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Ave Maria!
two questions: when do Eastern Catholics celebrate Advent and could you give me some links with videos/audio of your Advent chants (I only have Roman Catholic chant)
 
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henrikhank said:
Ave Maria!
two questions: when do Eastern Catholics celebrate Advent
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The Nativity Fast began for us with Vespers on the Feast of St. Philip the Apostle. Nov. 14. (For those on the Old Calendar that will be this Sunday night./Monday.)
See the recent thread here Advent in the Eastern Catholic Church
and could you give me some links with videos/audio of your Advent chants (I only have Roman Catholic chant)
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The Troparia and Kontakia, stichera etc. that we use in my parish can be found here.

Here is a section of Proceed, O Angelic Powers from the Nativity Prefeast.
 
Most EC parishes follow the same as Roman Calender so here it is today November 27th.
 
Stephentlig said:
Most EC parishes follow the same as Roman Calender so here it is today November 27th.
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Perhaps you would care to explain that ?

Not all EC Parishes use the Gregorian Calendar

The UGCC in Europe uses the Julian Calendar - so for them it is St Philip’s day today and the Nativity Fast known as Philip’s Fast now starts .
 
Stephentlig said:
Most EC parishes follow the same as Roman Calender so here it is today November 27th.
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What EC is this? Churches that follow the Byzantine Rite has a 40-day Advent, and thus would begin Advent on November 15.
 
The_Idiot said:
Perhaps you would care to explain that ?

Not all EC Parishes use the Gregorian Calendar

The UGCC in Europe uses the Julian Calendar - so for them it is St Philip’s day today and the Nativity Fast known as Philip’s Fast now starts .
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Whoops you’ll have to fill me in. I have no clue about calendars. All I know is that we follow the Julian but thought Julian was what we all followed here in Europe. So In Europe Advent for EC’s start today right? according to the Julian calendar? 🤷
 
Stephentlig said:
Whoops you’ll have to fill me in. I have no clue about calendars. All I know is that we follow the Julian but thought Julian was what we all followed here in Europe. So In Europe Advent for EC’s start today right? according to the Julian calendar? 🤷
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Well, then you are celebrating the Nativity on “January 7”, right? So that is surely not the same as the “Roman Calendar”. 🙂
 
I dunno:shrug:

I’m still getting used to this byzantine rite. 😃

Could someone just give me a direct link to the Julian Calender?
 
If you attend Fr Serge’s Memory eternal ! ] Church in Dublin you do indeed use the Julian Calendar and I’m sure that Fr Andriy mentioned the start of Philip’s Fast during the Liturgy yesterday .

Finding a Julian Calendar - now that’s not quite as easy . My current one is a big wall calendar from the Old Believers or a smaller one from St John of Kronstadt Press in the USA]
 
yes I attend but not as much as I live an hour away.

Yes I was told Julian but I thought the Julian calendar was something we all followed ( roman and byzantine ) in Europe.

Finding one will not be so easy as you say. But I guess I’ll get used to it.
 
Only and hour ??

Basically if you add 13 days onto the Gregorian civil Calendar ] you won’t go far wrong .

BUT ECs d celebrate some different Feasts
 
The_Idiot said:
Only and hour ??

Basically if you add 13 days onto the Gregorian civil Calendar ] you won’t go far wrong .

BUT ECs d celebrate some different Feasts
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Yes, the hour is difficult for us because we didnt have a car until recently. and until we pass our official test we are bound to driving within town and not allowed on the motor way until the Learner plates are taken off. Story of our lives!!! lol. So for special feasts/occasions if I can somehow persuade my father to drive us he will. But it is never always the case.
 
Stephentlig said:
I dunno:shrug:

I’m still getting used to this byzantine rite. 😃

Could someone just give me a direct link to the Julian Calender?
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Is the calendar on your parish website somewhere?

I don’t know if this will help but the ROCOR Cathedral here is on the Julian and they post the calendar each month, current and upcoming months, on their website here: Holy Virgin Cathedral, home page, in the left margin.

Maybe you can check with your priest or some parishioners about getting a wall calendar. In my parish, and the OCA parish I also go to, we are given this “Lectionary Wall Calendar” at this time of year. This is the “revised Julian” which is what we follow. We just got them for 2012.

Hopefully your parish can provide you a similar wall calendar. one that matches what you follow in your parish, or tell you where you can get . I rely heavily on the wall calendar we are given. Ours also has names of the saints for each day, the citations for the scripture readings for the day, etc. and of course all the fasting notations. Even though our parish has a calendar on our website with the fasts and the feasts it is not as detailed nor is it for the full year. I really like having the full 12 months together, being about to look back and ahead.

I also have a wall calendar from my Latin Church since those feast days are typically different ones. I work as a catechist in a Latin Church and I like try to keep the liturgical calendar in their minds, and to bring up “minor” feast days, in addition to of course the big ones that will appear in that parish bulletin. Here in the US at least all Latin parishes give out these wall calendars to parishioners at the end of each year, which provide the feasts, solemnities, memorials etc that the Latin Church follows.

I’ve been at the Orthodox Christian Fellowship on a Feast Day for their Tu eve DL on the new calendar and the Metropolitan, when he is there which is often, will mention that those on the old calendar will be celebrating on X future date, something I do appreciate him making note of.

So… anyway, I do encourage you to see if your parish gives out or sells such wall calendars, or if they know where you can get one. I would be lost without mine. I actually have one here at the computer and another one upstairs by my bed. 🙂
 
Stephentlig said:
The Calendar is all in Russian? :confused:
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The Holy Virgin Cathedral link I gave you? The Cathedral website is in both Russian and English. 🙂 Did you open the Calendar pdf?

(Or do you mean your parish calendar is all in Russian?)

If you ask around your parish, your priest, find that you cannot obtain a 2012 wall calendar appropriate for Orthodox/EC on the Old Calendar PM me and I will see if I can get one at Holy Virgin to mail to you. I hope that your parish does have this resource for you. If you can’t get there in the next weeks because of transportation issues, ask themto save a copy for you for your next trip there. Maybe someone else here or on Byzcath can help you with this, 🙂
 
St. Lawrence Orthodox near here has a combo version on their website, which for me takes some getting used to, shows both old and new dates (in parenthesis) on the same calendar. If you can make sense of it, then it might be helpful for you also. 😃
 
ConstantineTG said:
What EC is this? Churches that follow the Byzantine Rite has a 40-day Advent, and thus would begin Advent on November 15.
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That is when we started this last Sunday was our third Sunday and the Latin’s first.
 
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