Allah should not be called Father!

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As Catholics, we speak of our familial relation to God by calling him Father. We were instructed by Jesus Christ to do this when he taught us the ‘Our Father’ prayer. Being a child of God is fundamental to the Christian faith. However, calling God (or Allah) father in front of a person of strong Islamic faith and you will be rebuked for sacrilege.

“Allah has no children, and has no need for a family. We are his slaves”, will likely be the response from your Islamic teacher.

How does this set with people of the Islamic faith? How about Christians? Does this fundamental difference change completely how one sees and understands his/her world? Does it create an impasse between religions and cultures?
 
From what I’ve seen, it does. Despite what others on this board may try to tell themselves I have known Muslims personally and their view of God actually seems more based on fear or appeasement than mutual love. You can see it in how they talk.
 
It is hard to square calling Allah as “Most Merciful and All Loving” with a God that considers and treats his creation as chattel or slaves.
 
This is exactly the reason why I for one have trouble understanding how Muslams and Christians are truely worshipping the same God.
 
jburgherr said:
As Catholics, we speak of our familial relation to God by calling him Father. We were instructed by Jesus Christ to do this when he taught us the ‘Our Father’ prayer. Being a child of God is fundamental to the Christian faith. However, calling God (or Allah) father in front of a person of strong Islamic faith and you will be rebuked for sacrilege.

“Allah has no children, and has no need for a family. We are his slaves”, will likely be the response from your Islamic teacher.

How does this set with people of the Islamic faith? How about Christians? Does this fundamental difference change completely how one sees and understands his/her world? Does it create an impasse between religions and cultures?
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Muslims are aware that Allah is a being all to himself and that our father’s and mother’s are human beings like our selves. The father of our faith - Abraham didn’t call Allah father, he knew who is father was. Jesus on the other hand didn’t have a Father, therefore Allah became like his father. There is verses in the Bible trhat says that Allah will be like the father of the orphans. In this case you can say that Allah was like a father to Muhammad(saw) who was orphaned, and Adam who didn’t have parents either.

Using the woird Father is only symbolic and should not be taeken literally.
 
Indonesian catholic says “Allah Bapa” (Bapa = Father, used specifically for God only, as for human, bapak is used instead).

I don’t know where it comes from, but it could be because Indonesia is a country where Muslim is the majority. So it affects the translation of God/Father.
 
Christians have no reason at all to call Allah ‘father’. Until we’re absolutely sure who he is and why he reverses the Christ’s law of peace and humility, we should not.
 
Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. My son in law who is a Maronite from Lebanon and fluent in Arabic told me so and I believe him. I am willing to accept that the God that Islam worships is the same God Christians and Jews worship, just a different understanding of who/what He is, if they are willing to accept that Catholics don’t worship Mary. We adore her not worship her!
 
Just a thought: If Allah is God then in a Christian’s POV, He must be the trinity. But the trinity is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit… Not just the father… So to call Him father must be incomplete…

I repeat. Just a thought…
 
ssejllenrad said:
Just a thought: If Allah is God then in a Christian’s POV, He must be the trinity. But the trinity is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit… Not just the father… So to call Him father must be incomplete…

I repeat. Just a thought…
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The trinity is expressed in this fashion, along with the simpliest explaination that I have ever heard:) …

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit…

God the Father had a thought of God The Son, and the thought was so real, as in the days when the universe was created that The Son came into being, and the Love between the Father and the Son so real that God the Holy Spirit came to be, and was sent to the Virgin…
 
Sufi said:
Muslims are aware that Allah is a being all to himself and that our father’s and mother’s are human beings like our selves. The father of our faith - Abraham didn’t call Allah father, he knew who is father was. Jesus on the other hand didn’t have a Father, therefore Allah became like his father. There is verses in the Bible trhat says that Allah will be like the father of the orphans. In this case you can say that Allah was like a father to Muhammad(saw) who was orphaned, and Adam who didn’t have parents either.

Using the woird Father is only symbolic and should not be taeken literally.
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Isaiah 63:15-16

“Look down from heaven, And see from Your habitation, holy and glorious. Where are your zeal and your strength, The yearniing of Your zeal and Your mercies toward me?
Doubtless You are our Father, Through Abraham was ignorant of us, And Israel does not acknowledge us. You, O Lord, are our Father, Our Redeemer from Everlasting is:Your name,”

NKJV

Looks like your are in a disagreement with the Prophet Isaiah.
 
Lance said:
Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. My son in law who is a Maronite from Lebanon and fluent in Arabic told me so and I believe him. I am willing to accept that the God that Islam worships is the same God Christians and Jews worship, just a different understanding of who/what He is, if they are willing to accept that Catholics don’t worship Mary. We adore her not worship her!
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Allah is kind of different from the word God. Any one can be called God or can be considered a god. It also derived from the Greeks who had many gods. This word could even be feminine as in the word - godess.

The word Allah is unique. It can not be feminine nor can anyone else be called Allah nor can partners be attributed to the word ALlah. I would say that the closet thing in translation to Allah would be God, but this does not mean it means the same.
 
Lance said:
Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. My son in law who is a Maronite from Lebanon and fluent in Arabic told me so and I believe him. I am willing to accept that the God that Islam worships is the same God Christians and Jews worship, just a different understanding of who/what He is, if they are willing to accept that Catholics don’t worship Mary. We adore her not worship her!
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It’s not that we think you worship Mary. We know you don’t. But the idols set up is enough for us to not accept it. The pictures of what is said to be the image of Jesus and Mary every where is what we are in disagreement with.

It’s just so much things we see as being incorrect in these things amongst others.
 
Lillith said:
The trinity is expressed in this fashion, along with the simpliest explaination that I have ever heard:) …

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit…

God the Father had a thought of God The Son, and the thought was so real, as in the days when the universe was created that The Son came into being, and the Love between the Father and the Son so real that God the Holy Spirit came to be, and was sent to the Virgin…
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Islam beleives that there is only God the God. Everything other being is created by God the God and are lesser than Him. Not equal or to Him or realted to Him any way. His creations is below Him. ALL His creation including Isa ibn Maryam.
 
StMarkEofE said:
Isaiah 63:15-16

“Look down from heaven, And see from Your habitation, holy and glorious. Where are your zeal and your strength, The yearniing of Your zeal and Your mercies toward me?
Doubtless You are our Father, Through Abraham was ignorant of us, And Israel does not acknowledge us. You, O Lord, are our Father, Our Redeemer from Everlasting is:Your name,”

NKJV

Looks like your are in a disagreement with the Prophet Isaiah.
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No, I’m in disagreement with the preservation and journey of the Bible of what it is today.
 
Sufi said:
Islam beleives that there is only God the God. Everything other being is created by God the God and are lesser than Him. Not equal or to Him or realted to Him any way. His creations is below Him. ALL His creation including Isa ibn Maryam.
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I guess we do worship a different God than you afterall.
 
I disagree with your last statement. We worship the same God. It just talks a lot of hard studying and understnading to witness this. Someone here said - A scholar studied or ahve studied more than doctors or lawyers. You’ll never hear a truthful religious scholar of any of the Abrahamic faiths that states that either or either worship a different God.

We do not worship Isa ibn Maryam(Jesus the son of Mary) nor Jibril(Gabrael), but we worhip God, and the God we worship is the same God you wosrhip.
 
Sufi said:
The difference is how we worship Him. You worship Him in 3. We worship Him like Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, david, Adam etc worshipped Him.
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I stand by my previous statement.
 
Sufi said:
Allah is kind of different from the word God. Any one can be called God or can be considered a god. It also derived from the Greeks who had many gods. This word could even be feminine as in the word - godess.

The word Allah is unique. It can not be feminine nor can anyone else be called Allah nor can partners be attributed to the word ALlah. I would say that the closet thing in translation to Allah would be God, but this does not mean it means the same.
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Do you speak Arabic? Because My son in law says that when they use the Arabic language in mass they refer to God as Allah. Sounds like Allah=God, but if you want to say that Allah is not the being we refer to when we say God then I will accept that and will have no choice to believe that you worship a different God than I do. Makes life a lot easier for me because I never understood how someone could think that the God I worship would want people to do the thing Islamic terrorist do
 
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