Alcohol and Moderation

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Hoosier_Daddy said:
Good point and who are we to say children or 18 year olds cannot have access to this “gift”

I can see it now. resistance not on the healthcare law but on the religious suppression of those under 21.:rolleyes:😃
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For non-Americans (such as myself), 21 is insanely high. I am 27 year old man who looks more like 30 and I get “carded” all the time when in the US…bugs the heck out of me. And the places that do it? What under 21 year-old goes to a high end Italian restaurant for illicit wine? lol
I have yet to find anyone who can explain why one can fight and die for one’s country, buy property, and choose the leaders of the land at 18, but must wait 3 more years to make the decision to have a glass of wine. Utter insanity.
 
twf said:
For non-Americans (such as myself), 21 is insanely high. I am 27 year old man who looks more like 30 and I get “carded” all the time when in the US…bugs the heck out of me. And the places that do it? What under 21 year-old goes to a high end Italian restaurant for illicit wine? lol
I have yet to find anyone who can explain why one can fight and die for one’s country, buy property, and choose the leaders of the land at 18, but must wait 3 more years to make the decision to have a glass of wine. Utter insanity.
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Insane! Unjust! There should be vending machines at the high schools!
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
Insane! Unjust! There should be vending machines at the high schools!
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😛 I would hardly go that far, but 18 seems a perfectly reasonable age to me. It’s 19 in my home province of British Columbia (which is also the legal age to buy tobacco), but in some provinces it is 18. For whatever reason Americans have concluded that sitting down to dinner with a glass of wine takes more maturity and gravity than going to war or electing the leader of the Free World.
 
Hello folks,
I thought the topic was alcohol and moderation. I’m reading very little about that if any. Mostly what I’m reading is Don’t tread on me legalism-religious and secular. It seems that some are ranting because they fear their false idols of ego and intoxicating substances are under attack.
I had a father that died because of his non-moderate use of alcohol. He was also a heavy smoker but the booze got him first. I had a brother-in-law that died from his non-moderate use of alcohol. I have a sister-in-law that recently had a liver transplant because of her immoderate use of alcohol.
Many in her family still get trashed(with her there) and joke about their drinking and the drinking of others. Why? Because it’s legal to do so. It is legal but in no way moderate. There is my rant. Thank you for reading-blessings to all, be well and stay safe.
 
Hello again,
Forgot part of the rant. I believe abortion is legal in the u.s. so the more the merrier.
 
This idea that **no one **should ever have more than 1-2 drinks in a night is just silly to me. I drink rarely, maybe 4-6 times a year or so, but when I do, I have 6-7 or even more. Despite this, it has never caused me to miss a day of work. It has never caused me to get arrested. Never got in a physical confrontation with anyone because of it. Never got in a verbal confrontation with anyone because of it. Never been kicked out of a bar/restaurant/party/friend’s house because of it. Never committed sexual sin because of it. In fact, I can’t think of a single negative consequence that I’ve experienced because of it other than throwing up a couple times in my 20’s. I don’t mean to downplay the suffering that it has caused for many people, but everyone is different. I’ve rarely found it anything less than enjoyable.
 
LaughingBoy1503 said:
Catholic beerhead here…

Just my advice and opinion. I have had a drinking problem in the past. I still enjoy beer but in moderation. I never have more than 2 beers in a row these days. Actually 2 and 2/3 if I have a 32oz. I am 5’10 200 lbs. That’s not huge, but im no lightweight. I can handle that. Don’t party every weekend. Nobody needs to do that. If you go out with friends and want a drink, set the limit at maybe 3 or 4. There is nothing wrong with having a beer every night with dinner (I do) if you can absolutely positively stop at 1 or 2. Don’t get worried if people start telling you “You have a drinking problem, you need to go to Alcoholics anonymous” and so forth. They may have had a drinking problem, but so did I and it is possible to learn to moderate without all that 12 step stuff. More power to people who like the 12 steps and a.a. though if it helped them.

It is harder to moderate your drinking if you hang out with people who drink a lot. Some people can do it, but it is hard. Generally, I know this may be hard, but if you need to drink around certain friends, it is better to hang out with them less. Good luck and God bless.
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Thank you so much! This is exactly the kind of advice I needed. What you described basically sounds what I’m aiming for right now. Beer rules, but it’s important that we use it for good and not evil.

Thanks to everyone else participating in the thread!
 
VeritasLuxMea said:
This idea that **no one **should ever have more than 1-2 drinks in a night is just silly to me. I drink rarely, maybe 4-6 times a year or so, but when I do, I have 6-7 or even more. Despite this, it has never caused me to miss a day of work. It has never caused me to get arrested. Never got in a physical confrontation with anyone because of it. Never got in a verbal confrontation with anyone because of it. Never been kicked out of a bar/restaurant/party/friend’s house because of it. Never committed sexual sin because of it. In fact, I can’t think of a single negative consequence that I’ve experienced because of it other than throwing up a couple times in my 20’s. I don’t mean to downplay the suffering that it has caused for many people, but everyone is different. I’ve rarely found it anything less than enjoyable.
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Amen brother.
 
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