Aliens and demons

[catholictiger]

I think it is quite possible. I had the opportunity to speak with someone who claimed he and his sister, were routinely abducted by aliens. He claimed that they were visited on several occasions in their lives. Night visits, paralysis, and abduction to a craft. The typical physical examination most abductees claim. I suspected they were not brought up with any Christian faith. I often wondered if their lack of belief in Christ had anything to do with these visits.

A fascinating video, talks about this topic. Let me know your thoughts.
youtube.com/watch?v=O0VC8UI9ok8

good video but when he starts to go into the rapture stuff and how God hold him that and all the protestant stuff of make jesus your personal lord and savor thats were he lost me, i agree with what the guys says before this point, even though this guy could be stretching the truth maybe alittle bit some things seem alittle far fetched, even though i do believe in demons and i believe they have power and everything the thing that they could be filmed when ever maybe stretching it alittle bit, also i would imagine this guy still has demons attacking him not just with temptation but other type of attacks as he explained. I don’t think accepting Jesus into your heart well the way protestants do would be enough to rid yourself of a demon it helps but it is such a spiritual warfare we are fighting and those demons don’t let go of their grasp of people easily when they really get deep into them. I’m sure some of his stuff is true but i take it with a grain of salt. that’s just my opinion though

 

[justtryin]

Ran across this several months ago.

freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2611238/posts

Who’s behind the UFO phenomenon.

Especially The Characteristics of Extraterrestrials
Compared to Demonic Attacks on Monks.

It really shook up the conversations at work when they were discussing A&E’s Ancient Aliens programs.

 

[Des]

There is no credible evidence for aliens on earth.

I believe if you took all the ‘Credible’ witness testimonies out there, a grand jury would conclude the contrary.

And no I do not believe the concept of ‘aliens’ visiting the earth are demonic any more than a stealth bomber would be to humans if they had seen one a 100 years ago.

 

[mangy_dog]

Keep it simple.

Aliens - as in - “outer space” or “other galaxies”…don’t exist.
Demons on the other hand, do exist.

UFO’s can be manifestations from hell and/or human secret technology.

Put them together and you have a great delusion that is kept secret by way of disinformation and plausible deniability to keep us guessing and wondering and distracted from the Sound Doctrine of Jesus Christ.

My suggestion: If you think that you are having an “encounter” of any kind - call on St. Michael the Archangel by praying his prayer. I promise you the “encounter” will cease.

 

[Heuchler]

There are a couple possibilities that can explain the UFO phenomenon. First, it can be misidentification of other things and hallucinations. Second, it could be new military aircrafts. It could also be Demons, and finally it could be actual aliens. The first two are extremely probable. It could also be demons which could explain the abductions (but I’d rather believe it is hallucinations and sleep paralysis). However, it definitely isnt the fact that there are real aliens. If this was a real extraterrestial species they wouldnt hide about and only appear for a few minutes to a small town, they would actually come in contact with humanity or not be seen at all. The actions of these “aliens” dont show any purpose or rationality.
I would rather believe that this is the act of the human mind and that the Devil can use this to bring us away from the truth but that he isnt the cause of it all.

 

[agnes_therese]

Keep it simple.

Aliens - as in - “outer space” or “other galaxies”…don’t exist.

And how do you know that? The Church does not deny the possibility of life in outer space.

 

[perro_sarnoso]

And how do you know that? The Church does not deny the possibility of life in outer space.

You use a very broad stroke when you say “The Church”.

The Vatican Observatory director or whatever his title is, has made comments concerning the theory or possiblity and made philosophical assertions that indicate that it would’nt in any way change the way we view God and His creation.

Funes, I believe is his name, is not the official voice of the pope in matters of doctrine or teaching and is in his perfect right to comment on what he feels when he peers into the universe.

When you get a chance…look up St. Anthony of the desert and his experience in the desert with an object he happened to walk up on. His approach to this Unidentified things was reasoning and rebuke. It disappeared.

I like your name - pray to St. Agnes and to St. Therese. I promise you ( and I cannot elaborate) that UFO’s are not from other civilizations or advanced “beings”.

The demons are behind it all. I promise.

mangy dog = perro sarnoso

 

[agnes_therese]

Show me the official statement of the Church, please, that Fr. Funes was wrong to say what he did.

You use a very broad stroke when you say “The Church”.

The Vatican Observatory director or whatever his title is, has made comments concerning the theory or possiblity and made philosophical assertions that indicate that it would’nt in any way change the way we view God and His creation.

Funes, I believe is his name, is not the official voice of the pope in matters of doctrine or teaching and is in his perfect right to comment on what he feels when he peers into the universe.

When you get a chance…look up St. Anthony of the desert and his experience in the desert with an object he happened to walk up on. His approach to this Unidentified things was reasoning and rebuke. It disappeared.

I like your name - pray to St. Agnes and to St. Therese. I promise you ( and I cannot elaborate) that UFO’s are not from other civilizations or advanced “beings”.

The demons are behind it all. I promise.

mangy dog = perro sarnoso

 

[Vladd]

I would think they do bring that a alien just means something that’s not from earth and one could say having said that Then God is a alien as well as he isn’t from earth. Not as in ET looking but just from another planet or dimension, after all heaven has to be another dimension or planet because it’s deffinetly not here on earth!

 

[PeterGStanley]

Isn’t claiming life only exists on earth a self-centred idea that actually is limiting Gods creativity. The earth was flat - then we were the centre with everything orbiting around us - we are the only life in the universe.

Would it really shatter you belief in God if he had created life else where.

And no I don’t believe aliens visit.Even at the speed of light the nearest star is still 6 light years away - the distances are too great. Until it can be proven that an object at our level ( not the quantum level ) can travel at the speed of light can be observed - which never has been observed - which is still too slow - I will have my doubts that it is possible - the Vatican has stated that there is the possibility of extraterrestrial life out there

 

[Vladd]

Actually the sun is the center, correct me of I’m wrong

 

[Arizona_Mike]

It’s actually a pretty old theory, a Fortean writer named John A. Keel started promoting it back in the 1950s and 1960s. (He is best known for writing the book “The Mothman Prophecies”, on which the film was very loosely based). He argued that many phenomena through history - UFO encounters, cryptozoological phenomena like Sasquatch and Mothman, ghosts, demons, ouija board contacts, the Nephilim and Men in Black, medieval sightings of elves and faeries, angelic contacts, and suchlike, were all part of the same malign phenomenon, which has been called the “Ultraterrestrial” hypothesis. Among Keel’s most famous quotes is “I started out as a UFOlogist, and ended as a demonologist.”

I don’t buy into it (most can be explained by human hoaxers and mental illness), but it is interesting how many alleged UFO contactees start their own religions after their experience, and how the supposed aliens promote beliefs that contradict the Christian faith - and even support divisive beliefs in racism, imminent apocalypse, etc. It certainly seems like something our Adversary would promote. Could be there’s something to it.

 

[Vladd]

It’s actually a pretty old theory, a Fortean writer named John A. Keel started promoting it back in the 1950s and 1960s. (He is best known for writing the book “The Mothman Prophecies”, on which the film was very loosely based). He argued that many phenomena through history - UFO encounters, cryptozoological phenomena like Sasquatch and Mothman, ghosts, demons, ouija board contacts, the Nephilim and Men in Black, medieval sightings of elves and faeries, angelic contacts, and suchlike, were all part of the same malign phenomenon, which has been called the “Ultraterrestrial” hypothesis. Among Keel’s most famous quotes is “I started out as a UFOlogist, and ended as a demonologist.”

I don’t buy into it (most can be explained by human hoaxers and mental illness), but it is interesting how many alleged UFO contactees start their own religions after their experience, and how the supposed aliens promote beliefs that contradict the Christian faith - and even support divisive beliefs in racism, imminent apocalypse, etc. It certainly seems like something our Adversary would promote. Could be there’s something to it.

I’ve seen pictures of Greys, not drawings but pics, if it’s a fluke then they are good! Can’t be sure!

 

[PeterGStanley]

Actually the sun is the center, correct me of I’m wrong

Of our solar system yes - but not the centre of the galaxy or the universe - were on the Orion arm of the Milky-way Galaxy surrounded by billions of Galaxys - but that has to be fiction right.

 

[Vladd]

Of our solar system yes - but not the centre of the galaxy or the universe - were on the Orion arm of the Milky-way Galaxy surrounded by billions of Galaxys - but that has to be fiction right.

No Orion is very real , lol the sun is the center for all planets ! Who told you different? Unless I’ve been lied to that is and if I’m wrong then I need to correct my ignorance but I’m positive the sun is the middle of all planets.

 

[mangy_dog]

I would think they do bring that a alien just means something that’s not from earth and one could say having said that Then God is a alien as well as he isn’t from earth. Not as in ET looking but just from another planet or dimension, after all heaven has to be another dimension or planet because it’s deffinetly not here on earth!

Therein lies the danger of and the trap of this great delusion. The theorists and believers of the “UFO’s from other galaxies” idea - are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

To them Jesus is an advanced or [ascended] master - alien from another galaxy and not the Son of God Incarnate. God to them becomes the name of the aliens of our indoctrination through the centuries. Aliens become the Ancient Gods or as the T.V. series would have us believe Ancient Aliens are the gods and angels of our religious history. Their message and miracles, indistinguisable from advanced [alien] technology, leads the curious to think of the possibility of other means of longevity, salvation and redemption.
Even Lucifer and the demons become “alien visitors” with enlightened philosopy. All in all it casts an evil shadow of doubt on the supernatural and the spiritual - the message of the Cross and the Sound Doctrine of Jesus Christ.

It is a great delusion. Don’t fall for it.

 

[Vladd]

Therein lies the danger of and the trap of this great delusion. The theorists and believers of the “UFO’s from other galaxies” idea - are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

To them Jesus is an advanced or [ascended] master - alien from another galaxy and not the Son of God Incarnate. God to them becomes the name of the aliens of our indoctrination through the centuries. Aliens become the Ancient Gods or as the T.V. series would have us believe Ancient Aliens are the gods and angels of our religious history. Their message and miracles, indistinguisable from advanced [alien] technology, leads the curious to think of the possibility of other means of longevity, salvation and redemption.
Even Lucifer and the demons become “alien visitors” with enlightened philosopy. All in all it casts an evil shadow of doubt on the supernatural and the spiritual - the message of the Cross and the Sound Doctrine of Jesus Christ.

It is a great delusion. Don’t fallfor it.

Thanks for replying, one more question . Is heaven another world or realm? Definition of alien is someone or being not from our country or from earth , meaning that they are from somewhere besides earth. I’m not sure what to think.

 

[mangy_dog]

Thanks for replying, one more question . Is heaven another world or realm? Definition of alien is someone or being not from our country or from earth , meaning that they are from somewhere besides earth. I’m not sure what to think.

Heaven is a real place that exist outside of space and time. Space/time was created by God for our nature.

Everything in the universe is a natural existence.
The angels and saint in heaven have the praeternatural existence and enjoy the presence of God.
The supernatural is proper only of God. Super - above and natural…above all natures.

To paraphrase scripture, no eye has seen no ear has heard, nor has it come up in the heart of man the wonders that God has prepared for us.]

It’s a real place.

 

[TowardTruth]

I’m not into that scene anymore, but I was captivated with the whole alien, occult, end of the world podcasts. There were same Christians who where in these fields and they did claim many cases of abducties invoking the name of Jesus during abductions and the aliens going away.

I always thought it weird the aliens doing experiments that didn’t have any outcome except to scare and humiliate the person.

 

[mangy_dog]

I’m not into that scene anymore, but I was captivated with the whole alien, occult, end of the world podcasts. There were same Christians who where in these fields and they did claim many cases of abducties invoking the name of Jesus during abductions and the aliens going away.

I always thought it weird the aliens doing experiments that didn’t have any outcome except to scare and humiliate the person.

St. Anthony of the Desert used both faith and reasoning. And his otherworldly encounter vanished before his eyes like a mirage.

There is a reason why “they” go away when the name of Jesus Christ is invoked or even the St. Michael Archangel prayer is said…they sound the retreat.

Pray the Rosary on a a daily basis my friend. Live a life of prayer and a life of the spirit - nurtured by the Sacraments. The attacks are real manifestations.

In hoc signo vinces.