Al-Aqsa mosque not in Jerusalem

[famdigy]

Contrary to what many Muslims and non-Muslims believe about the Night Journey and the al-aqsa mosque. Most Shia Muslims believe the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hf) didn’t travel to Jerusalem on the night journey and the al-aqsa mosque mentioned in the Qur’an is not located in Jerusalem.

Ali bin Ibrahim al-Qummi, relying on the Isnad of Isma’il al-Ju’fi, narrated: “I was sitting in the Sacred Mosque in Makkah, when Abu Jafar – Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (pbuh) - took a glance at the heaven and another glance at the Kaa’bah.

“He then recited the verse: “Glorified (and Exalted) is He (Allah) who took His servant (Muhammad, pbuh&hf) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) to the Masjid al-aqsa (farthest mosque)’. He repeated this three times.

“He then turned towards me and said, ‘What do the people of Iraq say about this verse, O Iraqi?’ I said: ‘They say that he (the Prophet peace be upon him and his pure family) was taken for a night journey from the Sacred Mosque to Jerusalem.’ He then said: ‘It is not as they say, rather he was taken for a night journey from here to here’, pointing to the heaven. And he added, ‘What is in between them is sacred.’” (Tafsir al-Qummi v2, p 243)

 

[KathleenGee]

At the time Mohammed was alleged to have gone to Jerusalem, well, was approximate to the great Orthodox Catholic church, St. Mary of Justinian that ran from north to south of the city.

He did at one time pass Jerusalem but had no interest in it. It was the Syrian Umayyids who created the connection to Jerusalem after the Arab conquest to make a land claim, a tactic often used by them and damned by Mohammed’s nephew.

When Mohammed had the dream, the farthest distance at the time was the mosque either in Medina or 10 miles from there.

The nephew also was angry because there was also made a claim about the Dome of the Rock being that which Abraham had used to sacrifice his son.

Actually, Abraham had taken his son into the wilderness which is in the probable location near Nablus. The nephew rightfully believed that nothing else should be done to the rock of Abraham although he was mistaken about its authenticity.

The claims to Jerusalem through the use of the rock was actually claimed several hundred years afterwards approaching the 900’s. St. Mary Major, what was remaining of it after its partial destruction by the pre-Islamic Persians fighting the Byzantines, was still in use up to around 800 AD.

And really, no matter what…Israel was the land God had given the Jews. Christ came out of the Jews…he died in Jerusalem and rose from the dead from there…He died for us…all of us, including Muslims. So in a partial way, that is why John Paul II considered Jerusalem to be an international city–Jews, Christians and finally the Muslims, irregardless to their claims.

 

[John7]

Contrary to what many Muslims and non-Muslims believe about the Night Journey and the al-aqsa mosque. Most Shia Muslims believe the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hf) didn’t travel to Jerusalem on the night journey and the al-aqsa mosque mentioned in the Qur’an is not located in Jerusalem.

Ali bin Ibrahim al-Qummi, relying on the Isnad of Isma’il al-Ju’fi, narrated: “I was sitting in the Sacred Mosque in Makkah, when Abu Jafar – Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (pbuh) - took a glance at the heaven and another glance at the Kaa’bah.

“He then recited the verse: “Glorified (and Exalted) is He (Allah) who took His servant (Muhammad, pbuh&hf) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) to the Masjid al-aqsa (farthest mosque)’. He repeated this three times.

“He then turned towards me and said, ‘What do the people of Iraq say about this verse, O Iraqi?’ I said: ‘They say that he (the Prophet peace be upon him and his pure family) was taken for a night journey from the Sacred Mosque to Jerusalem.’ He then said: ‘It is not as they say, rather he was taken for a night journey from here to here’, pointing to the heaven. And he added, ‘What is in between them is sacred.’” (Tafsir al-Qummi v2, p 243)

If its not in Jerusalem then what is the name of the mosque that is there?

 

[KathleenGee]

Al Aksa Mosque is built near the Dome of the Rock.

Note there is difference and disparity of faith between Sunni and Shia.

 

[KathleenGee]

No more posts from me…angels fear to tread…

 

[famdigy]

If its not in Jerusalem then what is the name of the mosque that is there?

There are two mosques, the dome of the rock which you see all the time and the al-aqsa mosque (masjid al-aqsa) named after the mention in the Qur’an. Many people believe the dome of the rock is the al-aqsa but the two are separate entities.

 

[John7]

There are two mosques, the dome of the rock which you see all the time and the al-aqsa mosque (masjid al-aqsa) named after the mention in the Qur’an. Many people believe the dome of the rock is the al-aqsa but the two are separate entities.

oh.

 

[swariffin]

Contrary to what many Muslims and non-Muslims believe about the Night Journey and the al-aqsa mosque. Most Shia Muslims believe the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hf) didn’t travel to Jerusalem on the night journey and the al-aqsa mosque mentioned in the Qur’an is not located in Jerusalem.

Ali bin Ibrahim al-Qummi, relying on the Isnad of Isma’il al-Ju’fi, narrated: “I was sitting in the Sacred Mosque in Makkah, when Abu Jafar – Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (pbuh) - took a glance at the heaven and another glance at the Kaa’bah.

“He then recited the verse: “Glorified (and Exalted) is He (Allah) who took His servant (Muhammad, pbuh&hf) for a journey by night from Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) to the Masjid al-aqsa (farthest mosque)’. He repeated this three times.

“He then turned towards me and said, ‘What do the people of Iraq say about this verse, O Iraqi?’ I said: ‘They say that he (the Prophet peace be upon him and his pure family) was taken for a night journey from the Sacred Mosque to Jerusalem.’ He then said: ‘It is not as they say, rather he was taken for a night journey from here to here’, pointing to the heaven. And he added, ‘What is in between them is sacred.’” (Tafsir al-Qummi v2, p 243)

An interesting point from a muslim friend. Are you saying that Masjid Al-Aqsa should be interpreted as Heaven? I am willing to listen more.

 

[famdigy]

An interesting point from a muslim friend. Are you saying that Masjid Al-Aqsa should be interpreted as Heaven? I am willing to listen more.

The Masjid al-Aqsa is a mosque in the furthest heaven.

The following is excerpt of a shia commentary on Ayah 17:1

“The mi-raj; is usually dated to the 27th night of the month of Rajab in the year before hijrat. While the Holy Prophet finished his night prayers in the house of his cousin, Ummi Hani, the sister of Ali ibn Abu Talib, the angel Jibra-il came to him with the invitation of the Lord of the worlds to have a journey to the highest heaven. Jibrail first took him to the Ka-bah (the Masjid al Haram) and from there he was taken to the farthest masjid in the heavens. Although aqsa means “the farthest” but most of the translators and commentators confuse this word with the name of Masjid al Aqsa in Jerusalem. Farthest is an adjective used to refer to the masjid in the most distant heaven…”