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JoeyWarren
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I have considered dropping by their church on Saturday and leaving some tracts on winshields…
How many are not exactly secure and zealous where a subtle tract could lead to some doubt?
How many are not exactly secure and zealous where a subtle tract could lead to some doubt?
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goitalone
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Yeah real Christian like statement there kid.SDA?
Satan’s Demonic Army!
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6YRSHOME
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Which ones? I know that they would dismiss anything that promoted the Catholic or any other church for that matter. What would be better is to get them asking questions about adventism. Present things in a way which makes them wonder or even upset. Upset enough to want to prove us wrong and Ellen White right, which is something they can’t do.
Of course, it would only work on those who are truly honest and able to recognize the truth when they see it.
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goitalone
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Seems real Christian of you too there 6.
And they have already seen the truth, so you can just keep your false ideas and doctorines to yerself…sound good?
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VWcrazy
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They have seen the truth??? LOL! These are the folks who follow a false prophet and her false teachings!
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cestusdei
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go, it is the sda’s that offend us. Your whole faith is based on hatred of Catholicism. How about you leave us alone?
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JoeyWarren
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If I did distribute a tract, it would be one of my creation. There would be no mention of catholicity, just subtle usage of scripture…
I could throw in some scripture right after this
Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
such as this:
1Co 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
and
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
As god gave man authority over the woman, God gave man the same authority over the Sabbath.
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6YRSHOME
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It is christian to want to bring truth to our brothers and sisters in Christ. Its called evangalization.
And although Adventist have some truth, they also have much that is false, namely Ellen G. White. She has been proven wrong on many levels. I have personally researched some of her statements, and found them to be false when compared with common sources.
If you believe in Adventist doctrine, that’s your choice but if there are those who have questions or doubts I am not going to stand silent. I am obligated to share my knowledge with anyone seeking the truth.
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Mommyof02green
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If the shoe fits…
Seriously, Charlie (goitalone) isn’t that why you are here at CAF and posting.
Trying to help us, make us question our faith and the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Anyway, this thread is interesting because this is the first I’ve heard of Adventist passing out literature, movies etc. Where I’m at the only ones that come knocking or pass out things are JW…
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Maria1212
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This discussion reminds me of the saying that “The best offense is a good defense.” We as Catholics have a personal obligation to make sure we know and study our faith so we are able to defend it. I am a “cradle Catholic,” and while I never left the Church, I realized I needed to be able to explain to others some of the things that I accept as true. In that sense I have had a strong reversion and renewal to the Catholic faith. The more I study it, the stronger I become in faith, and the more I love my Catholic faith. Adventists do have part of the truth, and I admire their devotion to that truth.
But as Catholics, we have the whole truth, and need to share it with others. The truth speaks for itself. It is very easy to discredit Ellen White and many of her teachings, as well as many other Adventist teachings (such as their official teaching on abortion, which clearly violates God`s commandment "Thou shall not kill.). Many others have already done this (highlighted the errors of Ellen White and Adventist doctrine in general).
What I think needs improvement, is Catholic responses to Adventists questions, and evangelic material that counters their false teachings on Catholicism. Thus, we need Catholic materials that correct their misunderstands about Catholicism. We also need materials that charitably explain why some of their teachings are not correct. And we need to respond, again in a charitable way, when they make claims about the Catholic faith that are not accurate.
Charitable and passive are not the same thing. We as a Church need to fight back strongly, but do so in a loving way. I am still searching for the best way to do this.
Some Adventists are overtly lying and willingly act in a deceitful manner. But most have sincere hearts, and are simply trying to bring others to Christ. But we as Catholics, need to show others the whole truth that can only be found in the Catholic Church. That is our duty. We have such a precious gift and are so blessed to be called to Catholicism, and we need to share this with others.
Since this is a Catholic Forum, we have the expectation of being able to discuss our faith freely with each other and not have it attacked by others. We have a right to be angry when others spread lies about the Catholic faith. And we have a duty to respond. But at the same time, we still need to be gracious toward others. Jesus taught us to love our enemies and to pray for them. This extends to enemies of Catholicism as well.
Sincerely,
Maria1212
But as Catholics, we have the whole truth, and need to share it with others. The truth speaks for itself. It is very easy to discredit Ellen White and many of her teachings, as well as many other Adventist teachings (such as their official teaching on abortion, which clearly violates God`s commandment "Thou shall not kill.). Many others have already done this (highlighted the errors of Ellen White and Adventist doctrine in general).
What I think needs improvement, is Catholic responses to Adventists questions, and evangelic material that counters their false teachings on Catholicism. Thus, we need Catholic materials that correct their misunderstands about Catholicism. We also need materials that charitably explain why some of their teachings are not correct. And we need to respond, again in a charitable way, when they make claims about the Catholic faith that are not accurate.
Charitable and passive are not the same thing. We as a Church need to fight back strongly, but do so in a loving way. I am still searching for the best way to do this.
Some Adventists are overtly lying and willingly act in a deceitful manner. But most have sincere hearts, and are simply trying to bring others to Christ. But we as Catholics, need to show others the whole truth that can only be found in the Catholic Church. That is our duty. We have such a precious gift and are so blessed to be called to Catholicism, and we need to share this with others.
Since this is a Catholic Forum, we have the expectation of being able to discuss our faith freely with each other and not have it attacked by others. We have a right to be angry when others spread lies about the Catholic faith. And we have a duty to respond. But at the same time, we still need to be gracious toward others. Jesus taught us to love our enemies and to pray for them. This extends to enemies of Catholicism as well.
Sincerely,
Maria1212
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JoeyWarren
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Youtube is being proliferated with stuff. Some of the same stuff is being put out there with different titles to trick you in to watching it.
Tricks…a tool of the dark lord…
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Mommyof02green
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I’ve been aware of that. There are all kinds of things out there in “internet land”. However, I wasn’t ware that they actually went door-to-door handing out “hard copies” of the stuff.
I saw the one thread earlier where an Adventist walked into a place of business try to sell literature and movies. (i.e. traveling sales person)
However, even that is different then just going door to door and just handing out the literature/movies.
Again, the only ones that I was aware that went door-to-door were the JW…
Then again this could just be my location.
I’m aware of 3 JW locations in my area…
I’ve never have seen a Seventh-day Adventist building in my area. The one that I’m aware of is several towns to the East and is at least an hour drive away.
oh and Mormons go door-to-door…
We had them come to our door as a child growing up…
However as an adult I’ve never seen them at my door.
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JoeyWarren
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growing trend?
Acts of Desperation?
Acts of Desperation?
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6YRSHOME
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They are very sublte in their tatics. Sometimes a group of them will send out mass mailings of tracts. I recieved one of these about ten years ago from amazing facts. I read almost the whole thing before I realized it was Adventist popaganda and I was raised in that church.
They don’t really go door to door except around Christmas time, I forget what they call it, but they ask for donations for their charities and will pass out their liturature.
Their biggest form of evangelization is their “Revelation Seminars” where they have a whole series of meeting presenting their doctrine. Its usually very benign and well prestented. It’s not until very late in the series that they reveal some of their more unique beliefs.
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Sixtus
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The Mark of the Beast [SDA TAKE NOTE] is actually the 'formula for life
Carbon atoms have 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons so they are 666
All living matter is composed of and dependent upon carbon
Carbon atoms have 6 protons, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons so they are 666
All living matter is composed of and dependent upon carbon
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Sixtus
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The SDA have put their money where their mouth is
I think you hae to admire them for that.
They have issued a statement in ‘Worlds Last Chance’. It will prove them either 100% right or 100% wrong!!
That takes real courage. You have to admire them
They have said that the present Pontiff Pope Benedict is the last Pope. The next one will be a reincarnation of JP2. But it will not really be him but satan copying him to lead the world astray’!
See ‘Goss World Last Chance’!
Only time will tell.
I think you hae to admire them for that.
They have issued a statement in ‘Worlds Last Chance’. It will prove them either 100% right or 100% wrong!!
That takes real courage. You have to admire them
They have said that the present Pontiff Pope Benedict is the last Pope. The next one will be a reincarnation of JP2. But it will not really be him but satan copying him to lead the world astray’!
See ‘Goss World Last Chance’!
Only time will tell.
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Maria1212
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Sixtus;2025757 said:
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JoeyWarren
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Yes I saw this as well, some where yesterday.
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Sixtus
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Maria 1212
Hi Maria
I have asked them not to email me but still they do. I had two from them [they always seem to send them in duplicate] and I deleted both only a few hours ago. As my trash bin was quite ful, emptied that too!
So sorry, no I can no longer quote their source, but it is to be found on U-tube, under ‘worlds last chance’. But I must warn you, it is very offensive stuff.
Next time they email me I will quote their source.
It is contained in a small paragraph where they talk about the millions of dissenting bible believers we are alleged to have killed in or around the 4th century. Of course I cannot find any reference to this alleged atrocity. But then I am very suspicious of all they send me.
Hi Maria
I have asked them not to email me but still they do. I had two from them [they always seem to send them in duplicate] and I deleted both only a few hours ago. As my trash bin was quite ful, emptied that too!
So sorry, no I can no longer quote their source, but it is to be found on U-tube, under ‘worlds last chance’. But I must warn you, it is very offensive stuff.
Next time they email me I will quote their source.
It is contained in a small paragraph where they talk about the millions of dissenting bible believers we are alleged to have killed in or around the 4th century. Of course I cannot find any reference to this alleged atrocity. But then I am very suspicious of all they send me.
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