Pup, I agree with all you said, but a DNR is not just for a hospital, you can also have one in a long term care facility, and hospice care.
Which is why i said “an out of hospital DNR”. The rules are exactly the same. Please reread my posts. I will say that when we say “out of hospital” we think “outside of a facility”.
Also, I didn’t make it very clear because I tend to think the way we think - for “hospital” insert “facility”. You can have a DNR pretty much anywhere, that is true. I’ve even had patients that have had them that cover them in their private homes. The links I posted cover all of those details.
Here’s where I said “out of hospital”:
A DNR can’t be overridden by the care team. If a DNR is not in place we can begin CPR. A DNR is only binding in the hospital and must be rewritten at every admission. There are out of hospital DNRs, though.
A DNR is binding for the facility or situation it is written in. (I see where I seem to say they’re hospital only, and you’re 100% correct - they’re not.) It can be revoked, but it can only last for the duration of that admission - meaning if you go into hospice and come out, your DNR must be rewritten (and yes, not everyone in hospice dies there).
So we don’t have to see DNR as giving up on a patient.
No, that’s not what that means.
A DNR is a
Do Not Resuscitate Order. It is an order to not start CPR. It is not comfort care. It is not necessarily even related to comfort care.
A DNR is NOT starting CPR if the patient goes into cardiac arrest. It is not the same as what you’re talking about.