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chicago
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And, actually, there is another theological institute in Chicago where some relgious orders send their candidates: Catholic Theological Union at University of Chicago.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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The Carmelites plan to start using this as they get candidates for the pre-noviate that are under 27 years of age and need 2 or more years of college.
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GloriaPatri4 said:
I live in Hudson, Wi and some of our people attend St. Agnes on occasion because of the Latin Mass and beautiful music. I would venture a guess that the number of seminarians has more to do with the home atmosphere and faith of their parents than it has to do with having or not having all male alter servers. The all male alter server crew and no EMsHC is also a result of this faith life and not a cause. If parents don’t value the vocation to the priesthood most kids are not going to join up.
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Petrus_Romanus
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Altar girls are another abuse.
The late Pope himself, said so definitively in Inestimabile Donum. However, he permitted this abuse in 1994.
We had “altar girls” in my liberal diocese, long before 1994, hence it was a moot point for us.
However, in hindsight, more than twenty years of it, I can say that wherever alrat girls flourish, the faith withers.
Boys stop serving, because once girls do it, only a “girly man” would serve.
In essence, it is a further destroyer of the already chronic shortage of vocations we have.
My own parish priest forbids altar girls, and even adult men still serve Mass as it remains an honour, not something sacrificed to the gods of feminist theology.
The late Pope himself, said so definitively in Inestimabile Donum. However, he permitted this abuse in 1994.
We had “altar girls” in my liberal diocese, long before 1994, hence it was a moot point for us.
However, in hindsight, more than twenty years of it, I can say that wherever alrat girls flourish, the faith withers.
Boys stop serving, because once girls do it, only a “girly man” would serve.
In essence, it is a further destroyer of the already chronic shortage of vocations we have.
My own parish priest forbids altar girls, and even adult men still serve Mass as it remains an honour, not something sacrificed to the gods of feminist theology.
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Petrus Romanus:
Why aren’t their parents teaching them better than that? It only destroys the aspirations to vocations of men who probably wouldn’t have been priests anyway. If a boy says he doesn’t want to do something b/c a girl does it, it’s time for his parents to have a serious talk with him.
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Petrus_Romanus
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Rather, it’s time for priests to stop pushing feminisms on young men.
Female altar serves are totally alien to Apostolic Tradition.
Female altar serves are totally alien to Apostolic Tradition.
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Petrus Romanus:
No one can force something like that on a person; if someone doesn’t like their priest, the way he runs the parish, there’s always the option to go to another one. Parents should be encouraging children of both sexes to be altar servers and to be more active in their church. The same goes for the parents–if you don’t like what’s going on, get involved!
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I don’t think it will change the number of seminarians, but to make sure it doesn’t, the priest should realy make alter serving for boys less intimidating(sp). Mabey you should ask the priest to ask the boy and all boys to serve. If he does that, he is begining to get him intersted in the seminary. A little boy will look up to someone they like and say, “I want to be like him!” And asking them will probably make them like the priest because that is what they do at a young age.
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chicago
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Personally, I think that there ought to be more formally instituted adult male acolytes and less boys are girls serving at the altar as their substitutes.
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Catholic29
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GloriaPatri4 said:
**St. Agnes is believe it or not a Novus Ordo Parish. And is the only parish in Minnesota (among very few in the country) where Vatican II and the Missal of Paul VI are actually implemented the way they were intended.
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snowgarden
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My Church has a televised weekly Mass on local cable. Everytime I watch I see the altar girls and think maybe non-Catholics might think we are inclusive. However, I always think about the two brain-damaged guys who used to carry the crucifix…now a girl always does that job. I always think how proud the guys seemed to be, and I wonder if they were forced out of their job to make room for the girls, but maybe the girls feel just as proud to participate.
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mjdonnelly
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Parents have a negative impact on the recruitment of altar boys.
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Pentecost2005
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The first and most important way to be active in the Church is to pray.
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Chris-WA
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As with most other problems in the church, this is a result of poor catechesis. We are now in a position where most parents were never properly taught the faith, which means they are unable to pass it on to their children. There used to be a sense of obligation that a father would make sure his sons served as altar boys. That sense of obligation has mostly disappeared and is no longer emphasized. I would love to see a parish priest say during a homily, “Fathers, where are your sons? Why have you not taught them to serve the church as they should?” It shouldn’t be a nice thing we do for the church if we feel generous. It should be expected. We all have a part to play. For boys, that includes serving at mass. Thank you to the girls who have had the courage to make up for the boys who are “too cool” to be an altar boy.
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