Advice : Restoration of The Latin Mass

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Francie3 said:
What would be wonderful would be restoration of the Mass to the language in which our beloved Savior instituted it…in Aramaic. That would be awesome
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That is available if you have a Maronite Rite church nearby. Luckily, we have one in Portland.
 
willie_duggan said:
I am looking to get some advice from Traditionalists with regard to the restoration of the Latin Mass (TLM) in their parish church.

Through various meetings of parishioners a group of us have discerned the desire among several dozen parishioners to attend TLM weekly in our parish.
However, since the late 1960’s, TLM has not been performed in any church in our parish or in neighbouring parishes.

What I am seeking is advice on what is the best way to attempt to restore TLM from folk here.

Have any of you sought and obtained the restoration of TLM in your parish?
How did you go about getting TLM restored?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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I highlighted a very important point.

If the group is comprised of some active parish members the best course of action is to approach your pastor and let him know your spiritual needs. Having known parishioners to a pastor may be the most important detail to begin.
 
tawny said:
In my area we have formed a local chapter of the NY Latin Liturgy Association. One of our Catholic elementery schools is teaching students the Trinitine Latin Mass so they may become the alter servers knowing the rubrics and correct responses. We have a Trinitine Latin Mass once a month. We currently have one priest versed in the Mass with another in training. The idea is to keep the young ones involved so they learn and appreciatec the beauty of the Trinitine Latin Mass.
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👍

Thank you very much for your reply.

It is really encouraging to read about parishes in other dioceses coming together to re-commence TLM.
 
PaulfromIowa said:
You should ask all of your local clergy, including retired priests, if they have advice for you and if they are able and willing to say the Traditional Latin Mass. You are correct that many recently ordained priests know almost no Latin and may have never even seen a Latin Mass. You really should have more than one priest because one will not be available every Sunday.
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Thank you for your reply.

We’re fortunate in our parish to have a seminary for a missionary order. Annexed to the seminary is a retirement home for priests of that order, housing men formed in the V1 era.

I’ll refer your wise suggestion to our group to make tentative enquiries to see if any of these men are disposed to celebrate TLM rite.
 
M-Dent said:
I highlighted a very important point.

If the group is comprised of some active parish members the best course of action is to approach your pastor and let him know your spiritual needs. Having known parishioners to a pastor may be the most important detail to begin.
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Sound advice. Thanks.
 
I encourage the OP to persist. In a parish near me, some derided the attempt at a restoration, until – wait – the church was fuller at the Latin Sunday Mass than the English :hmmm: And immediately thereafter there were daily weekday Latin Masses as well, and still are…
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Many of the faithful who live in rural areas or fly over country travel more than 40 miles to attend TLM. I think the “several dozen” of you should pick a date and just go. Maybe select a mass that coincides with a social event at the Latin mass parish, and attend that as well. The people there would welcome your group with open arms. It would be an awesome experience.

Keep going there as much as possible and get to know the priests, and let them know that your area is in need of a Latin mass parish. If he belongs to an order that is devoted to the Latin Mass they would work to get something in your town, if it makes sense, instead of rattling off the list of “gotcha questions” designed to squash your dreams, as listed by a prior member on this thread.
 
Francie3 said:
What would be wonderful would be restoration of the Mass to the language in which our beloved Savior instituted it…in Aramaic. That would be awesome
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This was the vernacular for Jesus, so in a way the Mass in the vernacular is the oldest of traditions.
 
Tom_Baum said:
This was the vernacular for Jesus, so in a way the Mass in the vernacular is the oldest of traditions.
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But Christ Himself worshipped in Hebrew, according to Biblical and historical scholars.

And strange as it seems, until Vatican II, the major religions of the world except the Protestants worshipped in non-vernacular languages.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
I encourage the OP to persist. In a parish near me, some derided the attempt at a restoration, until – wait – the church was fuller at the Latin Sunday Mass than the English :hmmm: And immediately thereafter there were daily weekday Latin Masses as well, and still are…
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Thank you, Elizabeth for your encouragement 👍
 
Reborn2013 said:
Many of the faithful who live in rural areas or fly over country travel more than 40 miles to attend TLM. I think the “several dozen” of you should pick a date and just go. Maybe select a mass that coincides with a social event at the Latin mass parish, and attend that as well. The people there would welcome your group with open arms. It would be an awesome experience.

Keep going there as much as possible and get to know the priests, and let them know that your area is in need of a Latin mass parish. If he belongs to an order that is devoted to the Latin Mass they would work to get something in your town, if it makes sense, instead of rattling off the list of “gotcha questions” designed to squash your dreams, as listed by a prior member on this thread.
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For those in our parish who wish to attend TLM in the nearest parish involves an 80 mile round trip.

Your suggestion regarding contact with the religious order who celebrate TLM is something which we will pursue.
 
Hey, Willie duggan,

I travel 75 miles each way every Sunday and consider myself lucky. The next closest is 120 miles each way which we did for several years. Wore out a new car going to that parish.
 
ProVobis said:
But Christ Himself worshipped in Hebrew, according to Biblical and historical scholars.

And strange as it seems, until Vatican II, the major religions of the world except the Protestants worshipped in non-vernacular languages.
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Jesus may have worshipped in Hebrew but the language in his everyday life and at the Last Supper, as it is called, from which the Eucharist comes probably was in Aramaic, I don’t know just guessing.

A little side bar, I have heard and read where some say that we don’t know if Jesus was literate or not, according to what is written, Jesus got up in the Temple and read from the scrolls, so, to me at least, it seems obvious that Jesus was literate.

Some seem to put tradition on some sort of Sacred plane whereas all tradition was at one time a new thing.
 
Tom_Baum said:
Some seem to put tradition on some sort of Sacred plane whereas all tradition was at one time a new thing.
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So you don’t think the early Christians held to some form of tradition or custom in their worship?
 
Reborn2013 said:
Many of the faithful who live in rural areas or fly over country travel more than 40 miles to attend TLM. I think the “several dozen” of you should pick a date and just go. Maybe select a mass that coincides with a social event at the Latin mass parish, and attend that as well. The people there would welcome your group with open arms. It would be an awesome experience.

Keep going there as much as possible and get to know the priests, and let them know that your area is in need of a Latin mass parish. If he belongs to an order that is devoted to the Latin Mass they would work to get something in your town, if it makes sense, instead of rattling off the list of “gotcha questions” designed to squash your dreams, as listed by a prior member on this thread.
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It’s important to be prepared with answers to the “gotcha” questions, not to “squash the dream” but to get it out of the clouds and into the realm of the real - a plan is a dream with a deadline, that has the budget details worked out. 😉
 
jmcrae said:
It’s important to be prepared with answers to the “gotcha” questions, not to “squash the dream” but to get it out of the clouds and into the realm of the real - a plan is a dream with a deadline, that has the budget details worked out. 😉
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Not the lay man’s job to answer those questions. It is the role of the clergy. We don’t need to get into here all of the responsibilities that catholic priests have abdicated since V2. Figuring out how to get vestments and altar cards is not the role of the lay people.
 
Reborn2013 said:
Not the lay man’s job to answer those questions. It is the role of the clergy. We don’t need to get into here all of the responsibilities that catholic priests have abdicated since V2. Figuring out how to get vestments and altar cards is not the role of the lay people.
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Someone has to provide them to the priest when he comes, or are you expecting the priest to spend his time going shopping?
 
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