Allow gay Catholics in ssm to receive communion?

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A perfectly reasonable position đź‘Ť.

At least this view invites a prudential discussion where intelligent and sincere people may both at times legitimately disagree.
Well yes, so long as they respect the actual decisions that are made.
Unlike other views here that brook no possibility of being mistaken and demonise 100% of those who may seek a Union.
After some of the things I’ve read on CAF over the years, like that Protestants are “led by the devil” etc., not very much surprises me. (I stay because there are also tons of good posts, and because I don’t expect to find a forum that’s better than CAF.)
 
Homosexuals and Transgender individuals ARE permitted to receive holy communion IF they are CURRENTLY living a chaste life.
Are they permitted to receive if they present themselves for communion in “drag”- men in women’s clothes? No one really can know if they are “currently” involved in a sodomite relationship, so that isn’t really any particular ban at all.
 
Are they permitted to receive if they present themselves for communion in “drag”- men in women’s clothes? No one really can know if they are “currently” involved in a sodomite relationship, so that isn’t really any particular ban at all.
You have confused transvestitism with homosexuality.
Dressing in drag in public is not sinful as far as as I am aware.
Though it may be at Communion if immodest.
 
I think he is referring to a “transgendered” person who while biologically male, presents themselves as woman.
Which confusion suggests clothing doth not make the man nor Civil Unions the sex ;).
 
And which can cause grave scandal, especially to the young, in which case, Our Lord’s words about millstones come to mind.
Try another tack, I note the scandal card really gets overplayed by those without tertiary religious training on CAF.
It can of course justify condemning almost anything, including picking of ears scratching of bums and burping in Church no doubt.
 
Try another tack, I note the scandal card really gets overplayed by those without tertiary religious training on CAF.
It can of course justify condemning almost anything, including picking of ears scratching of bums and burping in Church no doubt.
As you seem not to have as yet completed your own tertiary religious studies, i’d like to wish you every success with your future endeavours. 👍
 
As you seem not to have as yet completed your own tertiary religious studies, i’d like to wish you every success with your future endeavours. 👍
I likely finished before you could shave 🤷.
 
You have confused transvestitism with homosexuality.
Dressing in drag in public is not sinful as far as as I am aware.
Though it may be at Communion if immodest.
IIRC, Cross-dressing was the basis of the heresy charge against Jeanne d’Arc that led to her martyrdom, and subsequent canonization. However, that trial was then overturned posthumously under Callixtus III, so I’m unsure if cross-dressing would be considered sin (much less a valid reason for a charge of heresy).

As for the main topic of the thread, I cannot imagine Fr. Francis saying such a thing. Either it is a translation issue, or sources are purposefully twisting his words, perhaps with ill intent for the RCC.
 
Well in principle it is a case by case matter, but a positive judgment would be very rare. Particularly if we are talking about gay couples who have a public wedding ceremony.

Or so it seems to me at least.
I agree. I would also say that a charitable understanding of every Catholic answer to the subject of this thread would be consistent with your post.
 
Some people just want the church to match their sentiment. It is evident that the fifth commandment has never been understood to mean all killing. Within the Pentateuch there are examples of righteous killing both of men and animals. Given that the same law which says “do not kill” also says that an idolator must be stoned to death, clearly the original recipients understood righteous killing and unrightious killing as two different things. It is true that in war there is ample temptation to give in to murder and other sins. That does not make all killing sin. In fact, God rejoices over the death of His enemies. Being made in His image we ought to rejoice over the death of His enemies with Him. One cannot reason from a false premise that because the church has recently rejected the original meaning of the fifth commandment, which it has not, that we can now ignore any other public sin as though it is a cultural issue of pastoral care alone. Murderers, adulterers, fornicaters, homosexuals, and any person known to be insubordinate against God is unable to receive communion pending repentance and reconciliation. All the fuzzy feelings and wishful thinking in the world won’t change the real peril of Ananias and Saphire. They lied to the Holy Spirit about their sin and God struck them dead at the feet of Peter.

The original question was about whether any actual quote from pope Francis seems to mean that persons living in public sin such as Same sex marriage could be allowed to receive communion. Here we are discussing the merits of such a position, which discussion has its value. What is the text people might be twisting or misunderstanding to this issue.

I have noticed, that Pope Francis sometimes gets reported as though the media is committed to presenting him as the liberal savior of a presumed backward church. I reject that characterization of him but I wonder if it accounts for some of the stuff I’ve heard on moral issues.
People can play semantic games all they want. Technically, “Thou shalt not kill” doesn’t have an object. Should I assume it also forbids killing deer for food, ants, dandelions, and time?

Sometimes folks like to argue for pages for seemingly no reason. The question was asked whether the Pope literally said a specific thing. Of course, that dovetailed into a breakdown of the 5th Commandment…
 
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