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For some time now I have been reading the posts of paarsurrey, an Ahmadi, truly fascinated with how wrong his knowledge of history is, and I have taken the time to read up on some links he has posted.
It seems to me that Ahmadi is similar to Mormonism, in the fact that neither founder, Joseph Smith, and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, could bear the thought that Our Saviour and basis of the Truth was started in Israel, so they both made up their own religions, calling themselves “prophets” both claiming the “truth” is in their own countries.
I cannot believe how wrong the following passage is…
Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil – and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.3 It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial?
alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html
paarsurrey, and his “faith” need to research some more on why Jesus was crucified. Yes, He was considered accursed, as He performed miracles on the Sabbath, dined with gentiles, and the list goes on, so much so, that His Jewish elders wanted Him killed as He was seen as a threat,
Jesus was not accursed, we all know He never lost His relationship with God, but He was crucified as the people around Him at the time thought He must be accursed.
How can the Ahmadi faith have it so wrong?
As for Jesus travelling to India, and dying of natural causes there, paarsurrey, give me some definite fact on this please.
It seems to me that Ahmadi is similar to Mormonism, in the fact that neither founder, Joseph Smith, and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, could bear the thought that Our Saviour and basis of the Truth was started in Israel, so they both made up their own religions, calling themselves “prophets” both claiming the “truth” is in their own countries.
I cannot believe how wrong the following passage is…
Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil – and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.3 It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial?
alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html
paarsurrey, and his “faith” need to research some more on why Jesus was crucified. Yes, He was considered accursed, as He performed miracles on the Sabbath, dined with gentiles, and the list goes on, so much so, that His Jewish elders wanted Him killed as He was seen as a threat,
Jesus was not accursed, we all know He never lost His relationship with God, but He was crucified as the people around Him at the time thought He must be accursed.
How can the Ahmadi faith have it so wrong?
As for Jesus travelling to India, and dying of natural causes there, paarsurrey, give me some definite fact on this please.
Believing the above, does not validate the Quran, by the way!