The roots of psychology are in both philosophy and biology. Psychology began with philosophical questions and then brought these questions into the laboratory to study them. However, modern psychology has become so specialized that its practitioners have often forgotten the philosophical roots of their science, if they ever knew them to begin with.
The problem is that philosophy doesn’t give you any answers. Take for example the question of capital punishment, Is it right or wrong? Should slaves in reverent fear of God submit themselves to their masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh? Should wives submit themselves to their husbands, as is fitting in the Lord?
Philosophy helps us frame good questions, which are necessary for the purpose of finding good answers. And philosophy helps us think clearly and logically in the process of searching for answers. Without good questions and clear thinking, good solutions to problems are not possible. As in the sciences, methodology is key to discovery.
Yes, you are right. But Philosophy by itself tends to stick its nose in various disciplines/subjects, as they are not restricted to a specific object of study. It gets difficult (or outright impossible) to say who influenced who most of the time. (it is mostly mutual symbiosis - one science helps another, and both advance together)
Well said
I don’t agree with that at all.
A better analogy would be this: “Since it is inconceivable that all of the captured men are Spartacus, the most reasonable conclusion is that none of them are Spartacus.”
With the possible exception of an agnostic who “really doesn’t know whether he believes in anything or not.”
Has anyone ever told you that Christians do not believe this?
So, still no evidence?
Oh, I do not expect to persuade you.
An agnostic may not identify with an established religion, but they have to believe something in order to live.
Ah but beliefs isn’t quite the same as having a belief system that one believes to be the true one, is it?
You can make a case that not every person subscribes to an established belief system, but every human being has a set of beliefs, and they believe them to be true. Even the person who says “God is BS” has a belief. They may not attempt to convert others to these truths, or proclaim to others that what they believe is true, but still the belief is held and believed to be true.
I admit I am splitting hairs, but to say that someone believes that they hold the true beliefs necessarily implies that they think that anyone who doesn’t so believe is wrong. That isn’t true of relativists who believe that two people can hold diametrically opposite beliefs and they can both accurately claim that what they believe is true.
I agree with you on this point. I would go further and claim that we are all hard wired to seek God. This, to me, explains a lot of the illogical and convoluted moralisms employed by many “atheists.” Much of the time they are attempting to silence the call to God that they can always hear, however quietly, coming from the deepest corner of their hearts.
Good point. Relativists believe is is true that two opposing beliefs can be true.
Here are some examples of where there is 100% agreement,.
Observations that are revealed in nature and commonly observed!
I still do not agree. There are known isolated tribes of indigenous peoples who have never heard of the Atlantic Ocean or the Black Sea, let alone political entities like the United States, Italy, Europe, Ethiopia or Russia. There are the “birthers” in America who deny that Obama is the President of the United States. There are huge swaths of US citizens who have absolutely no idea how the Supreme Court works.
Welcome to my world. :tiphat:Good point. Relativists believe [it] is true that two opposing beliefs can be true.
I am losing my mind now.
I think its a smoke screen of sorts from the real issue. It tries to reduce God to a religion. Rather than seeking the God with a sincere heart. It tries to lose him in the smoke screen of ‘religion’. Well which religion is correct? Even if all religions were wrong it has no bearing on whether God exists or not. No one, including the atheist, can really know fully with any honesty God’s mind. To say that if there was a God then he would act a certain way and if he doesn’t act that way then he must not exist, like he would make it obvious which religion is true, or make it obvious he exists to everyone, is really foolish. They really do not know God’s mind well enough to say that he should act according to their preconceptions.