Evil must be resisted, no matter where it rears it’s ugly head. When Catholic clerics do evil, or Catholic Polticians do evil,they must be resisted. The same is true whether they are Protestants, Pagans, etc. The evil does not belong to the Holy Bride of Christ,but to the fallen nature of men who, though they may claim to be Christian, do not walk in His way.
Nope - I didn’t say that. You can read what I said but it wasn’t that.
I didn’t say anything about martyrdom or commitment to one’s beliefs.
Nope - didn’t say that either. Probably all there, except for the guy that called, convened, presided at and participated in the debates at the council and then threatened with exile or death those that didn’t get with the program (Constantine) were Christian.
Newflash - The RCC is the a denomination.
Are you sick of it when the RCC claims to be the true church?
Huh?
The Catholic Church is not a denomination - it is a Church, in fact it is the Church.
Yup, it all started when the heresiarch Martin Luther was deceived by Satan and his own pride and ego and left the Church Christ founded. Every other Protestant ecclesial community has followed in his misguided footsteps.
Jesus gave Peter the power to bind and loose. In the original Greek, these are literally legal terms. The things that were subject under binding and loosing were evident in the Acts of the Apostles. The RCC has made a carnival out of these passages unrighteously. For the pope to declare things either absent from Scripture or contrary to Scripture and label them as truths previously unknown and declare them in the power of infallibility is nothing short of heretical.
That’s a demonstrably false claim:
Deceived by Satan???
This is a thread about the apostasy, but thanks for joining
Thank you, Snow.
So your post about the childishness of theology is relevant to The Great Apostasy - the supposed loss of authority in the early Christian church 2000 years ago?
Ok, let’s get this fixed once and for all. I am tired of hear that the “protestant” movement “STARTED” with Martin Luther. IT DID NOT. Throughtout the history of the church, long before Luther there were reformation movements, most of which were suppressed and attacked by the powers of the “church” that did not wish to hear that there were errors within their precious theology. However, these errors were proven by many before Luther. What happened with Luther and all those after him was that the pot finally boiled over and those how were aware of the errors just got sick and tired of following a church leadership that was in error. Face it, the “church” was not perfect then and it is not perfect now.
Well, you’re partially correct. It’s a church. It’s also a denomination. It used to be considered a cult.
**Speaking as a Roman Catholic, you are not correct. The Catholic church is the body of Jesus Christ, read Pauls epistle Ephesians 4-6. The Body of Jesus Christ (Catholic church) has not denominated from any man made religion. And yes the Catholic church is a cult, she has always believed in Jesus and followed the Traditional Worship given to us by Jesus and the apostles in the Mass.
Well, you will have to substantiate such a preposterous claim. Show us the evidence, as the OP states. I think this is a fabrication that anti-Catholics use to justify disobedience to the teaching authority appointed by Christ.
If the bishops failed to hold to the Apostolic teaching out of fear of reprisal from the emperor, then they were not sufficiently committed to their beliefs to risk punishment or martyrdom. There were such atrocities against Christians in the first 300 years of the Church it is likely that, had Constantine not de-crimminialized Christianity that Christians would have continued to be persecuted and killed. Your formulation is suggesting that the bishops, after 300 years of giving their lives for the faith, suddenly were overcome with cowardice, and abandoned the faith of the Apostles out of fear for their own welfare.
Constantine was highly motivated to repair the schism caused in Christendom by the Arian heresy. He compelled the bishops to attend because this heresy was interfering with the political an economic functioning of the empire. The Trinitarian Christians were excommunicating the Arians and vice versa. Constantine favored Arianism, s you will have to explain how, when the bishops were under threat of death and exile, they came up with a solution opposite of what he preferred. You will also have to explain how all those bishops became filled with cowardice, and were no longer wiling to uphold the faith which had been entrusted to their care, and for which their predecessors had given their lives. Do you think there was a pestilence of backbone dissolving influenza that mysteriously infected them?
No
Yes.
Yes, and you have proven that your opening line is false. To denominate means to separate and delineate from something else. All the deniminations were formed (and continue to form) through how they differentiate themselves from Catholicism.
Is it? I did not realize. This is good, because I am very interested in some evidence of the supposed Apostasy of the Catholic Church.
I believe you are correct. However, in the earlier days, they were not called Protestants or separated brethren. They were simply heretics, and were treated as such.
Truer words cannot be spoken.
By golly, I take that back! Truer words have now been spoken!
Men are always in need of reform, it is true, and it is very sick and tiring to follow leaders who are in error. We have reference to Jannes and Jambres opposing Moses, and rebellion against the Authority appointed by God has been going on since the Garden of Eden.
There are also instances in the scriptures wherein the leadership has gone astray and it was given to the followers to point those errors out to the leadership, in some cases they were heeded, in others they were not. It both, consequences were meted out in accordance to the action of the leadership.
