Afraid of worshipping Mary

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Hello everyone,

I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.

How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?

Thanks you 🙂
 
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Hermione:
Hello everyone,

I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.

How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?

Thanks you 🙂
Simply ensure that all your prayers are that of honor and intercession. Praying to Mary is much like asking a fellow Christian to pray for you. If that Christian is upright, you might honor him and her while at the same time asking for his or her prayers.

“The prayers of a righteous man are very powerful.” James 5:16

Peace and God bless! 🙂

Eric
 
Jesus asked us to pray for each other, for our brothers and sisters. You are asking Mary to pray for you, to intercede with Jesus on your behalf. You are not worshipping Mary if you do this.
 
The first prayer I say everyday is to Our Blessed Mother. In the prayer I ask her to deliver this prayer and all of my prayers of this day to Her Son, Jesus. I offer the prayer through The Holy Spirit and for the Glory of God. I wrote the prayer as a way of giving her honor and a way to ask her to intercede and place all of my prayers for the day at the feet of Her Son. I hope it is clear I am worshiping the Three Persons of the One Trinity and offering significant honor to Mary. Then the next prayer of the day is five decades of The Holy Rosary with the front of my mind on the mysteries while the Hail Mary’s are silently active in my mind as if background music.

“O’ Blessed Mother I offer my prayers today through The Holy Spirit for the glory of God the Father and for Your Son Jesus and for Your disposition to suffering souls in purgatory. May you accept deliverance of my prayers and pray Your Son Jesus to bestow His graces upon those souls in need or desiring His Mercy.”

Like you, I must admit I was worried about how my intentions might be mixed up in my own mind and I wanted to assure myself (by language) of whom I am worshipping and of whom I am giving honor through prayer.
 
Hermione,

You should have the reason to be afraid if you “worship” (meaning latria) Mary. This is the kind of worship due only to God. But if you only “venerate” and give “honor” to Mary, there is no reason to be afraid.

Fundamentalists often stumble with the meaning of the word “worship.” When they see a Catholic pray before a statue, or gives honor and respect to Mary and the Saints, they misunderstood it to be “worship.” That’s where they are really messed-up, and often a lot of Catholics are misleaded by this incorrect use of the term.

Veneration and honor is NOT the same as worship (latria). An example of veneration or honor are the following, including postures of veneration:

1 Sam. 28:14 - Saul bows down before Samuel with his face to the ground in veneration.

Gen. 42:6 - Joseph’s brothers bow before Joseph with the face to the ground. This is veneration, not worship.

Gen. 19:1 - Lot venerates the two angels in Sodom, bowing himself with his face to the ground.

Luke 1:28 - the angel Gabriel venerates Mary by declaring to her “Hail, full of grace.” The heavenly angel honors the human Mary, for her perfection of grace exceeds that of the angels.

1 Kings 1:23 - the prophet Nathan bows down before King David.

2 Chron. 29:29-30 - King Hezekiah and the assembly venerate the altar by bowing down in worship before the sin offerings.

Dan. 8:17 - Daniel fell down prostrate in veneration before the angel Gabriel.

God bless! Hope these passages helps you understand the distinction.

Pio
 
Coming from the fundamental branches, I intellectually understood that Catholic Christians are not worshiping Mary, but I did not feel comfortable asking Mary to pray for me.

So I didn’t.

I did ask Christ to help me to understand with my heart the devotion of Mary. I asked Christ to show me if it was pleasing for me to ask Mary to Pray for me. And He did.

It was not overnight, but God helped me to see the line between the devotion of Mary and worship of Christ.

Part of the problem is word usage. You are from a group that has “daily devotionals” That is the worship of Christ. Devotion of Mary??? The line seems to be blurred.

I do know some would tell you to just start praying the rosary or asking Mary to pray for you. I had people tell me the same things. But I was never comfortable doing that. Now, I teach kids to pray the Rosary!

The line of worship and devotion of God; and the honor and devotion to Mary is very clear. But until you can see the line, just keep your prayers to God asking Him in His infinite mercy to help you to understand this issue intellectually and emotionally. (Just the honest opinion of someone who has been where you are and did just what I am advising you to do.)

God Bless,
Maria
 
Maria G.,
What a wonderful post. You told the truth with examples.
 
I had the same stumbling block. Even though intellectually it made perfect sense to me why Catholics prayed to and were devoted to Mary, after years of being an Evangelical and praying to God alone, it felt wrong praying to her. The mix inside just left me confused and unsure, unable to act. I thought of Scott Hahn’s first rosary, and I trusted that it was good. Yet I still was immobilized with confusion.

Then one night I could not stand fence-sitting any longer. I had a Memorare prayer from a little Mother Therese giftbook a Protestant friend gave me. This prayer just stuck in my mind.

So alone in my room, I got down on my knees and asked Jesus if it was okay for me to pray to His mother. And I asked Him to please stop immediately if he did not want me to pray it, because I did not want to displease him. And I listened, and I did not feel him tell me to stop.

So I began to pray the prayer, and it did feel so right, and I had confidence to continue. I prayed, “Are you my Mother?”, and I burst into tears. I hadn’t known how much I wanted to know that. And I asked her my intention: to please clear up my confusion over who she was.

At that very moment I realized I wasn’t confused anymore. And I never have been since. From then on, I KNEW she was my mother. It was a miraculous and swift answer to my prayer - my first prayer to Our Lady.

So if you want to have confidence and not have confusion about praying to Mary, ask her to help you. She will!

I also want to digress from this topic just to tell you what else happened after that.

At this time I had just begun my investigation into the Catholic Church. Hahn’s book had surpised me so. The Catholics really could be right. But I was not about to make such an important choice hastily. I would have to research both sides, and every issue. With my busy life, I figured that would take me ten years, at the very least…

That was February 1999 when I prayed that Memorare. Immediately I wanted to know how to pray the rosary. So I went to a really Catholic couple I knew, and asked her to teach me to pray it. Later she told me that she and her husband knew when I prayed that rosary that it wouldn’t be any time until I would be Catholic. They didn’t tell me that then. I wouldn’t have believed them.

But three months later, in May 1999, I knew. One Sunday, a series of events brought me to realize I needed to ask myself what I REALLY wanted. Just one thing. What was it. And so I asked myself, and I drew a complete blank. But the unanswered question nagged at me, and several hours later, late at night, it hit me. I wanted to learn about Catholicism, and to answer that quesiton about whether it was true or not. Finally satisfied - I knew my direction - I was able to sleep.

But I woke up in a panic. I realized that deep inside I really knew that if I began to investigate this, I was going to find out it was true. And if it was true, I was going to have to be - Catholic!

Not only did I not WANT to be Catholic (I really liked being Protestant) but there were many obstacles. They seemed insurmountable. It was the thought of them that me into a panic. I knew I could not face it alone, and as my mind raced for a way out, I thought of a group I heard that helped converts, and did an internet search to find Coming Home Network. Maybe they could help me. I was so afraid!

They did help me. They connected me with two very able mentors, who through email correspondance helped me navigate the very choppy waters I was thrown into. The conflicts and obstacles seemed huge, but by God’s grace my desire and determination grew and kept one step ahead of the obstacles. God gave me many graces. What a year it was. I knew almost immediately I wanted to be Catholic, so it was a trial to be patient and wait, but I did become Catholic Eastervigil 2000. What I thought would take ten years to decide took only about three months, and the decision seemed to happen of its own accord - not the ten years of laborious study I had predicted.

And it all started with that Memorare. So you see it really is true what everyone says - the fastest way to Jesus is Mary. I prayed to her, and in no time she had me before her son Jesus in the Eucharist! It wasn’t what I planned on, but - Mother knows best! 🙂
*Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that any one who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession, was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother! To thee I come; before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen. *
 
Eliza,

You have a wonderful experience!

In Jesus, thru Mary.

Pio
 
I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.
How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?
How sad to be afraid of devotion to the mother of the Messiah!

It is really more a matter of the heart than of the head.

How do you feel about your own mother?
Do you feel “devotion” to her? Do you honor her and respect her?

Imagine the unfathomable depth of our Lord’s heart and His capacity for love.
Imagine the love, devotion, honor, and respect He has for His beautiful mother.
Could you ever rival His devotion?
Do you think He would be offended with your love of His mother - when He loves her so much more?

Do not be afraid of the Queen Mother.
Give her a chance to show you her motherly love and you will not be disappointed!
 
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Hermione:
Hello everyone,

I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.

How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?

Thanks you 🙂
Mary is a person. Introduce yourself to her. Talk to her in your prayers. Allow yourself to have ‘glimpses’ of her in your thoughts during the day. Allow yourself to have some time to get to know her the way you would get to know any other person. Of course you are afraid of something. You describe it as a fear of worshipping Mary. Mary knows what your fear is really about. She will not force herself on you. She will pray for you so that you may have the beautiful gift of trust.
Memorare
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that any one who fled to thy protection, implored thy help or sought thy intercession, was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto thee, O Virgin of virgins my Mother; to thee do I come, before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful; O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me, Amen.
 
I’m really upset with fundamentalists
Hermione, I was born and raised a Catholic until some things happened to me which made me doubt the Catholic Church. I looked for answers from within and when they were not forthcoming (even up to writing many letters to those in high places) I looked outside of the church.

No-one can tell you what you believe in your own heart, but to blame others for your own doubts is unfair. If you think that praise given to Mary is worship then do not do it. If you feel that you can pray to Mary without it detracting (and instead emphasising) your worship to God, then like some other people here, you should consider it.

The dangers appear when Mary is given more honour than she would want herself (and there are those who are guilty of this). She was a very humble Jewish lady who offered herself completely to God’s cause but she knew herself that she needed a Saviour. And look at some of Jesus’ recorded words on the subject:

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Lk11:27-28 - As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
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**Mt11:11 I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. **
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It is important to keep the context of who Mary is and how important her role is. If you can happily pray to her then give it a try. Worship is contextual to the individual - no-one can see into another’s heart and know how they pray. So if you are unable to pray to Mary that is something you should prayerfully resolve for yourself as it is too subjective for anyone to do for you.

Personally, I find I cannot pray to Mary. I feel praise offered to her detracts from the praise I will only offer to Our Lord.Some people find this ridiculous but these are my personal feelings on the matter after much guidance through prayer has been sought. This is one to ask God’s help for I think…
 
I’m also pretty angry about how certain people have twisted honoring Mary in order to malign it, if only for the fact that sometimes I’ve even seen it influence other Catholics and make them more wary about it. One friend of mine had been exposed to the argument so much that (though he was Catholic) said that when he saw some kind of picture of Mary as the desktop wallpaper for our student center’s computer, he immediately changed it to a picture of Jesus. I pointed out to him that he probably just did this because of all the negative thoughts about Mary people had managed to plant in his mind. If that were a picture of anything non-religious on the wallpaper, I doubt he would have had the same thought about immediately changing it to Jesus. It’s kind of ironic how certain people I’ve met have no problem with keeping images regarding beer or swimsuit models or whatever, but as soon as someone decides to have a picture of the mother of our Lord, then look out! :rolleyes:
 
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Hermione:
Hello everyone,

I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.

How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?

Thanks you 🙂
Based on what I was initially taught and is what I still practice, Catholics pray to Mary and worship God.

Catholics pray for the Pope, pray to Mary, and worship God; which is the sequence I was instructed and drilled, and how I respond to protestants.
 
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Hermione:
Hello everyone,

I’m in RCIA and I’m really upset with fundamentalists. I was made aware of their ideas about Catholics worshipping Mary when my faith was still very, very new and I now, on some subconscious level, I am afraid of worshipping Mary.

How do I know if I am worshipping Mary? How can I be properly devoted to Mary?

Thanks you 🙂
Do you worship your Father or Mother? Do you worship good role models like the Saints? Do you worship good living role models today?

If you answered no to the questions above then you should not worry about worshiping Blessed Mary, you won’t. You will venerate Blessed Mary but not worship her. You will think highly of her just like you would of your father and mother or other Saints and role models. What makes her just a bit different is that she IS the mother of God. She IS favored by God. She commanded Jesus to perform a miracle (His first by the way) and He obeyed her, His mother.

Blessed Mary has a special place in our lives. Without her answer of “Yes”, we might still be waiting for our Messiah?

Use Blessed Mary as a role model. Pray to her like you would be praying to any Saint. Put her into your prayer chian like you would others in you parish/church. God is the God of the living and not the God of the dead. Blessed Mary is alive today and she is with our Lord in heaven. Ask her to pray with you to God, she is with Him you know.

Learn what the following words mean and how Catholics use them vs. protestants:

Honor
Venerate
Adore
Worship
Pray

We adore God alone, we venerate and honor Blessed Mary. We adore God alone, we venerate and honor our Saints.

As Catholics we can honor, venerate, worship (old definition), and pray(to ask) to Blessed Mary. We cannot adore her for adoration is for God alone.

If you read old plays or books from 50 -200+ years ago you will see that they used the words exactly like Catholics do today. The protestants use the words differently in some cases which leads to their utter confussion at time. You could say they re-formed the meanings of words to fit their own whim and fancy.

If their is any confussion on your part about Blessed Mary and her role in our live and our Church then pray the rosay. You will quickly see that she is special but not the person to whom our prayers are directed, she is only asked (prayed) to join with us in our prayers to God. She is a part of our prayer chain to God.

I only gave some points on this subject but there are other threads that explain you concerns well. Read them on this forum.
 
The dangers appear when Mary is given more honour than she would want herself (and there are those who are guilty of this). She was a very humble Jewish lady who offered herself completely to God’s cause but she knew herself that she needed a Saviour. And look at some of Jesus’ recorded words on the subject:
Teresas,

There is no danger for one who honors Mary. For how can you say “…given more honor than she would want herself”? The more you contemplate on Mother Mary and be devoted to her, the more you are drawn to her Son. There is no such thing as “excessive” devotion–it doesn’t even exist.

You are quoting Scriptures and say what Jesus said that “Blessed are they who hear the word of God and obey it.” But how misleaded you are in your interpretation of this passage! For who else is blessed by God but Mary! And who is blessed among women but her? The angel Gabriel said to her “Hail, full of grace.” Only Jesus and Mary has been called as “full of grace” in Scriptures. And based on your pattern of argument, are you saying that Mary didn’t hear the Word of God and obey it? Don’t you know that she bore God in her womb because she made that ultimate obedience ever to the Word of God in her Fiat, “Be it done unto me acorrding to your word.” She was the one who untie the knot of Eve’s disobedience. It was thru a woman (Eve) that sin came into the world, but it is also thru a woman that salvation came into the world–Mary, the one who is called the Immaculate Conception!
Personally, I find I cannot pray to Mary. I feel praise offered to her detracts from the praise I will only offer to Our Lord.Some people find this ridiculous but these are my personal feelings on the matter after much guidance through prayer has been sought. This is one to ask God’s help for I think…
Are you saying again that when you pray before Our Lady you are offering up praises that is only due to God? You are confusing the use of the terms. Latria is the only kind of worship due to God. But asking the prayers of the Our Lady is not “worship.” It’s asking for intercession. When you give veneration to Mary–it is not worship either. It is giving honor to her. It’s not a violation of the law of Love, in fact, it is the fulfillment of the commandment to honor you father and mother. Intercessory prayers, by the way, is encourage by Paul. So do you wish to go against it?

Lastly, we are a family of the people of God. If we talk to our family members even in heaven, that’s only a natural thing to do. God is glorified in that. Do not be afraid!

Pio
 
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