Advice about my Wiccan vampire friend

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Hey everyone! I have a friend who I met at a retreat a few years ago. We’ve only met twice since the retreat, yet she loves to talk to me at weekends on the phone. She used to be really devoutly Catholic, but over the past year or so, she’s left the Church, become Wiccan, discovered she’s a vampire and a lesbian (or possibly bisexual). She believes that being open-minded is a great thing and so do I…to a point. She has a load of friends with different beliefs, some of whom share the same beliefs as she. I think she was hanging out with most of them before her changes.

I’m going to sound really horrible now and confess that I often get quite cross (even angry) when she texts to ask if we can talk. The poor girl has a lot of problems, particularly with her family, and she talks about these frequently (though not as much as of late). I find it difficult to shoulder her sorrows and frustrations with her and I’ve even introduced her to another friend of mine to try and lessen the calls. I feel more like a counsellor than a friend.

What I find worse is the fact that she has changed so much and I am worried for her soul. I’ve tried to explain myself a little (without saying outright that I am extremely dissappointed and also worried that she has left the faith or that I believe that practicing magic, vampirism or having lesbian relationships is wrong or disordered). I pray for her nearly every day.

What should I do?

God bless. (I feel rather hypocritical saying that now. 😦 )
 
For the lesbianism - please check out www.couragerc.net

The wiccan stuff - it does seem to attract women with self esteem issues. Prayer to St. Michael for here and talking to here about Catholic spirituality is my suggestion.

The vampire thing, how do you tell someone they think they are a make believe thing? Can’t help you there. Pray for maturity and deliverance.
 
I saw a documentary on I think it was the Biography channel (but could have been National Geo or Discovery) about modern day vampires. They don’t think they are the undead/Dracula type. They do have a sensitivity to sunlight and they crave blood - I got the impression there was quite a little underground society of these folks. They don’t bite people, though one couple shared each other’s blood. Most just eat a lot of rare red meat.
 
Pray for them. I am a teacher and SEVERAL of my students are into this. Many, much more than I thought, were into the vampire stuff. Its very scary to me because several of them can be very violent people. Honestly, and I may be going a bit old school Catholic (or even Pentecostal!🙂 ) here but I honestly think that there is a demonic influence in this stuff. I happened to walk up on one of the kids on one of the “vampire” websites and it was scary. In my opinion, this stuff is 10 times more dangerous than them getting into drugs or alcohol. This is much more appealing to many of them. A lot of people are into it that you wouldn’t even think of. Praying is the best thing you can do. You might also consider just having a good natured and not argumentative discussion concerning beliefs and why your friend decided to turn to these things.
 
I think you should calmly and clearly tell her that you think what she is doing is wrong, that her soul is in jeopardy and that you have 2000 years of Christianity on your side.

A simple proposition: How many lesbian, vampire witches do you think are in Heaven?

That’s a triple-wammy of evil pursuits right there. Underneath the exotic names: demonic influence.

My opinion: these people think they’re being glamourous and spooky, but a devil is laughing at their folly, egging them on i.e. “Look at what I got these mortal fools to do now. See how they debase themselves.”

I think we tread a little too carefully around people’s ‘lifestyle choices’ these days. We’re doing a lot of thing our forefathers considered evil, in the name of ‘freedom’.

The key is to remain calm and tell her the truth as you perceive it. Getting angry gives the other person an excuse to reject what you’re saying.
 
nahbios said:
Hey everyone! I have a friend who I met at a retreat a few years ago. We’ve only met twice since the retreat, yet she loves to talk to me at weekends on the phone. She used to be really devoutly Catholic, but over the past year or so, she’s left the Church, become Wiccan, discovered she’s a vampire and a lesbian (or possibly bisexual). She believes that being open-minded is a great thing and so do I…to a point. She has a load of friends with different beliefs, some of whom share the same beliefs as she. I think she was hanging out with most of them before her changes.

I’m going to sound really horrible now and confess that I often get quite cross (even angry) when she texts to ask if we can talk. The poor girl has a lot of problems, particularly with her family, and she talks about these frequently (though not as much as of late). I find it difficult to shoulder her sorrows and frustrations with her and I’ve even introduced her to another friend of mine to try and lessen the calls. I feel more like a counsellor than a friend.

What I find worse is the fact that she has changed so much and I am worried for her soul. I’ve tried to explain myself a little (without saying outright that I am extremely dissappointed and also worried that she has left the faith or that I believe that practicing magic, vampirism or having lesbian relationships is wrong or disordered). I pray for her nearly every day.

What should I do?

God bless. (I feel rather hypocritical saying that now. 😦 )
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Pray for her. Let her know you’re praying for her, and tell her she needs to seek profeesional help, both psychological and spiritual.

Until then, you’re probably best off avoiding her, lest she become a corrupting influence on you.

God Bless
 
🙂 Prayer is the best tool in this situation. Before reading your whole thread I knew that she came from an unstable or destabilizing family and that she is looking for something to fill that void. I regret to have had a friend who was involved in that junk(vampire stuff). After she tried biting me I ended it; granted I was nice, but still ended it. I wanted to be the friend she needed and tried to save her from that stuff, but it just didn’t work out that way. Her family setting was terrible. Father was terrible and mother was screw up from what I heard. Makes me very thankful to come from the family I do. Anyways aside from helping come back to the faith I’d just pray for her.
 
I’ve found through some very reliable media sources based out of Hollywood that you can do a number of things…

1.Stab in heart with wooden steak
2. Splash with Holy Water
3. Present a Crucifix

…The best thing to do would probably be just to pray for her though. Never underestimate the power of prayer!
 
This is probably not going to be helpful, but sometimes I wonder if those who believe they are vampires are actually hungry for the Body and Blood of Christ.

Most likely the devil has a grasp on these people and is laughing with joy because he will have another soul to add to his collection. What would happen if you squirted some Holy Water into her ice tea? 😃

Maybe try that, and pray for her.
 
Hey, I’m not religious but came across your post completely by chance (after Google-ing “vampires” after seeing a great horror movie!).

Like you, I am tolerant of others beliefs and consider myself open minded.

But honestly, I think your friend may be mentally ill or just deeply disturbed. It’s sweet of you to want to help, but listening to her go on and on about her problems isn’t a basis for a healthy friendship. It sounds like she’s using you as an emotional tampon. That’s really not fair to you. It must be exhausting.

Maybe distancing yourself from her is the best thing you can do. Not out of malice, of course. But you have a life and don’t need to have your spirit sapped by an “energy-vampire”.

Good luck!
 
Kage_ar, Swan, AngelRose81, Layman, bilop, stringbeanduck, dg5887, flatlanderjenn, Gymbo (welcome to CAF and thank you for taking the time to write! 😉 ): thank you all for your advice and comments!!

Just to clarify one thing: the one time I showed my frustration was through a letter in January before she became a vampire and discovered she was a lesbian. I felt guilty afterwards though and things went back to normal. I have not shown her the full extent of my frustration, nor have I gotten verbally angry with her over the phone. (I generally hate confrontation.) I usually just sound weary when I’m talking to her.

The main thing that I gathered from your advice was prayer. That I’m continuing: thank you for the support. I believe I just need to be more patient…thinking of St. Monica’s thirty years of prayers for her son!! 😉

Layman, I read someone’s signature somewhere on this forum that says something like “Don’t be so open-minded that your brains fall out”. That might seem like an extreme way of putting it but I agree with it in prinicpal and with you. The idea of “choice” has been warped to encompass many things that some people consider harmless but which are spiritually and psychologically dangerous.

Swan, AngelRose81, thanks for your contributions on the numbers. Yeah, it’s frightening how many people follow the sub-culture. I admire your values in the classroom, AngelRose: it must be very difficult to express them without being on the receiving end of prejudice and/or ridicule. I pray the students receive God’s Mercy and Saving Grace, particularly of course the grace of Faith, so they might turn away from the dark subculture which they follow.

stringbeanduck, thanks for sharing your personal experience. You said it: my friend often reminds me of how God has blessed me with a wonderfully loving family to whom I am very close.

Bilop and Gymbo, I have been putting off her calls politely, saying I have a lot of work (which I do) and that I’ll call her around Christmas. Please God I’ll use this time well. :o

dg5887 and flatlanderjenn, apart from your humourous advice, thanks for the real advice. 😉

kage_ar, thank you for your specific advice to each problem and particularly for that website reference. I’ve had a look at two of the testimonials and I greatly admire the courage and commitment of those with a homosexual orientation who strive to live chastely for Christ.

I’ll try and update you with any changes as they happen. 👍

Slán agus Beannacht Dé! 👋
 
nahbios said:
… I find it difficult to shoulder her sorrows and frustrations with her and I’ve even introduced her to another friend of mine to try and lessen the calls. I feel more like a counsellor than a friend…
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It am quite sure that it is very hard to shoulder her sorrows. It can be painful, boring, and annoying. It is obvious that you feel like a counselor! Friends and counselors do the same thing, the first because of love and the latter because of money. Try to stick around as much as you can. When you need a time out you just tell her that you need a pause because it is very emotional for you too.
 
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What should I do?
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Really? You have to ask?

Walk away. You are not responsible for this gals lapse in common sense or for setting her straight. She sounds a mess and completely incompetent to discern open-mindedness from gullibility. Do you really need folks like that in your circle of friends?

p.s. if all else fails…keep a garlic necklace on…works like a charm!
 
Thanks to Christiano and Island Oak for their responses.

This is an overdue update on the situation. The other friend whom I have put in touch with my Wiccan friend gets on with her like a house on fire from what I hear. And for that, I’m glad. However…another problem has cropped up, and again, it’s to do with the supernatural. The friend from college who I introduced to my Wiccan friend said long before I’d introduced her that she was telepathic and telekenetic. So does my Wiccan friend. They practice using this gift and it’s worked up to the two of them contacting one another through telepathy. (I should point out that they have never met and they live over a hundred miles away from one another.) My Wiccan friend has also asked my other friend for advice on predictions.

In connection with this, my college friend (whom I see almost every week day) has a major crush on this guy who she says has predicted events accurately in the past. He’s a sort of clairvoyant from what I hear, and he’s a little younger than us. He and the girls have apparently had telepathic conversations.

I feel bad saying this, since this was told me in confidence…but I just want to ask for help. I’m worried about the two of them. Whether or not these paranormal occurances are taking place, this is dangerous territory. (My gut tells me that it is happening, and that makes me quite scared.)

Thanks. :o
 
I usually don’t like it when somebody suggests I read a book, but I’m gonna suggest that you buy your friend a copy of “The Screwtape Letters” by CS Lewis. She’ll probably enjoy it.
 
Pray and FAST. There is nothing else you need to do. Place it in God’s hands and you can’t fail!👍
 
Thanks, masuwerte - I heard of that book before, and have just done a quick check on Wikipedia to remind myself about it. Very good idea…must look into that for both of the girls!!

And to dg5887: thanks for your further advice and encouragement - I’ll do that. 🙂
 
nahbios said:
Hey everyone! I have a friend who I met at a retreat a few years ago. We’ve only met twice since the retreat, yet she loves to talk to me at weekends on the phone. She used to be really devoutly Catholic, but over the past year or so, she’s left the Church, become Wiccan, discovered she’s a vampire and a lesbian (or possibly bisexual). She believes that being open-minded is a great thing and so do I…to a point. She has a load of friends with different beliefs, some of whom share the same beliefs as she. I think she was hanging out with most of them before her changes.

I’m going to sound really horrible now and confess that I often get quite cross (even angry) when she texts to ask if we can talk. The poor girl has a lot of problems, particularly with her family, and she talks about these frequently (though not as much as of late). I find it difficult to shoulder her sorrows and frustrations with her and I’ve even introduced her to another friend of mine to try and lessen the calls. I feel more like a counsellor than a friend.

What I find worse is the fact that she has changed so much and I am worried for her soul. I’ve tried to explain myself a little (without saying outright that I am extremely dissappointed and also worried that she has left the faith or that I believe that practicing magic, vampirism or having lesbian relationships is wrong or disordered). I pray for her nearly every day.

What should I do?

God bless. (I feel rather hypocritical saying that now. 😦 )
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Steer clear of her and PRAY for her.
 
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