Once is enough. You have a 2 for 1 this year.okay, so let me be clear.
For Holy days of obligation that falls on Sunday, we only need to attend Mass once only to fulfill obligation for Sunday Mass & Holy Days of Obligation?
Uh, that is wrong information for one living in the USA for sure (other countries, not sure). If a Holy Day of Obligation falls on a Saturday or a Monday, it is NOT a Holy Day of obligation, so you are not obligated to attend mass. The only exception is the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.that will be your Sunday Mass liturgy. AFAIK, there won’t be a separate liturgy. Now if it was on a MONDAY, then you’d have to go to Mass on Monday or maybe Sunday night and a regular sunday liturgy with sunday weekend readings would not count. But this year is different and All Saints is Sunday so the Sunday Mass IS for All Saints.
When an HDO such as All Saints or the Assumption falls on Sunday, it simply replaces whatever Sunday Mass would have otherwise have been celebrated that day.Hey all,
I got a quick question, this year, All Saints’ Day falls on Sunday. Does that mean we have to attend mass twice or once is enough?
Thanks & God bless you.
Let’s be clear here: That is true of all HDOs, except in the USA when the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception falls on a Sunday. That Sunday is then celebrated as an Advent Sunday and the Holy Day and obligation to attend mass is transferred to Monday the 9th. That just happened a few years ago and is obligated for this Solemnity only. Let us not forget also, as I mentioned before, if the other HDOs fall on a Saturday or Monday, the obligation is abrogated. Then their is Ascension which in most dioceses, it is transferred to the following Sunday.When an HDO such as All Saints or the Assumption falls on Sunday, it simply replaces whatever Sunday Mass would have otherwise have been celebrated that day.
I believe I can state without fear of contradiction, that nowhere in Church law will you find a requirement to attend Mass twice in one day, for any reason. I have never heard of such a thing in all of my 45 years.
Uh, that is wrong information for one living in the USA for sure (other countries, not sure). If a Holy Day of Obligation falls on a Saturday or a Monday, it is NOT a Holy Day of obligation, so you are not obligated to attend mass. The only exception is the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception.
No, let’s be REALLY clear here: In the USA, it is not only the Immaculate Conceptions that retains the obligation when the HDO falls on a Saturday or Monday. When Christmas Day falls on a Saturday or Monday, the obligation remains.Let’s be clear here: That is true of all HDOs, except in the USA when the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception falls on a Sunday. That Sunday is then celebrated as an Advent Sunday and the Holy Day and obligation to attend mass is transferred to Monday the 9th. That just happened a few years ago and is obligated for this Solemnity only. Let us not forget also, as I mentioned before, if the other HDOs fall on a Saturday or Monday, the obligation is abrogated. Then their is Ascension which in most dioceses, it is transferred to the following Sunday.
Vince, what makes you think otherwise?okay, so let me be clear.
For Holy days of obligation that falls on Sunday, we only need to attend Mass once only to fulfill obligation for Sunday Mass & Holy Days of Obligation?
LOL! I stand corrected! I my mind, Christmas was understood as being one of the major HDOs that falls in this category. I should have been more clear; I know Christmas falls in the same category, but I wanted to mention the “other” HDOs that can be abrogated except IC. Thanks for helping me clarify this for all.No, let’s be REALLY clear here: In the USA, it is not only the Immaculate Conceptions that retains the obligation when the HDO falls on a Saturday or Monday. When Christmas Day falls on a Saturday or Monday, the obligation remains.
Read the link that someone else already posted on this: usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/canon-law/complementary-norms/canon-1246.cfm
In the US: The observance is transferred to Monday. The obligation to attend Mass is not.Let’s be clear here: That is true of all HDOs, except in the USA when the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception falls on a Sunday. That Sunday is then celebrated as an Advent Sunday and the Holy Day and obligation to attend mass is transferred to Monday the 9th.
Yes.If I attend the 4Pm or 4:30PM Mass on Saturday, will this fulfill my obligation for All Saints Day?
Holy Days are not “abrogated.” If a Holy Day were abrogated, it would cease to exist altogether. That’s not what happens.LOL! I stand corrected! I my mind, Christmas was understood as being one of the major HDOs that falls in this category. I should have been more clear; I know Christmas falls in the same category, but I wanted to mention the “other” HDOs that can be abrogated except IC. Thanks for helping me clarify this for all.
Uh, that’s what I said regarding a Holy Day when transferred from Sunday to Monday as in the case of the Immaculate Conception. Advent Sunday trumps IC, but still remains a HDO and the obligation remains on Monday.In the US: The observance is transferred to Monday. The obligation to attend Mass is not.
In some countries, such as the United States, bishops dispense the faithful from the obligation of assisting at Mass when holy days of obligation fall or are transferred to a Saturday or a Monday. This may be done through a general law promulgated by the bishops’ conference with the approval of the Holy See. This is the case of the United States although, in that country, the Immaculate Conception remains a holy day of obligation when Dec. 8 falls on Saturday or a Monday but not when it falls on a Sunday and the celebration is transferred to Monday, Dec. 9, as happened this year. source]
I really know that and I’m sure others knew what I meant and you know that I know Holy Days cannot be abrogated, just the obligation to attend mass for which I was referring. Simple Catholicism 101.Holy Days are not “abrogated.” If a Holy Day were abrogated, it would cease to exist altogether. That’s not what happens.
People use that word all the time. It does not apply. We really should keep the vocabulary straight here.
In some cases, the obligation to attend Mass might be abrogated for a particular day, but Holy Days themselves are not abrogated.
Not exactly.Uh, that’s what I said regarding a Holy Day when transferred from Sunday to Monday as in the case of the Immaculate Conception. Advent Sunday trumps IC, but still remains a HDO and the obligation remains on Monday.
Thank you for your response. I don’t believe your answer applies to all countries and probably in some dioceses in the USA. I did some research now and back then about this and the answer is not black and white. The answers I received was that in some places the transfer to Monday, the 9th is still considered a Holy Day and the obligation to attend mass sticks for the IC. This is so typical of getting a clear answer to a Catholic question…not you, just a statement.Not exactly.
The observance of the Holy Day (in this case, Immaculate Conception) is moved to Monday, but the obligation to attend Mass does not apply.
Parishes are required to observe the day on Monday, but there is not a corresponding obligation to attend Mass.
Generally speaking, when a Holy Day is transferred, the obligation is likewise transferred. In this particular situation, when the US Conference of Bishops moves the Immaculate Conception to Monday they also dispense from the obligation on that particular day for that year only.
Can you tells us which dioceses retain the obligation to attend Mass?Thank you for your response. I don’t believe your answer applies to all countries and probably in some dioceses in the USA. I did some research now and back then about this and the answer is not black and white. The answers I received was that in some places the transfer to Monday, the 9th is still considered a Holy Day and the obligation to attend mass sticks for the IC. This is so typical of getting a clear answer to a Catholic question…not you, just a statement.