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Yup, is “ah-men”. The Aramaic I believe is “Amin”. In Ukrainian and Slavonic, its the same, “Amin”. I’ve been to a Chaldean Holy Qurbana and its “Amin”. The Latin is “Amen” and in Filipino we also say “Amen”. It seems only the English says “Ey-men”. That’s pretty telling given in every language its always “AH” instead of “EY”.I say ahmen, priest says ahmen, about half of the congregation goes either way.
Its been my experience that the more ritualistic religions (Catholicism, Anglicanism, Eastern Orthodoxy, etc.) have a preference for ahmen, while less ritualistic religions have a preference for aymen.
The Latin pronunciation of “amen” is “ahmen,” not “aymen,” and since Latin masses are less prevalent now, I think we can blame the vowel shift at least partly on that. However, whenever I go to mass, the collective sound usually still stays “ahmen.”
The use of the long A or short A has much more to do with the different registers of the English language than with liturgy or denominations.I am a convert to the Catholic church, and I was raised Fundamentalist Church of Christ and Baptist.
All the fundamentalists pronounced the word amen as aymen, if fact sometimes they would even shout AYMEN.
As soon as I graduated HS I looked for another church. At first I went Episcopal trying to keep peace in the family, since they are partly Catholic and partly Protestant. That failed since my family said “church of Christ or nothing”. Since I was already rejected by my folks I converted to Catholicism.
But in the Episcopal church I became accustomed to liturgy and saying ahmen and not shouting aymen.
The first thing that suprised me in the Catholic church was the people saying “aymen” just like the fundamentalists (minus the shouting).
The Cath Ch used to say ahmen, when and why the change? Did it have something to do with the switch from Latin? Aymen is supposed to be more “english”?
BTW I am too young to remember the EF Mass.
Why just stop at STEREO-type. Let’s go with Dolby Surround Quadraphonic-type with gigantic woofersI always thought all americans say aymenSorry guys… Just another stereotype story:blush:
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Good gravy! NOOOOOOOOI always thought all americans say aymenSorry guys… Just another stereotype story:blush:
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Why just stop at STEREO-type. Let’s go with Dolby Surround Quadraphonic-type with gigantic woofers![]()
I understand they want to make English the official language of the U.S. My question would be which one?Put 10 Americans from different parts of the country in a room, give them a bag of groceries and ask them to name the content. You’ll be very surprised at how differently we pronounce things and we have different names for certain things too. I didn’t know that there were so many ways to name a Coke: pop, soda pop, soda, frap, cola and a few others that I forget.
I understand they want to make English the official language of the U.S. My question would be which one?![]()
Remember the TV western “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman” It starred Jane Seymore? In real life she speaks with a British accent. She did not on the program.Good gravy! NOOOOOOOO
We Southerners speak proper English, unlike the Yanks up north.
Put 10 Americans from different parts of the country in a room, give them a bag of groceries and ask them to name the content. You’ll be very surprised at how differently we pronounce things and we have different names for certain things too. I didn’t know that there were so many ways to name a Coke: pop, soda pop, soda, frap, cola and a few others that I forget.
From 1998 to 2002, I was the dean of a college at a large university. The college next door was the College of Communication. I really liked going over, because I learned a great deal about the media. I learned something that I did not know. When the news and other programs that are intended for a wider audience is recorded, the newsmen and women actually practice articulation to reduce their regional registers and accents. What we hear is not always the way they grew up speaking. What we hear is a textbook English. Ever hear the word “ain’t” on the news or at a mass, or yous, yuns, you’ll (you all), y’all? In everyday life, people speak this way.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF![]()
I suppose just because it sounds more proper. “Ahmen” sounds right, I think, to most people, even those who say “aymen.”But why do we sing “Ah-men” (even when singing in English) if in English we say “Ay-men”?
If you notice, Oprah speaks with a standard American accent, but she’s a southerner. You train to speak that way.Remember the TV western “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman” It starred Jane Seymore? In real life she speaks with a British accent. She did not on the program.
To me the “standard” American accent sounds midwestern.If you notice, Oprah speaks with a standard American accent, but she’s a southerner. You train to speak that way.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF![]()
What we call “standard” would be the accent from the Great Lakes States. I believe that it was accepted as the “standard” because of its crispness and cadence.To me the “standard” American accent sounds midwestern.
And because it doesn’t drive people nuts when they listen to it. New Yorker accents drive people nuts, southern accents drive people nuts, and Canadian/Wisconsin area accents drive people nuts. The only neutral is from the middle towards the West Coast.What we call “standard” would be the accent from the Great Lakes States. I believe that it was accepted as the “standard” because of its crispness and cadence.
Fraternally,
Br. JR, OSF![]()
Hey! Watch that buddy. I’m from Central VA.And because it doesn’t drive people nuts when they listen to it. New Yorker accents drive people nuts, southern accents drive people nuts, and Canadian/Wisconsin area accents drive people nuts. The only neutral is from the middle towards the West Coast.![]()
Remember the group ABBA? They must have gone to the same school. They sang quite a number of English pop songs but couldn’t even give interviews in English until maybe recently.Remember the TV western “Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman” It starred Jane Seymore? In real life she speaks with a British accent. She did not on the program.