Allah is Above what you think and imagine

[a_slave_of_God]

And I fear not to call to him “Father” as he is my Father. And I fear not to approach him, for He has called to me. And I do not worry, for his SON Jesus is at my side. And I have no worries, for the Holy Spirit is always with me to comfort and guide me. And, through it all, in this world of sorrow, I am not scared like a slave, I am bold, for I am a son of the LIVING TRIUNE GOD.

You are the children of God and we are His disgraced people, yes?

Glorified and Exalted is God, Above having a son

They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah, if He had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth? Allah’s is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He createth what He will. And Allah is Able to do all things. (17)
The Jews and Christians say: We are children of Allah and His loved ones. Say: Why then doth He chastise you for your sins? Nay, ye are but mortals of His creating. He forgiveth whom He will, and chastiseth whom He will. Allah’s is the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, and unto Him is the journeying. (18)

O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you to make things plain unto you after an interval (of cessation) of the messengers, lest ye should say: There came not unto us a messenger of cheer nor any warner. Now hath a messenger of cheer and a warner come unto you. Allah is Able to do all things. (19)

Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud. (82)

When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messengers, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth. They say: Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses. (83)

Why should we not believe in Allah and that which hath come unto us of the Truth. And (how should we not) hope that our Lord will bring us in along with righteous folk? (84) Allah hath rewarded them for that their saying - Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide for ever. That is the reward of the good. (85)

I am a slave of God my Beloved Creator.

Welcome to the Catholic Answers Forums.

Thank you very much,

May Allah reward you a good reward.

 

[jakasaki]

You are the children of God and we are His disgraced people, yes?

Glorified and Exalted is God, Above having a son

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Jesus is the Son of God - allah has no partner remember… so, not the same!

In the name of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit,
Bless Us All,
Amen!

 

[GraceDK]

This is the first topic I write here, so I like to begin with the most beautiful word in the world, that is:

(La ilah illaa Allah)

This is the secret of the existence.

for this word we are created, and for this word there are Heaven and Hell, and according to this word you will be judged,
so if you satisfy this word you will go to Paradise, but if you refuse this truth you will go to Hell.
For this greatest truth God glory be to Him send the prophets peace be upon them.

Part of the people says that there is no God
And part of the people says that there are many gods
And we say that: there is only One God, no gods beside Him.

so, Quickly come to The Most Generous One
So that you will be forgiven

Ask Him as much as you can
He is The Rich and owns The Heaven

The good things is in His Holy Hands
Ask Him more and see what happen

You can never hold in a glass
The whole sea, How can that fit in?

and because of the Greatness of God
He is above what you think and imagine

There is no comparable unto Him
The Most High, The All Rich, Oft forgiving

The King, The Holy, The Mighty as well
you usually loose, but He always wins

The Gracious, The Peace, The All Powerful
The Wise, The light of Earth and Heavens

The Guider, The Judge, The Truth and The Just
His word pushes the dead to listen

The Noble, The Lord, The Glorious and The Firm
The first, The Last, The Evident and The Hidden

The Giver of life, The taker of life
Every thing dies, but He The Living

The nature does not create, but God
He said Be so see what happened

Jesus peace be upon him was
This is a sign for men and Jinn

Also the fire was cold, and peace
When Abraham, was thrown therein

Will as you wish, if God hadn’t willed
the only thing you can do is nothing

Allah is The Ever Lasting Refuge
without my Lord everything is nothing

Blessed be the Owner of Majesty and Nobility
Allah The Supreme, The Creator, The Knowing

The Praise worthy One, none as His likeness
He is the One, The Hearer, The Seeing

And since He is The Most Generous One
It is one of three conditions

Either to give you what you ask
Or prevent a harm from touching you
Or to give you more in Heaven

Finally, I would like to thank all the prophets who invites us to God and His grace especially our prophet:

Mohammad is gentle, Mohammad is light
Mohammad the prophet was very polite

Mohammad was telling only truth
Mohammad was honest, Mohammad is right

Peace be upon you dear Mohammad
During the day, and during the night

Best wishes for all of you dear brothers/sisters here.

a slave of Allah

Jesus said: “Love your enemies. Pray for those who percecute you.” When they took a woman caught in adultery to Him and asked what they should do with her, He said: “Let the one who is without sin cast the first stone at her”. They all left, Jesus said to the woman: “Neither do I condemn you, go in peace and sin no more”. He also said: “The one who resorts to the sword will die by the sword”, and “when someone strikes your cheek, turn also the other to them”.

Jesus Christ is LOVE incarnated. He is the only one who ever taught with authority, because He was the LOVE and and He lived it. He did not say one thing and did another.

Muhammed, when they brought a thief to him, said: “Cut off his hands and feet.” In one day he wiped out a whole Jewish town and raped two of the young women there. I could give you many other examples of the dehumanisation in Islam, but it’s already enough. Please choose to uncover your eyes and see.

Most of your “poem” is okay, there is nothing wrong with it. Whoever wrote it was in some way inspired by the true Scripture, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

However, Mohammad was a false prophet. He is not blessed. I ask you to simply look into the Hadith to see that the man you revere was a man who fornicated, raped, killed, slept with little girls, had severel wives, tortured and lied, cursed those who didn’t believe him, performed no miracles, said women were less intelligent than men, was clueless about Christianity and was not even sure that he himself was a true prophet. He was not a man of peace but a man anyone would shudder at meeting. His concept of god was totally distorted.

You shall measure truth by LOVE. God is Love, its written in the Bible. Jesus was truly crucified for your sins and no other wages have been paid for your sins. It was not a substitute, it was really Christ. That’s how we know His Love: He died for us while we were still sinners. Also, if you are an honest student you will realise that The Scripture before the Koran were not corrupted like you have been taught. We have fragments of writings and whole Bibles from many 100 years before Muhammed even lived. the claim that Paul and others corrupted Revelation is a simply absurd.

Also, and more importantly I want to tell you “slave of allah” that the true God, not allah, calls you to be His CHILD, not His slave. He wants your LOVE, not your blind submission. Okay?
He loves you unconditionally, yes, even if you don’t pray all five times of the salat, even if you dont do the sawm etc. He loves you and layed down His Life for you.

Come into the Light.
I love you in Jesus and I am praying for you that you will come out of the darkness.

• A child of the Most High, the Great Mystery, Abba-Father…

 

[GraceDK]

I don’t think Hyacinth or any other Catholic wants blocks of gold & silver in paradise.

The Christian Paradise is completely different than the Islamic one.

That is certainly true. Especially for us women… I prefer the Christian idea of heaven by far. I don’t prefer to be in some Muslim martyr’s haram… If you know what I mean.
Islam is a religion of the flesh. Its very sensual in all ways, and also sexual. Christianity is a satiation for the Spirit. To behold God, to bask in His Love to be in total Peace.
Truth is Beauty.

 

[ralphinal]

I don’t think Hyacinth or any other Catholic wants blocks of gold & silver in paradise.

The Christian Paradise is completely different than the Islamic one.

Setting aside all the sexual and party images from Islam in heaven, what you see is an immature version of heaven versus a mature one with Christianity. One is a place of pleasure where we are happy because we have stuff. The other is a place of happiness because we are in full union with God unincumbered by human limitations.

 

[Dhugz]

I think Allah is an arabic word refering to God of Israel, meaning the Jews and Christians. Mohammad described allah in contradiction to God of Israel. Therefore, the Allah or God of Islam is not the same to God of Israel. Mohammad is a false Prophet that he decieved most moslems!! If Islam is came from Jews, why their teachings have a big big difference Jews and Christians?! Why mohammad have a lot of wives! Why mohammad persecuted the Church?! He is the Anti-Christ, he introduced Jesus as a Human Being, like JWs, Iglesia ni Cristo. Moslems recite words that mohammad is the prophet of Allah and Allah is God, Like Iglesia ni Cristo, Felix Manalo is Gods messeger. . . . .There are many commonalities in this two religions. . . . I am hoping in the end they will be vanished like the first Gnostism, arianism etc. . . . . . .

 

[Dhugz]

I am still hoping that the Holy Spirit do something to deaf, blind moslems. . . I know that most moslems want to become A Christians but due to expected punishment for them, they are afraid. . . . You know moslem brothers and sisters, what is most important to you, your SALVATION or the Punishment of God to All who do not want to be his Children! Ask yourself and examine your Quran, why Quran oblige you to persecute the Christians in able to please Allah?! Do you Think God want that?!! Examine first your Mohammad! Why mohammad recognized the Books of Jews and the Bible as a light? He is Confused?! Open your Mind Brothers and Sisters, The True GOD is God of Peace, and all his messenger is Prophet of Peace!

 

[GraceDK]

I am still hoping that the Holy Spirit do something to deaf, blind moslems. . . I know that most moslems want to become A Christians but due to expected punishment for them, they are afraid. . . . You know moslem brothers and sisters, what is most important to you, your SALVATION or the Punishment of God to All who do not want to be his Children! Ask yourself and examine your Quran, why Quran oblige you to persecute the Christians in able to please Allah?! Do you Think God want that?!! Examine first your Mohammad! Why mohammad recognized the Books of Jews and the Bible as a light? He is Confused?! Open your Mind Brothers and Sisters, The True GOD is God of Peace, and all his messenger is Prophet of Peace!

Exactly brother.

Muhammad was confused.
Even more so, he was of the line of Ishmael. He was not a Jew. All the other prophets were Jews and sent to the people of Israel. Even Jesus was sent to Israel primarily. His apostles were then sent to the gentiles.
But Muhammad wanted to slay Israel, because they of course did not recognize him as a prophet. He fits none of the criteria to be a prophet.
I am so grieved for the Muslims that they have been lied to.

I recommend: www.islam-watch.org and www.answering-islam.org

To all my Christian brothers and sisters: Let’s stop being lukewarm and really testify to what the Lord has done to us. He loves the Muslims and does not want them to live in chains and darkness. There is only a small step between indifference and hatred. let us love our fellow beings enough to tell them HOW THEY ARE LOVED and their TRUE IDENTITY in Yeshua the Messiah.

Salaam and Peace.

 

[GraceDK]

Open you ears and your heart to the voice He speaks to you from within. Understand His love of diversity…for He created diversity…he created the many populations that walk this planet. His voice is strong. ONE GOD…adore only Him… You cannot believe in ONE God if you believe that other religions who also believe in one God…have a different God. That is illogical.

I don’t mean to anger you. That is not my purpose. Think on these things and hear the truth. God will speak to you if you listen carefully. Don’t rely on the written words of false prophets or interpreters. Look into your heart. Love one another is His message.

My God is a jealous God. His love is unlimited.

Yes Hyacinth.
God created diversity. But He didn’t create a lie. The Bible says: God is not a God of confusion.
Yet you claim that you worship the same god as the muslims, allah. But beware who you worship then because the spirit of allah said that the Christians are cursed and that Jesus is not the Son of God. So choose wisely.

If I worship Zeus and I say: He is the only god that exists, then that does not mean I am not an idol worshipper. Claimed monotheism does not mean you worship the true god, only that you worship one god.

God loves the Muslims but don’t be fooled. He does not love the lie. As John writes: What has Light to do with Darkness, what does the Truth have to do with the Lie? The answer is Nothing.

Your concept of LOVE is void if its without Truth. The path to hell is filled with wrong tolerance.
There has been given us no other name by which we can be saved. Only JESUS CHRIST.
He has comissioned you to preach salvation through Him. Not through universalism and relativism.

The text council text Nostra Ætate is problematic because its desire for unity overlooked truth. I don’t think they had actually studied Islam for what it is.

 

[a_slave_of_God]

Welcome “a slave of God” to CAF,

Yes, even Christianity has one GOD called YHWH Who Has a Word called Jesus and a Spirit called Holy Spirit.

Well, you might want to add the word “Sometimes” to that, because the only Person who has such characteristics and even more than that is Jesus.

Thank you for welcoming me.

May Allah reward you a good reward.

 

[a_slave_of_God]

You need to remember that Mahomet (Muhammed) originally wanted to be known as a prophet of Judaism until he went to Jerusalem and was rejected. This was the point where he changed the prayers to be directed toward mecca instead oh Jerusalem. At this point Islam began to change from a prophetical branch of Judaism to a conglomeration of Arabian paganism and their rituals (walking around the Kabba, throwing stones at the devil, etc.)

So while Allah may have been originally the same as YHWH, Muhammed changed it to something fictional.

You need to know that you are wrong, so be careful.

The Truth destroys the lies and their generators.

Blessed be The Truth.

1. … And know that Allâh knows what is in your minds, so fear Him. And know that Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

 

[a_slave_of_God]

Welcome to the forum.

Thank you for sharing your belief with us in such beuatiful words. Your god, Allah, has some of the attributes of our God, Yahweh. I am not sure whether they are one and the same but the way you describe your Allah does sound what a God should be and it’s encouraging to hear.

The Beauty is Allah’s, once Allah is mentioned, all the beauty is there.

Yes, Indeed my brother, our God is One and the Same.

1. Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him to the Jews and Christians), “Dispute you with us about Allâh while He is our Lord and your Lord? And we are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. And we are sincere to Him in worship and obedience.”

Christian God, though possesses the attributes you mentioned, however, calls His people friends and sons.

Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command. 15I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, …
John 15:13-15

We are no longer servants but friends of God.

For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.”
Romans 8:15

We are no longer slaves but sons and daugthers of God, and we are bold enough to call him Abba, or Papa, Father.

May God bless you.

May Allah bless you, too.

 

[Booklover]

The Beauty is Allah’s, once Allah is mentioned, all the beauty is there.

Yes, Indeed my brother, our God is One and the Same.

1. Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him to the Jews and Christians), “Dispute you with us about Allâh while He is our Lord and your Lord? And we are to be rewarded for our deeds and you for your deeds. And we are sincere to Him in worship and obedience.”

May Allah bless you, too.

Where is the beauty of a god that deliberately deceives some people in order to send them to hell? Or one that calls the unbelievers the worst of creation?

Vickie

 

[empurpledsoul]

Who is this person that you so boldly quote? I don’t know him. His argument is based on interpretations made by men…not the word of God. I agree with the Pope, whose quote he is contesting.

Isn’t the Pope also a mere man? We are all given equal authority if we are true followers of Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit, in our individual direct personal relationship with God, to discern and ‘interpret’. And by that we are all accountable for what we have chosen to believe and follow. If you choose to follow the Pope, because you have received this in your own personal direct and devoted seeking of God through Christ and have a individual testimony of its truth unto your own soul by the Holy Spirit, more power to you! But no human on earth is qualifed greater than the other in Christ. This was the power he brought that would remove the world from depending and deferring on other fallible human beings for the own personal spiritual growth and practices. Too often men are led astray by their egos, their own weaknesses and lead others as sheep who do not question them, who say, they are ‘perfect authority’ putting them between themselves and God himself. No way did Jesus teach this! Not at all…

And on this same point, this is one of the fatal flaws in Islam, that its members follow ‘scholars’ like sheep, that they do not hold that they can personally come to God, since Muhammad was not given any power or authority by God to provide this way and the Muslim is cut off from the gift of the Holy Spirit. They are truly the blind leading the blind following after one who was also blind of the Truth of God.

 

[empurpledsoul]

But beware who you worship then because the spirit of allah said that the Christians are cursed and that Jesus is not the Son of God. So choose wisely.

That wasn’t the spirit of Allah. The voice of God said, upon Jesus baptism by John:

Here is My Son, in whom I am well pleased!

Why would God curse those who follow the One God sent to BE His Word in the Flesh. That is just ludicrous and makes God out to have a personality disorder. Not. It would be Muhammad and his Epilepsy at work. If choosing that is wisdom to you, you will never understand the Light of Truth.

 

[a_slave_of_God]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

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Never heard of that hadith . Do u have the link for it ?

Ibn Hajar in Fath albaree 441/13 mentioned this hadith.
Also there are many other people who narrate this speach of the prophet prayer and peace be upon him.

 

[a_slave_of_God]

Jesus said: “Love your enemies. Pray for those who percecute you.” When they took a woman caught in adultery to Him and asked what they should do with her, He said: “Let the one who is without sin cast the first stone at her”. They all left, Jesus said to the woman: “Neither do I condemn you, go in peace and sin no more”. He also said: “The one who resorts to the sword will die by the sword”, and “when someone strikes your cheek, turn also the other to them”.

Jesus Christ is LOVE incarnated. He is the only one who ever taught with authority, because He was the LOVE and and He lived it. He did not say one thing and did another.

Muhammed, when they brought a thief to him, said: “Cut off his hands and feet.” In one day he wiped out a whole Jewish town and raped two of the young women there. I could give you many other examples of the dehumanisation in Islam, but it’s already enough. Please choose to uncover your eyes and see.

Most of your “poem” is okay, there is nothing wrong with it. Whoever wrote it was in some way inspired by the true Scripture, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

However, Mohammad was a false prophet. He is not blessed. I ask you to simply look into the Hadith to see that the man you revere was a man who fornicated, raped, killed, slept with little girls, had severel wives, tortured and lied, cursed those who didn’t believe him, performed no miracles, said women were less intelligent than men, was clueless about Christianity and was not even sure that he himself was a true prophet. He was not a man of peace but a man anyone would shudder at meeting. His concept of god was totally distorted.

You shall measure truth by LOVE. God is Love, its written in the Bible. Jesus was truly crucified for your sins and no other wages have been paid for your sins. It was not a substitute, it was really Christ. That’s how we know His Love: He died for us while we were still sinners. Also, if you are an honest student you will realise that The Scripture before the Koran were not corrupted like you have been taught. We have fragments of writings and whole Bibles from many 100 years before Muhammed even lived. the claim that Paul and others corrupted Revelation is a simply absurd.

Also, and more importantly I want to tell you “slave of allah” that the true God, not allah, calls you to be His CHILD, not His slave. He wants your LOVE, not your blind submission. Okay?
He loves you unconditionally, yes, even if you don’t pray all five times of the salat, even if you dont do the sawm etc. He loves you and layed down His Life for you.

Come into the Light.
I love you in Jesus and I am praying for you that you will come out of the darkness.

• A child of the Most High, the Great Mystery, Abba-Father…

Prophet Mohammad prayer and peace be upon him and his family is not the one whom you described.

Any way, I will let Jesus speak to you through your bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household."

So, I think you need to correct your thought about Mohammad after this or spend your life living in confusion.

I will pray for you that you come out of the darkness.

• All the Praises and Thanks be Allah the Lord of the worlds.

 

[jakasaki]

=a slave of God;4989075]Prophet **Mohammad **prayer and peace be upon him and his family is not the one whom you described.

We know enough about what mohamad was done.

Any way, I will let Jesus speak to you through your bible:

"**Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. **

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household."

So, I think you need to correct your thought about Mohammad after this or spend your life living in confusion.

I will pray for you that you come out of the darkness.

• All the Praises and Thanks be Allah the Lord of the worlds.

I and many others on this forum have already explained this to our muslim members, but since you are new here, I’ll repost because you obvoiusly see the word “sword” and I know where you are going with this, just like our dear friend planten and paarsuay.

Matthew, chapter 10:34…

**Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. **

Christ has to conquer a peace by overcoming the evil that is in the way of peace. Hence, to preach the gospel of purity and peace always arouses the opposition of the evil doer.

Evil has to be put down before peace can prevail. Hence, while the great end that Christ proposes is peace, the immediate result of his coming, and of the preaching of the gospel, was opposition and bloodshed.

**But a sword. **

The only sword that Christ or his followers use in the conflict is the Sword of the Spirit, but the persecutor has in every age turned upon them the carnal sword.

The sword is sent because persecutors use it upon the church.

 

[Agabriel]

Ibn Hajar in Fath albaree 441/13 mentioned this hadith.
Also there are many other people who narrate this speach of the prophet prayer and peace be upon him.

That isn’t an accepted person according to saudi arabia. What sect of islam are you representing?

 

[cthulhubryan]

You need to know that you are wrong, so be careful.

The Truth destroys the lies and their generators.

Blessed be The Truth.

1. … And know that Allâh knows what is in your minds, so fear Him. And know that Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

Ah, but you see I am telling the Truth. The would be Jewish prophet of Mecca and the Assassin and Terrorist of Medina are almost two completely separate people.

After his rejection by the Jews, Mahomet went to Medina where he began to initiate the so called Constitution of Medina where it was really a way to broker himself power and to break the peace between the Jewish tribes (Banu 'l-Nadir, Banu Qurayza and the Banu Qaynuqa) and the two arab tribes of the Aws and the Khazraj.

It is here that his character as an evil and power hungry (and possibly epileptic) madman comes to the fore. He even goes so far as to have one of his men to murder the Poetess Asma bint Marwan (of the Aws tribe) in her bed surrounded by her children simply because she wrote a poem encouraging the tribes to reject the power mad outsider (muhammed)

It is also here that he has the convenient ‘revelation’ that it is okay to murder during the holy month after his men did so. He was getting a lot of negative feedback from men who were actually holy and so he invented a new revelation (now known as Sura 2.217) “They will ask you concerning the Sacred months, whether they may war therein. Say: Warring therein is grievous but to obstruct the way of God and to deny Him, to hinder men from the holy temple, and to expel His people thence, this is more grievous than slaughter.”