Aliens are Demons: What do you think?

[Lisa4Catholics]

Okay I can not resist stirring the pot a bit:ehh:

worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44503
Be sure to watch the video.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Matt16_18:

Rescue me from the cruel sword,
and deliver me from the hand of aliens,
whose mouths speak lies,
and whose right hand is a right hand of falsehood.
Psalm 144:11

That’s probably the most apposite post on the thread ​

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

If aliens are real - how come most of them go to the USA ?​

Why not come to the UK instead ? Is it the weather? the food ? the taxes ? Or can’t they find any where to park ? I can understand their not wanting to go to London - especially with that traffic: maybe they don’t want to pay the congestion charge; but is the traffic that much better in New York ?

Maybe they’re too intelligent - maybe they think [name of celeb here]'s an alien.

Maybe they think a planet which can come up with “The Weakest Link” is past help ##
vern humphrey:

If they come to earth, why don’t they simply walk into the UN, or the White House? If they want to contact us, surely they’re smart enough to figure out how.

Maybe they don’t think Dubya and Kofi Anan are smart enough to talk to​

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

## If aliens are real - how come most of them go to the USA ?

Why not come to the UK instead ? Is it the weather? the food ? the taxes ? Or can’t they find any where to park ? I can understand their not wanting to go to London - especially with that traffic: maybe they don’t want to pay the congestion charge; but is the traffic that much better in New York ?

Maybe they’re too intelligent - maybe they think [name of celeb here]'s an alien.

Maybe they think a planet which can come up with “The Weakest Link” is past help ##

http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/8.gifI knew John Travolta was no good
__________________I am telling you Travolta is responsible

 

[Chazemataz]

Matt16_18:

I agree.

The Nonts"I knew that I used to experience these things as a child too, and even had a ritual I’d do and a prayer I’d say when I felt them about. Back then though, I had thought they were what me and Ralph called Dream Demons. For we thought they had followed us back to our realm, from the realm of dreams. What else would you think when you start seeing the creatures of what you are told by your parents were just nightmares suddenly appearing before you when you are wide awake in the broad day light?

Then I read Communion by Whitley Strieber and after hearing him describe some of the very same creatures that not only Ralph and I had experienced, but others of my family had experienced, and then even vividly describing the very same scenarios that we had been told were just bad dreams I started to think differently about what the Dream Demons may have been. …"

I read that story. I know the secret behind these “Nonts” things.

Do you know what it is?

That guy is a schizophrenic.
All during our conversation I heard the sound of someone tinkering on the phone line and I asked this gentlemen if there was some one else there listening to our conversation and told him I didn’t mind it if there was, but he said he heard it too.
Then he asked me if I had some one on the phone listening and also said that he did not mind if I did.
I said no and told him that I live alone and had five dogs, and a cat so I knew there was no one in my home on the line.
Our conversation continued on, until I told him about my Night Watch tapes and what had appeared on them.
He said I was doing the same thing as using an Ouija Board by deciphering the letters left on my tape.
He said I was doing witchcraft and suddenly he started to shout at me that I was being visited by Satans’ hordes of hell for that was what the aliens were and the only one that could save me was Jesu…
That second a loud screeching sound like the sound they used to use on TV for the old emergency alerts during the fifties blasted out over the phone and we were disconnected.
I called him back but got a busy signal and after several attempts gave up then he called me and asked what happened he thought I had just hang up on him.
We continued our conversation until he ask me if I knew the name of the savior of the world.
I must have been too slow in answering him fore he began to shout at me,
“Say it!.. Say it!.. Say his name!.. Say it!”
And so I said “JESUS!.. Get a life!”
I never called him back after that.
My next analogical translation from the Night Watch tapes was my last one.
It was as the others were a long list of capital consonants and vowels cross the screen all written one next to the other from this I got things like.
I am malice, es me casa, I eat sole, I am hate.
Out of these I found “I eat sole.” the most interesting for sole means"

 

[Matt16_18]

Chazemataz:

I read that story. I know the secret behind these “Nonts” things.

Do you know what it is?

That guy is a schizophrenic.

Just because you are paranoid, it doesn’t mean that someone isn’t following you.

 

[Zooey]

Lisa4Catholics:

http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/8.gifI knew John Travolta was no good
__________________I am telling you Travolta is responsible

I think Lisa may be on to something here…After all, he does fly his own airplane! Who knows :bigyikes:where he goes, and:bigyikes: who he communicates with!!

 

[George789]

Lisa4Catholics:

Okay I can not resist stirring the pot a bit:ehh:

worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44503
Be sure to watch the video.

I saw that article the other day. I agree that this UFO stuff is an attempt to undermine Christianity, but this could be the work of organized “humans” such as the Freemasons or other unbelievers.

Could that “so called prophet” have a partner flying overhead in a manmade aircraft at the precise time creating the apperance of calling a UFO? There could be many other staged examples or other explainations.

I do not rule out the possibility of demons fooling people but why rule out people trying to trick other humans?

Note: If this video is correct this news story took place in Las Vegas, I do not think Christianity is good for business out there or perhaps a magician was getting his diploma?

Why does this country uphold Roe v Wade while looking for “life” on Mars?

 

[BlueKnight]

UFOs are not a delusion. I have seen one, fully awake and conscious, and I am a healthy, successful, individual with many friends and a wonderful woman. I am a rosary praying devout catholic.

Not all aliens have bad intentions some have good.

They are not all demons; they are children of God just as we are.

Some of them however, the ones involved in the abduction phenomenon are also spiritually fallen. Because of our own fallen ness we attract like or similar spiritually depraved beings.

I firmly believe that the reason for the secrecy of the alien abduction phenomenon is for two basics purposes. One, they have successfully infiltrated mankind for a great deal of time to extract substances that they need for their survival as they have fallen so far from what god intended that they can not sustain themselves as we do. Second, they cannot abduct people who are protected by god or who call upon God for help. By god I mean Jesus. I have heard from many people that prayer has averted abductions. I also know first hand that the aliens involved in abductions have extremely nefarious purposes for what they do, but can not do what they do if Christians prayed to exorcise this influence.

They have enough technology to overcome us a thousand times over. What they fear is our capacity as spiritual beings.

Therefore, please remember, use prayer always and blessed sacramental.

Why do you think the virgin is often depicted with a moon under her feet or a serpent? There is a reason. Did you notice the Chinese and Japanese recently sent satellites to the moon?

Do not be overly disturbed but pray pray pray.

BK

 

[Jaypeeto4]

UFOs are not a delusion. I have seen one, fully awake and conscious, and I am a healthy, successful, individual with many friends and a wonderful woman. I am a rosary praying devout catholic.

I saw a UFO in the summer of 1978 in the “Little Havana”
area where I lived in Miami, Florida.
I was out on the car patio playing tennis-ball with my little dog,
and I noticed a bright light, which I took to be the front light of a helicopter to my North-Northwest, in the sky near
St. John Bosco (San Juan Bosco) Catholic Church. I thought nothing of the light and continued playing catch the tennis ball with my little dog for oh, ten or twenty minutes. I happened to glance to the North-Northwest and that same light was still there in the same place, and I thought, that helicopter sure is taking a long time to get here. And it made no sound. Me and the little dog went back to our tennis ball play, and a few minutes later I looked and that light was still there, and I thought, What IS that?
I handed the tennis ball to my dog and stood there looking at that light wondering why it wasn’t moving. I watched it for a couple of minutes, when the “light” suddenly seemed to “heat up” from within itself and then slowly rose straight up into the air and began to move to the East-Southeast. It moved silently and in a straight line until it was Northeast of my house and resembled a large white dinnerplate against the night sky. I still wasn’t thinking “UFO,” rather I was still thinking “How weird.” And I stood there fascinated by it. It was perfectly still and silent.
Then all the sudden it went black. It couldn’t be seen, and I thought what the heck happened to it? And a few seconds later it came back “on” but it wasn’t white, it was blue, then it went out again, and came on green, then it went out again and came on red, then out again, then back on in it’s original bright white.
A large white “dinnerplate” in the sky. It still hadn’t hit me that this was what most people call a UFO. Then little round white lights (about the size of a white golf-ball compared to the size of a dinnerplate) began to emerge from the big light, one after the other, silently, and they lined up behind each other, about a half dozen of the little round white lights, in a perfectly straight line.
And they sat there for a few seconds, then took off in all different directions in the sky, clear across the sky, zig-zagging without curving at all, and all completely silent. Then the big white plate moved Southwest, completely silently and emitted another few small white lights in a straight line, which then took off in all directions like the first set had done. THEN it hit me, and I ran into the house and grabbed my dad and my sister and dragged them outside to watch it with me, and I got my grandmother outside and my neighbors, Mr. and Mrs. Close, from next door, out to watch this show, too, and we all watched for about an hour and a half until the things got so far away that they looked smaller than white dots. We were all astounded by what we had seen. I went inside and called the military station in Coconut Grove, and before I could say to the man the word, “UFO,” he said to me gruffly, “Those aren’t YOOFOES (UFO’s), they
are flares. They’re shooting off flares over on Key Biscayne.”
Now, Key Biscayne was to my South-Southeast.
This had started off to my North-Northwest, and I told the man so.
And the things never went Southeast of my location, not once.
And I told him so. And he again insisted that they were “flares from Key Biscayne”----- a flat-out, deliberate lie.
Anyway, that’s what I saw. My dad to this day says it was the weirdest thing he ever experienced in his entire life (he will be 80 next summer).
As for the “entities” that “abductees” say they have spoken to,
I too think those things are demonic, because in the REPORTED cases, the “entities” talk about theology and deny that Christ is the Son of God.

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

 

[agangbern]

I agree that demons can appear to men and women under the guise of aliens from other planets (or other “dimensions”). There are the UFO cults of Mount Shasta that testify to that.

Spielberg’s film, “Close Encounters of the Third Kind”, is full of the tripe of New Age religion. Roy Neary, the main character, is a man that shows all the manifestations of diabolical obsession.

There is no sufficient basis to make a generalization that aliens are demons, if ever it is true that there are really aliens in the concept extra-terrestrial beings.

 

[Jaypeeto4]

bump
(cuz this is an interesting thread)

 

[BlueKnight]

According to one catholic expert aliens are not demons. They even suggest that aliens may be higher then humans in that on their planets, they may have not fallen to original sin as humans have.

youtube.com/watch?v=l7y7XPL5isA

ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1804.htm

weirdload.com/vat-ufo1.html

Furthermore some ufo experts believe the military industrial complex, who has ARVs, or alien reproduction vehicles, have staged frightening and diabolical faked alien abducations to spread fear and hatred towards aliens.

The reason for this is to gain funding for the weaponization of space and to further gain control over humanity. These people are not doing this in the best interest of the US government and do not answer to the courts of law and are illegal. They have no legal claim to what they are doing.

While some researchers are unsure to the benign nature of some aliens, the question of whether they are demons has never been a part of their thought process.

Wake up Catholics.

BK

 

[Jaypeeto4]

I should mention that many years ago,
one of my neighbors was a Mr. J. Manson Valentine,
and I knew Mr. Valentine and his beautiful wife quite well.
They were well respected in South Florida social circles.
Mr. Valentine was a scholar and paranormal researcher as well.
He co-authored the book THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE
by Charles Berlitz, which was popular a couple of decades ago.
One time, when I was helping Mr. Valentine with his yardwork,
I asked him about the book THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE
( I hadn’t read it, but I saw his name on the title/author page ).
I asked him what HE thought was causing some of the disappearances in the Triangle, and he told me matter of factly, and rather emphatically, that there were UFOs out in the Triangle. I pressed Mr. Valentine to elaborate, and he described that on several of his research boat trips in the Triangle he had witnessed UFOs coming out of, and going down into,
the Ocean. This was a very down to earth, sane, and intelligent man. He didn’t believe in little green men. He was dead serious.
I just thought I would mention that.
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

 

[RomanCrusader]

I think its certainly a possibility.

Aliens have a very occultish, new age following. This is a red flag.

 

[BlueKnight]

Yes I agree it is a red flag. But don’t presume that it is because an alien species is purpsofully propagating error with malicious intent. It might be that they honestly don’t know much about the human soul and that though their technological advancement supercedes our own, the revelation of Christ and Christianity might be a spiritual advancement so far ahead of their understanding, that their belief system spreads error amongst humans who assume that because their technolagy is hundreds of thousands of years ahead of ours that their spirituality and theology is as well.

Also, there is a great deal of evidence that there are many different types of aliens visiting earth with very different believe systems, social structures, and physical appearances.

It is my opinion that Jesus will use his second coming at the “end times” as a way to convert miraculously the many different alien species who are visiting this backwater planet to watch the ultimate in perverse reality shows of mankind destroying itself through his return in power to save us.

BK

 

[CindiA]

What a lot of you people are talking abotu is Sleep Paralysis. i have it too:
meta-religion.com/Psychiatry/Disorders/sleep_paralysis.htm

But that only accounts for less than half of the alien abduction cases.

All I can say is that I was NOT asleep and it was not sleep paralysis. I did indeed encounter an alien ship. I was not asleep and I was not on drugs. I also was not alone. We were not caught up onto the ship, but we did indeed see the same thing. Several of us watched the same thing going on. It has been a little more than 20 years ago, but I still remember it like it was today. It wasn’t scary or anything. It was just a matter of fact kind of thing that several of us saw and couldn’t account for it as to be anything other than extra-normal. I asked my pastor and he only could tell me that that God never said that it couldn’t happen. Call me silly… I just know what I saw first hand.

Besides, I’ve always wondered what the Bible means when it talks about “sheep of a different pasture.” Could that possibly mean that God is giving us a hint that He has created sheep from another world? I know that probably sounds outlandish to most, but could it possibly be true?

 

[BlueKnight]

It is true. Though I don’t know if that bibilical passage was directed to that aspect.

As for sleep paralysis explaining the UFO phenomenon I wish to comment. I’m a physician who’s many roles includes being an expert on sleep just below a sleep specialist.

Sleep paralysis does involve a sense that other “entities” are around the individual which induces paranoia in the victim until he is able to awaken himself and see around him that he is in fact alone in his room. It is also a fully concious state where one has zero concious motor control.

However this does not involve what one might hear or see behind one’s closed eyelids. Also, one does not generally hallucinate in this state, though people have reported bizarr stories such as someone trying to suffocate them or suck their soul out of them.

However, it is known that some UFO abducations do involve the extraction of some kind of “energy” from its victims with is not the soul, but is not phsyical. Obviously, depending on who you ask, varied interpretations of what is really going on can occur. However I can personally vouch for the aspect of enery extraction. However, this energy extraction does not necessarily lead to any deleterious effects on the victim, unless accidental and the part of the victim, as far as I can tell. I don’t wish to specify more on that. Lastly, it is possible that an unkown percentage of sleep paralysis cases are in fact alien abductions in the early or latter stages of an abduction.

Also, alien abducation involves totally paralyzing to varrying degrees and rendering passive its victims before they are moved to an alien ship or returned to their original position. Often clues of differentiating whether or not it was just sleep paralysis or an alien abduction event involve suttle changes in the evironement, clothes, or position of the victim. For example, you wake up and find you pj’s are on inside out while you put them on the right way before going to bed or you might find your head where your feet are and your feet where your head is. Suttle clues, yet telling.

Lastly, do not think that aliens necessarily have an “evil” agenda. Much of what they do is way beyond our understanding and there is a propaganda movement by certain elments to demonize them. While some reports account for military actions against UFOs leading to downed UFO craft and killed aliens, with the Aliens reportedly not fighting back unless it was in self defense. This is a key point.

Aliens are just as capable of good and evil as humans are, but I think when it comes to human and aliens relations, humans have come up blatantly hostile, while the aliens remain elusive in their agenda.

In other words, if you realize your an abductee don’t freak out, just educate yourself, and if you are suffering psychological trauma seek help, and don’t let other know so as to avoid ridicule.

BK

 

[Unitas]

Well… you tell me…
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/extras/art/images/1.jpg

Demons require the Ordo Malleus.

These require the Ordo Xenos, CM

For the Emperor.

 

[BlueKnight]

That was clever, funny, and artistic.