After a papal conclave, how can people be sure who is the real pope?

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In a previous post, I asked questions about the 1958 papal conclave. There are some doubts on who was the real pope from that papal conclave. There is the Siri thesis.

But now I have a more general question: After a papal conclave, how can people be sure who is the real pope?

As far as I know, it is a valid papal election and the acceptance of the elected person that make the person the pope. So, the validity of a pope is based on the validity of the election and the acceptance of the elected person. But both of them happen in the conclave, and only cardinals can witness them. So, what if all the cardinals lie or be silent about them, which may be the case in a conspiracy?

By contrast, the validity of a priest is based on the ordination, which ordinary people can witness, and so is usually free from doubts.
 
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So, what if all the cardinals lie or be silent about them
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you think all the Cardinals could get together and lie about who was elected but they could not just get together and elect who they wanted in the first place???
 
To become Pope you need two thirds of the votes. There is no way that two thirds of the cardinals would let that slide.
 
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So, what if all the cardinals lie or be silent about them, which may be the case in a conspiracy?
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Really?

Listen to yourself. To what you just said. Now, ask yourself how rational that statement is.
 
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are you trying to discredit John xx111

he is Saint Pope John XXIII now

are you Catholic Zhoudu
 
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To Roseeurekacross:

I am not trying to discredit John XXIII. I am just a little confused.
 
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@Roseeurekacross I don’t get how you got a criticism of John XXIII out of this what if scenario.

@zhoudu What are you confused about?
 
Going to try this @ thing

@bartholo

Pope John XXIII was the Pope elected in 1958
 
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God does not permit any antipope or false pope to be accepted by the universal Church on earth as its head, for that would be contrary to the indefectibility of the Church.
 
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