After one recieves the host

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Then you need to revise your theology on when True Presence begins and ends. Then you have to read a little on amylase, which is the enzyme present in saliva, which turns starches into simpler sugars, effectively destroying bread. This in relation to the Host means that it will lose its form of bread, therefore also Real Presence.
 
Pro Domino, you are saying that for decades people who have allowed the Host to melt on their tongue, and believing that they had received Holy Communion, have really not received Holy Communion.😦

“Then you have to read a little on amylase, which is the enzyme present in saliva, which turns starches into simpler sugars, effectively destroying bread. This in relation to the Host means that it will lose its form of bread, therefore also Real Presence.”

The Consecration turns the Host into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ - it is no longer ordinary bread that would go through the chemical change you are suggesting.

I believe you are just trying to cause anxiety and worry so I will pray for you and hope that you don’t succeed in your mission.:blessyou:
 
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Pro Domino, you are saying that for decades people who have allowed the Host to melt on their tongue, and believing that they had received Holy Communion, have really not received Holy Communion.😦

“Then you have to read a little on amylase, which is the enzyme present in saliva, which turns starches into simpler sugars, effectively destroying bread. This in relation to the Host means that it will lose its form of bread, therefore also Real Presence.”

The Consecration turns the Host into the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ - it is no longer ordinary bread that would go through the chemical change you are suggesting.

The substance of the bread is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ but the accidents of the bread remain and will go through the chemical change he mentions. That said, does it matter how far into our body Jesus gets before that occurs?

I believe you are just trying to cause anxiety and worry so I will pray for you and hope that you don’t succeed in your mission.:blessyou:
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Yes it does my friend. Eating involves swallowing. If you don’t swallow, then you did not follow Our Lord’s command.

Plain and simple.

Buona notte, me ne vado.
 
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Yes it does my friend. Eating involves swallowing. If you don’t swallow, then you did not follow Our Lord’s command.

Plain and simple.

Buona notte, me ne vado.
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Eating involves chewing which involves starting the breakdown of the food. This argument is akin to trying to find out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

The Host will eventually be swallowed, not absorbed by the tongue.
 
Now that we have heard from all the experts on the forum here…

Can anyone point to a definitive statement from Rome?
 
I always let the Host dissolve and then swallow, it doesn’t make any sense for me to chew it. I guess it is just the way the nuns taught me, but still I think it denotes respects to not chew the Body of Christ. But that is just me.
 
As a new Catholic To Be, and one who has dysphagia (trouble swallowing) due to ALS…I’m a quad in a wheelchair…can you give me some hints what a crip does to receive the Eucharist? My doc has me wear a mask in public to prevent me from getting a virus, but I don’t wear it in church out of respect to the other parishioners Don’t want to scare people. Does transfiguration eliminate viruses on the chalice? Thank you for your thoughts. 🙂 KayLouise
 
I try not to chew the host. I do so for private, devotional reasons and to respect what was once an encouraged way to show reverence to the Eucharist (even though there was nothing official about it). I don’t like seeing people chomp away like they’re eating a potato chip, but but if you have to chew it for practicality’s sake, go ahead.

As for the reference to the meaning of the word Jesus used at the last supper…the disciples saw Jesus face to face pretty much every day for three years. They lived with him, worked with him, traveled with him, ate with him, and prayed with him. They shared their joys, sorrows, and fears. They were the closest friends of the One who is the perfect friend- and they were also ordained clergymen (the first bishops). It’s a very different situation now- few- if any- of us have a relationship with Jesus that comes even close to the kind of relationship he had with the apostles. Also, just because something was done “in the Early Church”, or even at the last supper, doesn’t mean we have to do it now. In these days where irreverence toward the Eucharist happens constantly, it is important that we do what we can (especially the little things) to encourage our own devotion to the Eucharist. For some, that may mean not chewing the Host (as I said before, it’s ok to chew the Host as long as you’re not irreverent about it).
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As a new Catholic To Be, and one who has dysphagia (trouble swallowing) due to ALS…I’m a quad in a wheelchair…can you give me some hints what a crip does to receive the Eucharist? My doc has me wear a mask in public to prevent me from getting a virus, but I don’t wear it in church out of respect to the other parishioners Don’t want to scare people. Does transfiguration eliminate viruses on the chalice? Thank you for your thoughts. 🙂 KayLouise
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No it does not, and if your doctor has asked you to wear a mask in public to protect your health, I imagine it would be even more important for you not to drink after anybody.
 
In response to our soon to be Catholic, I suggest you combine to have the priest break a host in half if it is hard for you.

In response to the melters, it is not a thing about eating involves chewing or whatever. It is that the host needs to have the form of bread in order for Real Presence to remain. If you swallow the host after leaving it melting, it is very probable that chemical alteration has already transformed the form of bread. Remember that what happens is a change of substance and not form in the Mass. The form is still subject to the laws of nature, and the preservation of the form is neccesary for the substance to remain.
 
Dear Pro Domina and m124e5,
My thanks for your kind replys. I am the only one in my catechism class and the priest leaves me pretty much alone to my own learning. I wish you the very best of New Year’s and God’s blessings.
KayLouise
 
Just make sure you consume it. The important thing is to consume the host entirely. Don’t pick parts of the host out of your teeth and flick it or anything like that.

How you consume it I think is irrelevent. What if you don’t have teeth? Sometimes if the priest or EMHC is getting low on hosts they will break them apart, so occassionally you may get a peice that is small enough to just swallow without chewing.

I think when Jesus said to chew him he assumed that you had teeth and may have been thinking the bread back then was probably not the nice round dissolveable peices of bread that we have now.
 
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