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Traditional Ang:
Conceivably this man would have an action, not under the First Amendment but under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Even here, an employer is required to reasonably accommodate the religious belief of an employee or prospective employee, unless doing so would impose an undue hardship. In this case, with the employee having been identified as an Allstate employee making claims that the company does not happen to agree with, I believe the termination was proper. Allstate has the right to dissociate itself from points of view that it does not share. If the employee was improperly identified as an Allstate employee, then his proper action is against the publication that so identified him, not the company.
This does not touch upon the deeper issue of whether the government should identify a religion, such as Christianity, as a protected category. What does it mean to be Christian? Is it a status – a state of being – a word that typifies one’s membership in a suspect, minority class no different than Black or Female? Let’s consider… To be Black or Female, one need only be Black or Female. Membership in either class is contingent upon nothing. It’s a state of being, which represents entirely neutral qualities (i.e., skin color and/or gender). On the other hand, Christianity is contingent upon something… behavior – a person’s actions – choices made – their “faith.” It’s the end result of choosing to define one’s identity based upon with whom, and how one elects to worship. For myself, I can see no cogent reason why a Christian should have special rights in this instance.
Hi Traditional Ang!Other Eric:
Allstate is a PUBLICLY HELD FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION Subject to the by-laws of the SEC and and all the other acts to which such entities are subject. Allstate exists to make a profit by providing services to the community for a fee, which is never waivable.
The Boy Scouts of America is a PRIVATE NON-PROFIT CHARITIABLE ORGANIZATION whose sole purpose is to benefit the boys who are its members, who pay dues and fees which are waivable depending upon the income of the boys’ and their families.
These are two completely different types of organizations covered by completely different sets of Federal Laws.
I read some of your previous posts, and I saw that you understood that much of the “Child Molestation Scandal” actually involved homosexual priests having sex with boys who were between 11-17. This supports the BSA’s decision since that’s the ages for boy scouts and explorer scouts.
The BSA, miraculously, escaped having that scandal.
I have to assume that you are a LIBERTARIAN in political philosophy. Although I find some logic to Liberanianism, I find that having a government functional AMMORALLY, although it may sound easy, doesn’t really work socially.
We need a government to have a MORAL Public Policy, and not one based on convenience or which party happens to be in power - that requies vigillence on the part of those of us who vote and pay our taxes. It requires that we stay involved in how our government works, and it requires that we insist that our values (which are the majority values) be the one the govenment represents in its Laws.
And, it may require that we actively supporft Godly candidates, oppose ungodly ones and that we be willing to take and give a few lumps.
The other choice is either to ceed the field to the Ungodly, or to insist on a Libertarian form of government which is incapable of dealing with real national and regional emergencies or od developing areas of the country to the benefit of all so that the Ungodly have no real power.
The only problem with that is, the Ungodly have ways of grabbing power when the decent aren’t looking.
So, we have to decide what laws we as a people want to be in place and what laws we want enforced.
Remember, Libertarianism only worked when Small Government was confronting Small Business and Small Labor. That’s not the case today.
God Bless, Michael
Conceivably this man would have an action, not under the First Amendment but under Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Even here, an employer is required to reasonably accommodate the religious belief of an employee or prospective employee, unless doing so would impose an undue hardship. In this case, with the employee having been identified as an Allstate employee making claims that the company does not happen to agree with, I believe the termination was proper. Allstate has the right to dissociate itself from points of view that it does not share. If the employee was improperly identified as an Allstate employee, then his proper action is against the publication that so identified him, not the company.
This does not touch upon the deeper issue of whether the government should identify a religion, such as Christianity, as a protected category. What does it mean to be Christian? Is it a status – a state of being – a word that typifies one’s membership in a suspect, minority class no different than Black or Female? Let’s consider… To be Black or Female, one need only be Black or Female. Membership in either class is contingent upon nothing. It’s a state of being, which represents entirely neutral qualities (i.e., skin color and/or gender). On the other hand, Christianity is contingent upon something… behavior – a person’s actions – choices made – their “faith.” It’s the end result of choosing to define one’s identity based upon with whom, and how one elects to worship. For myself, I can see no cogent reason why a Christian should have special rights in this instance.