All liturgies evolved from Antiochean liturgy

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All the liturgies existing in the world formed from Antiochean liturgy. Mainly Byzantine, Latin all of them. Before 3rd or 4th century there were no such like Byzantine.
That is why Church of Antioch is called mother and head of all the Christian churches.
 
** That is why Church of Antioch is called mother and head of all the Christian churches.**

**By whom?

In Byzantine theology, the Church of Jerusalem is called the mother of the Churches in liturgical texsts.**
 
I have observed that all churches are trying to degrade or devalue the church of antioch. The eastern church or Byzantine clearly knew that it has evolved from Antioch. See in AD381, Contstantinople bishop was elevated as Patriarch and most of the territories belonging to Antioch were made part of constantinople.
Its liturgy is the most beautiful, but it has evolved from Antiochean liturgy. Rome, byzantine all know the importance of church of Antioch, so they will surely hide these facts.
Because of political reasons, for example pressure from Roman emperor, these churches got importance. Even many patriarchs of antioch had to go exile in fear of Emperor and Byzantine parties. At a time there were only 4 bishops in the church of Antioch.
 
Actually, the Jewish ritual is the original source of ALL Christian liturgies, even the Antiochian.
 
india_ker_pala said:
I have observed that all churches are trying to degrade or devalue the church of antioch.
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I have seen a lot of people trying to promote antioch past it’s proper place, a place subordinate to Rome by all the councils. (the question is HOW subordinate.)

Peter lead from Rome, and passed on his authority in Rome. Antioch still listened to Peter after he established and handed off a see in Antioch.

Jerusalem was the first See, and that of Peter and then James. The Liturgy of Antioch was derived from Peter, and Peter carried his liturgy from Jerusalem through Antioch to Rome.

Likewise, the Liturgy of Alexandria was derived from that of Jerusalem, carried to Egypt by St. Mark.
 
I have observed that all churches are trying to degrade or devalue the church of antioch.
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I’m certainly not. It’s a great and glorious church with a rich spiritual heritage, producing saints even to this day–one of the latest is St. Raphael Hawaweeny.

And I attend a Melkite Church, which is pure Antiochian.**
 
I’ve been meaning to ask this for the past few days, but this thread was the straw. No way, no how is what this OP-er portrays the position of the Syriac Orthodox Church.

So, today being the swan-song of 2008, is the day.

Is it just my imagination or have any other of our regular brethren noticed a similarity in tone and content of the OP-er to another poster with a different (but it seems to me “related”) user ID? What I am thinking of was probably about 6-8 weeks (or so) ago. If memory serves, the precedent case was a “lost cause.” This appears to be one too.
 
malphono said:
I’ve been meaning to ask this for the past few days, but this thread was the straw. No way, no how is what this OP-er portrays the position of the Syriac Orthodox Church.

So, today being the swan-song of 2008, is the day.

Is it just my imagination or have any other of our regular brethren noticed a similarity in tone and content of the OP-er to another poster with a different (but it seems to me “related”) user ID? What I am thinking of was probably about 6-8 weeks (or so) ago. If memory serves, the precedent case was a “lost cause.” This appears to be one too.
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Or in more simpler terms… you suspect a sock puppet identity at work.

You know… writing style is probably the biggest give away on that sort of thing.
 
Addai said:
Or in more simpler terms… you suspect a sock puppet identity at work.

You know… writing style is probably the biggest give away on that sort of thing.
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Yep. And double yep. The writing styles seem to be far too similar (from what I recall it’s identical or very nearly so) to be coincidental.

Anyway, I wasted time with this tripe the first go-round. Not making that mistake again this go round.
 
malphono said:
I’ve been meaning to ask this for the past few days, but this thread was the straw. No way, no how is what this OP-er portrays the position of the Syriac Orthodox Church.

So, today being the swan-song of 2008, is the day.

Is it just my imagination or have any other of our regular brethren noticed a similarity in tone and content of the OP-er to another poster with a different (but it seems to me “related”) user ID? What I am thinking of was probably about 6-8 weeks (or so) ago. If memory serves, the precedent case was a “lost cause.” This appears to be one too.
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Yeah I recall exactly what you are talking about. He sounds exactly the same as this guy.
 
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