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Lampo
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How do YOU know it is inspired-inerrant? Because the Bible tells you so?
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justasking4
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Where those scriptures are implicit it has.
I agree. What else besides the scriptures are inspired-inerrant?
Thats not what i meant. I agree that the Christians of the 1st century did not have the full NT canon.
God is the author and source of the Scriptures not the church. He used the church to discover what the canon was.
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brkn1
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How do you account for the fact that the same chapter of Samuel describes God dwelling between the Cherubims which is NOT inside the Ark?
The type or prefigurement you want to claim of Jesus being inside the Ark is completely overridden by the God already actually being above the Ark.
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brkn1
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So bishops can marry as Paul requires for qualifying to be such a bishop?
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Faith5
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Amen as to the Scriptures involving Jesus healing anyone.
I don’t know any of my fellow Catholics who believe Jesus can’t
heal and all of them know Jesus can not be corrupted.
Christ did not partake in the corrupt spirit of Mary because God
saved Mary from corruption. This is God’s plan. Jesus had flesh
formed from Mary–by God’s grace–no corruption here. I
visualize the arm of God outstretched in front of Mary-
preventing her from falling in a mud pit. I always liked the
analogy. But you are right about hostility existing from the
fall but it took some distant generation (in the fullness of time)
for God to have His eternal plan play out.
Sacred Scripture can and does apply to past and future generations. Jesus wasn’t specifically mentioned in Genesis
so can we say the Scripture doesn’t apply to Jesus. Jesus
didn’t receive his earthly flesh until much later in history.
Yes it’s about Eve in Genesis together with a future plan by
God directly involving Mary. In eternity as the Queen of Heaven.
As Jesus said, “Peace be with you!”
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Lampo
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Things that Jesus did and said that are not in Scripture. You don’t agree?
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Lampo
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So how did they go by sola scriptura?
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steve_b
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Celibacy is Church discipline not Dogma
If 1 Tim 3 was saying bishops and deacons MUST be married, it would contradict what Jesus says in Mt 19 or what Paul said in 1 Cor 7.
Jesus said celebacy is a good thing for the kingdom
Mt 19:11-12
Those who give up marriage for Jesus will be repaid 100 times
Mt 19:29
And Paul agreed with celebacy
1 Cor 7:1-8
brkn:
Re: forbidding marriage, that pertains to a broad ban on marriage. Otherwise Paul would be contradicting himself in 1 Cor 7:1-9 above and contradicting Jesus in Mt 19, above.
Regarding fasting, there is no prohibition from that.
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estesbob
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If they dont take a vow a celibacy-there are married Bishops in Eastern Rite Churchs. As to whehter Bishops are required to married-of course not unless one wants to make profound theological statements based on their personal interpretation of a single line of Scripture.
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brkn1
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If RCC discipline does not allow a bishop to be married as Paul recommended, then it is not following the traditions and instructions put forth on this matter in the Bible.
Why did Jesus chose Peter, if Peter was already a married man?
The example of Peter would seem to indicate that the Pope should be married also.
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Lampo
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How do you know Peter was married when Jesus chose him?
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Genesis315
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Paul doesn’t recommend bishops be married, he is saying one marriage is the most allowed. In fact, what he recommends is celibacy, so they will only be solicitous of things of the Lord.
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peary
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believers;3480519:
To be full of grace, or ‘filled’ with grace is to find the absence of sin.
**Mary was saved before her conception, this has been stated, and scripture given. But many here are not seeking truth with their hearts, rather seeking to devour anything Catholic.
This is a good example of pre-destination.
I hope this answers your post. But in reality, I know, all though you proclaim to be a bible believer, yet, When God says Mary is Full of Grace, Highly favored one of God. You amazingly find a way to dispute God’s word, and blame it on the Catholic church for believing God at his word.
Yep, those fundies…gotta love 'em!
If you are looking for your Mother the Virgin Mary, she is through and through in sacred Scripture. You say she is not there, because you look, but you cant see. Here is a tip, Pray, and seek her in scripture with your heart and she will reveal herself to you.
God placed a woman at the central point of our salvation. Imagine that!
To the Roman Catholic, the bible is not just words on a page. The Word of God is alive, and the Word of God is lived through the Roman Catholic life and worship.
For me, the Holy Spirit has done a wonderful work in preserving the Blessed Mother from sin, and to keep her hidden beneath the veil of the Sacred Scriptures from Satan touch of sin.
These are the four Marian doctrines you must come to believe to be Catholic. Mary is Mother of God (incarnate), Mary is the immaculate conception, Mary is a perpetual virgin, even after giving birth to Jesus ( this is in the sacred scriptures also), Mary is assumed body and soul into heaven.
This thread on her sinless life, is a matter of faith and is worthy of belief.**
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elt1956
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Actually sin exists in infants only if one believes in Original Sin as the Catholic Church teaches. The Church sometimes has a pessamistic view of humans, but that’s the way it goes.
Peace.
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elt1956
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All I have got to say is, "If all of us “know” the perfect answer, or reason for a belief, why do we need God, or the Church, or the Bible? Peace.
Peace.
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honeysuckle
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As others here have already eloquently said, everything that Jesus and his apostles taught to the Church is inspired and inerrant, because, logically, the Scriptures were first Tradition. Accepting and understanding that sacred Tradition came before sacred Scripture, you accept and understand that Traditions of the Church that have been miraculously preserved for 2,000 years are inspired of God.
This is Protestant semantics. The Church wrote the Bible and limited the canon. This is why Fundamentalists are so vulnerable to the attacks of secularism, because non-believers point this out, and instead of agreeing, and saying, Amen, the Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth according to Sacred Scripture, there is nothing wrong with the Chuch limiting the canon, Fundamentalists appeal to the idea that the New Testament had nothing to do with mere humans, only the hand of God was present. This clearly is untrue.
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Giovanni
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I am sure I am repeating what someone may have already said and what us catholics know to be true.
How can God dwell where sin is present. That does not happen, thus the Immaculate Conception and everything else that has to do with God’s perfect sinless creation, my Mother and God’s Mother. That is the truth, and if some don’t believe it, that’s just too bad. No argument. Just thick headed individuals who think they know better.
How can God dwell where sin is present. That does not happen, thus the Immaculate Conception and everything else that has to do with God’s perfect sinless creation, my Mother and God’s Mother. That is the truth, and if some don’t believe it, that’s just too bad. No argument. Just thick headed individuals who think they know better.
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honeysuckle
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This is also why you find people like that guy that wrote Misquoting Jesus. If you aren’t familiar with him, he’s a former Fundamentalist eduated by the Moody Bible institute. He was passionately committed to the Bible-only ideas.
He started becoming more educated, and found some “problems” with the text, and his entire belief system crashed into nothing. He is now some kind of agnostic or atheist who writes books designed to destry others’ faith.
THAT is the consequence of making the Bible a god! If he had been Catholic, he would have seen the same beauty Holy Spirit that he saw in scripture present in the Mass and in our traditions, and known that there was no way to deny God (IMO).
Think about it… There was a Muslim on here who said that he turned from Christianity because Mohammed wrote a book word for word, and Jesus didn’t.
Why didn’t Jesus write a book?
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happychristian
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I know this have been repeatedly said already but I just want to contribute to the simplest tem possibly as my faith is as simple as that of a child.
Grace ,I believe is the opposite of sin, so when the archangel Gabriel delivered the message of GOD HIMSELF to Mary , Hail full of GRACE, she is exactly like that full of grace without any sin.
Second can anyone please explain to me this one? How can a water remain pure and clean if the vessel holding the water is dirty? Jesus being GOD Incarnate and the WORD who dwelt among us is the pure and holy water and Mary chosen by GOD HIMSELF to be the vessel. Mary was cleansed from the stain of original sin and sin thereafter to carry JESUS the clean living water.
Another is, if Mary was a sinner, how can be JESUS be credible to the people He will preach later on? People will not believe Him to be the SON of GOD the Messiah promised to them if people knew that Mary was a sinner. How can we accept Jesus to be the son of God if His Mother is a sinner?
Lastly if Mary is not the Immaculate Conception and was conceived with original sin then Jesus who is GOD will inherit that original sin from His mother. But that is not possible because the very nature of GOD is oppossite of sin.
Am I making sense? Please anyone I need an honest charitable person to reply to this. Thanks.
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Grace ,I believe is the opposite of sin, so when the archangel Gabriel delivered the message of GOD HIMSELF to Mary , Hail full of GRACE, she is exactly like that full of grace without any sin.
Second can anyone please explain to me this one? How can a water remain pure and clean if the vessel holding the water is dirty? Jesus being GOD Incarnate and the WORD who dwelt among us is the pure and holy water and Mary chosen by GOD HIMSELF to be the vessel. Mary was cleansed from the stain of original sin and sin thereafter to carry JESUS the clean living water.
Another is, if Mary was a sinner, how can be JESUS be credible to the people He will preach later on? People will not believe Him to be the SON of GOD the Messiah promised to them if people knew that Mary was a sinner. How can we accept Jesus to be the son of God if His Mother is a sinner?
Lastly if Mary is not the Immaculate Conception and was conceived with original sin then Jesus who is GOD will inherit that original sin from His mother. But that is not possible because the very nature of GOD is oppossite of sin.
Am I making sense? Please anyone I need an honest charitable person to reply to this. Thanks.
Pax Domini
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steve_b
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What part of 1 Cor 7:1-8, 27-33 do you disagree with?
The Catholic Church selects from those like Paul who can accept celibacy.
Re: Peter, even though he had a mother in law, she would still be his mother in law even if his wife had died. Or maybe he was living as if he had no wife as Paul said in [1 Cor 7:29] We DO know that the work load is heavy and having a wife and kids, is hard to balance with everything else required in ministry
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