Advice on Exploring Other Denominations

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The LC-MS can be sort of a paradox, we have a strong law, but a strong gospel, and it can show up in interesting ways.

If were were face to face, I would love to tell you my encounters with very conservative Catholic churches in France.
If we were face to face we could compare the US to France. 🙂 God bless you on your journey and peace be with you.
 
Do…and as you do learn to hold the tension between “Don’t” and “Do”…in that tension you will find the true meaning of the Cross.
Since there is not two versions of the truth there is no need whatsoever for any “tension”. The True meaning of the Cross was entrusted to the Catholic Church. Why go searching for the Truth when you already have it? Why should anyone who has the “truth” be interested in a watered down version?
 
Why should anyone who has the “truth” be interested in a watered down version?
For the same reason that traveler will often appreciate their home much more after visiting another country.
 
For the same reason that traveler will often appreciate their home much more after visiting another country.
On the same principle a woman should have multiple affairs in order to appreciate her husband that much more? Genius! Every marriage counsellor should advocate adultery to every couple in crisis!

We know what God taught the Israelites about not practicing their faith to the fullest (ie being slack about obeying the commandments - and not only the Ten either). He was just as harsh on the unfaithful as on the outright idolatrous who openly worshipped other gods.
 
=estesbob;9913649]Since there is not two versions of the truth there is no need whatsoever for any “tension”. The True meaning of the Cross was entrusted to the Catholic Church. Why go searching for the Truth when you already have it? Why should anyone who has the “truth” be interested in a watered down version?
MY GREAT iRISH GRANDPA USED TO SAY::irish2:

"WHEN YOU LOOK FOR TROUBLE YOUR VERY LIKELY TO FIND IT:amen:

gOD bLESS,
Patrick /PJM
 
Bob and Lily,

Would you really go as far as compare this to having an adulterous affair with my spouse? (That is if I had a spouse, ;)) I’m still very unsure if I will actually go to the LCMS service, now that I think about it, I honestly don’t think I have actually ever even been inside any church other than a Catholic church. I take this stuff seriously, and don’t want to commit a grave sin, so honest advice is appreciated.
 
I should also mention that this may have something to do with some discontent I have with my current parish. I moved to a new area and joined the local parish, and although I really like the priest personally … the liturgies, music, and the preaching at this parish are really not as “orthodox” as I am used to. The beauty of the liturgies and preaching were essential for me returning to the Church in my college years, so going to a parish that leans heavy on acoustic guitar and will rarely use a hymn written before 1975 is a little bit of an adjustment.
 
Since there is not two versions of the truth there is no need whatsoever for any “tension”. The True meaning of the Cross was entrusted to the Catholic Church. Why go searching for the Truth when you already have it? Why should anyone who has the “truth” be interested in a watered down version?
Why? Because Western “truth” is cheap. Some small shred of “truth” exists in every “-ism”. Folks around here tend to give Luther too much credit. He did not invent protestant denominational-ism, he merely popularized it.

The deposit of Christian Faith (including the true meaning of the Cross) was handed down - once and for all - to one, holy, catholic and apostolic church (lowercase intended). Find THAT church, and THOSE teachings, and you will find the Truth. “Christian” communities that deviate from those teachings and beliefs are protestant, regardless what they choose to call themselves.

Why should anyone who has a watered down version be interested in authentic Christian Truth?

For the glory of God. Nothing less.

'Sakya
 
I attened Protestant bible studies and identify myself as a catholic for the express point of spreading the good news of the catholic teachings.

Before I came home to the catholic church I attened many Protestant Churches its all incomplete, the catholic church is like the complete thanksgiving meal and all of Protestantism is like cold left overs after the football games are over
 
On the same principle a woman should have multiple affairs in order to appreciate her husband that much more? Genius! Every marriage counsellor should advocate adultery to every couple in crisis!
Oh good grief, do you really think I would advocate that?

If you going to espouse such horrid ideas, please put those words in your own mouth and not mine.
 
I should also mention that this may have something to do with some discontent I have with my current parish.
In that case, I would not recommend visiting another church. I’d recommend working within your own faith to find what you’re looking for - perhaps there’s an Eastern Catholic parish near you for example.
 
Bob and Lily,

Would you really go as far as compare this to having an adulterous affair with my spouse? (That is if I had a spouse, ;)) I’m still very unsure if I will actually go to the LCMS service, now that I think about it, I honestly don’t think I have actually ever even been inside any church other than a Catholic church. I take this stuff seriously, and don’t want to commit a grave sin, so honest advice is appreciated.
I can see nothing good coming out of going to services at a a non -Catholic Church.
 
Why? Because Western “truth” is cheap. Some small shred of “truth” exists in every “-ism”. Folks around here tend to give Luther too much credit. He did not invent protestant denominational-ism, he merely popularized it.

The deposit of Christian Faith (including the true meaning of the Cross) was handed down - once and for all - to one, holy, catholic and apostolic church (lowercase intended). Find THAT church, and THOSE teachings, and you will find the Truth. “Christian” communities that deviate from those teachings and beliefs are protestant, regardless what they choose to call themselves.

Why should anyone who has a watered down version be interested in authentic Christian Truth?

For the glory of God. Nothing less.

'Sakya
Their nothing cheap or. "Western " about the Truth Christ entrusted to Cathoilc Church.
 
Their nothing cheap or. "Western " about the Truth Christ entrusted to Cathoilc Church.
Certainly not. That’s my point. Christ’s ministry was based in the Middle East. He hand-picked His Apostles from among ordinary commoners of that region. After Pentecost, His Church was initially established there, quickly spread to Asia Minor, Egypt, North Africa, and eventually on to Western Europe and beyond.

The infection of denominational protestantism attacked the Western Church five centuries after Rome separated itself from the Apostolic Churches of the East.

'Sakya
 
Certainly not. That’s my point. Christ’s ministry was based in the Middle East. He hand-picked His Apostles from among ordinary commoners of that region. After Pentecost, His Church was initially established there, quickly spread to Asia Minor, Egypt, North Africa, and eventually on to Western Europe and beyond.

The infection of denominational protestantism attacked the Western Church five centuries after Rome separated itself from the Apostolic Churches of the East.

'Sakya
There are numerous threats concerning just whom left whom when the east split from the west but it is totally irrelevant to this discussion.
 
=briguy16;9914505]I should also mention that this may have something to do with some discontent I have with my current parish. I moved to a new area and joined the local parish, and although I really like the priest personally … the liturgies, music, and the preaching at this parish are really not as “orthodox” as I am used to. The beauty of the liturgies and preaching were essential for me returning to the Church in my college years, so going to a parish that leans heavy on acoustic guitar and will rarely use a hymn written before 1975 is a little bit of an adjustment.
Dear freind in Christ,

Yout attitude has become rather commonplace; but by friend is misplaced.

Mass is not about how 'We feel". MAny Saints and holy people have gone for extended period of times feeling "unconnected to God’s Love and grace.

While OUR feelings do make Divine Worship easier; Mass nevertheless is about God:thumbsup: We are there in gratitude to give Him tnaks, Worship and praise.

If it’s a possibility seek another parish. If not; accept as the Cross Christ has designed for you.

God Bless,
Pat/ PJM
 
I can see nothing good coming out of going to services at a a non -Catholic Church.
The great mystics and Saints of the Catholic church have long valued the wisdom and revelations from all of the worlds great wisdom traditions. Thomas Merton, for example, was a huge advocate of Buddhist wisdom teachings. Many need to walk outside the Catholic tradition to fully understand the depth and meaning of the Perennial Tradition.
 
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