place. You allowed distance and barriers to grow between you and your spouse and allowed an outsider in to share in your confidence and intimacy in their stead. Even the most distant, frigid spouse doesn’t deserve adultery. You make a choice for them by not seeking help before you cheat. Whatever our spouses are doing or neglecting to do to and for us doesn’t have any control over us, our morality, our values, or our choices. As I said to my husband when he tried to shove the blame of his adultery on our relationship being distant: You could have said something. You could have sought help for us, you could have reached out. **I was in the same troubled marriage as you and had the same opportunities to cheat, but I made the choice to respect my vows. ** You see, NOTHING justifies the pain, shame, betrayal, and wound to my soul.There is NO excuse. If you’re unhappy, speak up! If you’re in danger, leave! Don’t throw away your integrity over sex or attention. It’s not worth that little.

My husband had emotional affairs over the years which he denied when confronted. The lies put distance between us and made it easier to do what came after. He had a one night stand with a stranger during a business trip, and several years later, he began an affair with the choir director at our former parish. It began as what he thought was her “harmless” flirting via text and email, within a few days, they were having sex in some parking lot in plain daylight. By hiding his emotional affairs and one night stand, he built a wall between us and he allowed outsiders to erode away his weakened resolve; his lack of boundaries let the affair begin. His LIES left us vulnerable to devastating choices and outside attack. He’d still be denying anything ever took place if that despicable woman hadn’t passed on an STD which he in turn gave to me. And still, he continued to lie, made up a cover story to obscure her part. His loyalty had switched from me, his wife, to that adulterous interloper. How is that right?

As we dealt in the aftermath, it was clear he was holding back. Our healing wouldn’t be real as long as he kept secrets and kept lying about what he’d done. Marriage and individual counseling, and Retrouvaille would be useless if he never told the truth. It’d be like building a house on top of quicksand. We didn’t make real progress until he made a full admission.

What unfaithful spouses need to realize is that there’s no easy way out of infidelity. You don’t get to make a unilateral choice that will undeniably affect your spouse’s life and then exert control over their life by withholding truth because you don’t want to pay the price of YOUR betrayal. By lying, you are essentially controlling and holding them hostage to YOUR will. You’ve already made one selfish choice, are you really going to make another?

There’s no guarantee your spouse will want to work through unbelievable pain towards forgiveness. It’s been 4 months for me, and still, some days I wish I was dead. I’m depressed and anxious, we’ve changed parishes to cut off contact with the adultery partner, and we have tremendously painful days to endure. But we’ve prayed our way through the worst of it. I made it out from the darkest moment I’ve ever experienced, and though I struggle daily to trust my husband and believe we will ultimately make it, I trust wholeheartedly in the Lord and His infinite mercy.

If you’re thinking of cheating, get help. If you’ve already committed adultery, get help. If like me, you find yourself in the midst of this terrible storm, get help. But please don’t lie, it will only keep you apart from your spouse, you will never heal, and you are making yourself vulnerable to an even worse fall in the future. There is nothing hidden in heaven or earth that our Father does not see, and in time, all shadows are brought to the light.

I pray for each of us, that we may be granted wisdom, strength, faith and love to make it through and do the right thing always according to God’s commandments.
 
My opinion? It depends on the spouses wisshes with respect to this kind of thing. I would be absolutely furious if someone cheated on me and didn’t tell me about it. There are some people, as you’ve seen in this thread, who would rather not know. I can understand not wanting to know if it was something that happened a long time ago and of which the guilty party has since repented and fixed. If it is a past sin that has actually been fixed and is no longer an issue in any respect in the marriage (as in both spouses are back to a fully loving and comitted relationship to each other) then it could cause more trouble than its worth to bring up something that is no longer an issue. If, however, it is something recent, I would feel betrayed by such a deception. Being secretive is much more damaging to a couples trust than doing evil but being honest and repentant about it. I would take the latter any day, even though it would be slightly more painful for a time it would certainly result in a better marriage.
Yes, exactly.

If your spouse has told you “if you ever do that, I don’t want to know”, then if you are the offender you are just going to have to handle your guilt and amendment yourself. The only exception is if you believe yourself too weak to stay faithful without telling. Marital fidelity is the work of both of you, and if you need help, you have to admit it and seek that help from your spouse.

If, on the other hand, your spouse has told you “if you ever did that, I want you to admit it to me”, then you don’t get to decide it would be better if your spouse didn’t know. Your spouse has the* right *to know.

Your spouse also has the right to change his or her mind at any time, whether you are suspected or not. It is no insult to be asked if you are faithful, provided you are not being accused (that is: falsely accused). The spouse has the right to ask that. (I hope it goes without saying that you may never lie to your spouse in the face of a direct question!)

If you have not been specifically told not to tell, then you ought to consult with your confessor, but you probably ought to tell. Your spouse has the right to know about an offense of that magnitude, and the rights that he or she might elect to exercise in light of that knowledge. I’m not going to go so far as to presume to make a rule for every case for all time, but as a general rule if you’re not told to keep infidelity a secret by either your spouse or your confessor, you probably have to tell in order to honor your spouse’s right to know.
 
Tell. The adulterer made the mistake, and as such has already wronged his/her spouse. It may do more harm than good temporarily, but the in the end the ‘victim’ would be very appreciative of the adulterer’s free-willed confession of unfaithful behavior as opposed to it being hidden, and then being found out.

God bless.
Nope… I was less than appreciative of my husbands confessions… and I have counseled several women who have been more greatly harmed by confessions than helped. Consult a professional about weather or not to tell. There are way to many issues for a group of strangers on line to have any idea.
 
Nope… I was less than appreciative of my husbands confessions… and I have counseled several women who have been more greatly harmed by confessions than helped. Consult a professional about weather or not to tell. There are way to many issues for a group of strangers on line to have any idea.
Yes. This is the kind of information to share with one’s confessor when trying to discern what to do in a specific case. It is the rights and welfare of the innocent spouse that have to be put first.

I have told my husband that unless it is the only way he thinks he can remain faithful, I do not want to know. If he were to betray me, it would be his burden to carry that load himself, if at all possible.
 
My opinion is to confess: not only in Church but to your spouse also! The fact that someone chose to break God’s law and commit adultery is not only sinful but also selfish. The person knew what was going to happen and let it! Flat out no excuse! Not telling their spouse is also a selfish act. For whatever caused one spouse to commit adultery unless worked on will cause them to act again. And to say that they are afraid because they do not know what their spouse will do or say - is cowardly, most people know what their spouse will do or say and they just do not want to face it. They did not care about their marriage or spouse while they were on thier way to be with another person. So now show some respect to your spouse and tell them.

As for not wanting to know that your spouse has no respect for God, God’s Laws, or themselves is a weak self-esteem issue in my view. Marriage vows state FORSAKING all other, not “as long as I do not know go out and commit as many affairs that you want.”

And for those that will also point out that marriage vows also state “until death do us part” – Matthew 19:9 states “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”
 
Here is a link to the Code of Canon Law, Canon 1152.

intratext.com/ixt/ENG0017/_P44.HTM

It reads as follows:

ARTICLE 2: SEPARATION WHILE THE BOND REMAINS

Can. 1151 Spouses have the obligation and the right to maintain their common conjugal life, unless a lawful reason excuses them.

Can. 1152 §1 It is earnestly recommended that a spouse, motivated by christian charity and solicitous for the good of the family, should not refuse to pardon an adulterous partner and should not sunder the conjugal life. Nevertheless, if that spouse has not either expressly or tacitly condoned the other’s fault, he or she has the right to sever the common conjugal life, provided he or she has not consented to the adultery, nor been the cause of it, nor also committed adultery.

This is quite clear that this is a right belonging to the injured spouse. By keeping it secret, the adulterous spouse has not only grievously wronged and betrayed the innocent spouse, but is wronging the innocent spouse further by robbing him or her of his right to decide whether or not to continue conjugal life.
Thanks for highlighting this. I, for one, wasn’t aware of this Canon Law.
 
To anyone who has been in the position of having to forgive a repentant spouse, or imagine themselves in that situation: Bear in mid that your situation could be infinitely worse, and that many people every day are put in that worse situation.

The infinitely worse situation is the the one of the adulterous spouse who is not repentant. The spouse who is thinking of “the marriage” (for by now they see their “marriage” as just a legal construct) is a lifetime of boredom and frustration while their new found Love is all they have ever wanted in life. All they are concerned about now is getting out of “the marriage” with least damage to themselves, their finances, their relationship with their children, etc…, and with getting on with their new life.

Don’t assume that because you have made lifetime vows, even Catholic vows, that the other one will consider themselves bound when this new Love beckons. Adultery is very, very exciting! And the adulterer (in this scenario) will not be saying, or thinking, that it’s all about the sex. They have found their “soul mate”! (They reason) It’s not really “adultery” to have sex with your “true” partner, and to fix a mistake which was made many years ago… This “new start” will be in the best interest of everyone!

Those of us who have been in that situation have looked into the future and have seen a lifetime alone and severe financial consequences, and have seen, most of all, the loss of our family and the heartbreak for our children. We know that the children’s lives will never recover from this.

Those of us who have been in that situation despair at our utter powerlessness over the adulterer’s decision. We argue, beg, and complain. We attempt serious serious reconciliation and offer to address every complaint of the adulterer - to no avail. We are denied the one thing we really want: the chance to forgive, and save our marriage and family.

So, I understand the anger and grief at having been betrayed, but don’t assume that you will even have the option of forgiving, and, if you do have that option, remember that many have been denied it, and they, and their children, carry the consequences for a lifetime.
 
And for those that will also point out that marriage vows also state “until death do us part” – Matthew 19:9 states “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”
That’s a very Protestant understanding of that scripture.
 
My opinion is to confess: not only in Church but to your spouse also! The fact that someone chose to break God’s law and commit adultery is not only sinful but also selfish. The person knew what was going to happen and let it! Flat out no excuse! Not telling their spouse is also a selfish act. For whatever caused one spouse to commit adultery unless worked on will cause them to act again. And to say that they are afraid because they do not know what their spouse will do or say - is cowardly, most people know what their spouse will do or say and they just do not want to face it. They did not care about their marriage or spouse while they were on thier way to be with another person. So now show some respect to your spouse and tell them.

As for not wanting to know that your spouse has no respect for God, God’s Laws, or themselves is a weak self-esteem issue in my view. Marriage vows state FORSAKING all other, not “as long as I do not know go out and commit as many affairs that you want.”

And for those that will also point out that marriage vows also state “until death do us part” – Matthew 19:9 states “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”
No one here is suggesting that an adulterer, even someone committing adultery on an emotional level or even someone coveting someone not their own spouse, ought to do anything whatsoever other than to renounce their sin totally and confess with a firm purpose of amendment, doing whatever is necessary to avoid the near occasion of repeating that betraying sin.

As for your contention that a person who does not want to know the failings of their spouse, why are you stopping at spouses? Why isn’t it a sign of “low self-esteem” that we all don’t believe we ought to have our brothers and sisters tell us every time they’ve bad-mouthed us behind our backs or been willing to listen to nasty gossip they’ve heard about us or to believe the worst about us or some other “secret” offense that touches us directly? Why is it “low self-esteem” to prefer to remain innocent of the wrong-doing, asking only that those who betray us secretly turn from their sin and amend themselves in the future?

And no, not everything that leads to adultery must have something to do with the innocent spouse or a flaw in the marriage. Sometimes, my friend, the innocent spouse is in fact entirely innocent. Sometimes people just want what they want when they want it, sometimes they lie to themselves about their marriage and their duties, and it doesn’t take a session with their spouse in marriage counseling for them to realize that. After all, even if you and your spouse need marriage counselling, that was no excuse to have an affair! Why would disclosing the affair be needed to address marital problems that would still have needed to be addressed had there been no infidelity?

No, sometimes, the offending spouse just needs to wake up and quit being so selfish. Hurting their spouses feelings by letting on about a sin that their spouse did not cause but might blame themselves for unjustly is not necessarily “showing respect”. Sometimes it is shifting the burden to someone who does not deserve it. When that is the case, there is everything right about not doing it. Sure, it can be cowardice or self-serving to not tell a spouse, and that is no reason for keeping the offense secret. If the sin is kept hidden, it must be in order to preserve the innocent spouse from some of the consequences of the sin, not to keep the offenders from the consequences of having their offenses known.

Why do I not want to know? I think it will be easier to put the matter behind us if he repents and amends on his own. Knowing him, it will be harder on him in some ways, easier in others. If he needs to tell me, that would be OK. Still, I don’t want to be afflicted with visions of him with someone else. It is bad enough to be betrayed the one time; I don’t need the offense on my mind on into the future. I don’t want to give the interloper that kind of mental real estate in my head. Put her out of my life, and keep her there.
 
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