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I have had many conversations with Protestants and other denominations. I am interested in the terms and phrases that are used by these groups that may be foreign to a Cradle Catholic. I will give a few I have heard and maybe others can give more. “Being moved by the spirit” “Getting Saved” “Saying the Sinners Prayer” “Having and Altar Call” You kinda get the picture. Are there any more to add to the list?
 
“born again”, ordinance as opposed to sacrament. Getting a call to be a preacher or minnaster (sp?)

Sanctified wholey as the "second act of grace.
 
Sometimes I wish topic titles were more descriptive. Just seeing those two words “Alien Terms” I immediately thought the thread was about Raëlians or Scientologist or something to do with some guest on George Noory.

One time I was asked “Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus?” I was caught off guard with the question really didn’t have a reply and because of that I was told I had no “personal relationship with Jesus.” I felt it was a bit unfair, it wasn’t because in essence I didn’t, it was because I wasn’t really familiar with the phrase. So thereafter I tried to keep track how many times I heard it used in homilies or religious talks or appear in the books I read. And I have to admit in all I heard and read I really can not remember ever coming across the collocation “personal relationship.”
 
Charles Grandison Finney (1792-1875) was a minister, a lecturer, a professor, and a traveling revivalist who held heretical views on the Atonment. He invented the practice which he called the Anxious Seat, and developed a theological system around it. Finney was straightforward about his purpose for this technique and wrote the following comment near the end of his life:
“The church has always felt it necessary to have something of this kind to answer this very purpose. In the days of the apostles, baptism answered this purpose. The gospel was preached to the people, and then all those who were willing to be on the side of Christ, were called out to be baptized. It held the place that the anxious seat does now as a public manifestation of their determination to be Christians”
The Anxious Seat was considered to be a psychological technique that manipulated people to make a premature profession of faith. It was considered to be an emotional conversion influenced by the preachers’ magnetism.
The system that Finney admitted had replaced biblical baptism, is the nucleus for the popular plan of salvation that was made normative in the twentieth century.
It was popularized by Dwight L. Moody. It was standardized by Billy Graham.
Finney’s opponants were from his side of the Tiber. And they had good reason to be concerned. These names might mean nothing to Catholic scholars, but they should to Reformed Protestants.They included:
John Humphrey Noyes (1811–1886)
George W. Gale (1789–1861)
Lyman Beecher (1775–1863)
Asahel Nettleton (1738–1844)
Arthur (1786–1865) and Lewis (1788–1873) Tappan
Asa Mahan (18??–1889)
Charles Haddon Spurgeon (1834 –1892)
David Martin Lloyd-Jones.
Ian Murray’s “Revival & Revivalism” (which used to be in my library) is a wonderful resource book looking the damage Finney’s teachings have done to American Protestantism. The ‘invitation’, ‘sinner’s prayer’ are innovations that is not even compatable with conservative Reformed principals, let alone Catholicism.
 
Hey JustaServant, I read your Blog. Very moving account ! I have a Sister who is kinda following your footsteps. She was a cradle Catholic and then became a Baptist. She has since divorced the Baptist man (a great guy) and is now single. She posts on Facebook and many of her postings have Protestant Buzzwords.
 
I have had many conversations with Protestants and other denominations. I am interested in the terms and phrases that are used by these groups that may be foreign to a Cradle Catholic. I will give a few I have heard and maybe others can give more. “Being moved by the spirit” “Getting Saved” “Saying the Sinners Prayer” “Having and Altar Call” You kinda get the picture. Are there any more to add to the list?
Some fundamentalists speak about the “four spiritual laws.” I’m not exactly sure what they are, but I think it goes something like: 1) Everyone has sinned 2) Jesus died for your sins 3) God has a plan for your life 4) if you accept Jesus, you can realize God’s plan.
 
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