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jmjconder
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Does regular table wine render the Precious Blood illicit?
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Love_Divine
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Unless your table wine fits the requirements for altar wine, it doesn’t “render the precious blood as illicit”. It renders it invalid
For more information on the requirements of altar wine, you can read, Quaeritur: What sort of wine is valid for Mass?
wdtprs.com/blog/2011/03/quaeritur-what-sort-of-wine-is-valid-for-mass/
For more information on the requirements of altar wine, you can read, Quaeritur: What sort of wine is valid for Mass?
wdtprs.com/blog/2011/03/quaeritur-what-sort-of-wine-is-valid-for-mass/
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Newbie2
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Yeppers. Good reference.
There’s nothing really different about Altar wine and table wine before the consecration, as long as it’s grape wine. Altar wine just has a label on the bottle that says “Altar wine”.
There’s nothing really different about Altar wine and table wine before the consecration, as long as it’s grape wine. Altar wine just has a label on the bottle that says “Altar wine”.
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jmjconder
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**I read this article and found it rather unclear regarding the issue. It talks about fortified wine. Please explain more.
Is all wine that people drink socially unacceptable? I can understand vermouth, Marsala, sherry, etc however what about Rosé, Chablis and Merlot? Are there more references about valid wine for Mass?**
Is all wine that people drink socially unacceptable? I can understand vermouth, Marsala, sherry, etc however what about Rosé, Chablis and Merlot? Are there more references about valid wine for Mass?**
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Love_Divine
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Fortified wine is wine which has alcohol that was distilled from wine added to the wine to prevent it from spoiling, or turning to vinegar.
What do you mean by “socially unacceptable”? Is this a topic about whether or not it’s socially acceptable for Catholics to drink wine, or is this a topic about wine that is valid matter for consecration?
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runningdude
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Altar wine contains no flavors or preservatives other than what is naturally found within the fruit of the grapevine.
For instance, wine made from a mix of grape and apple juice would be invalid. Wine with added phosphorous as a preservative would be invalid.
Grapes naturally harbor yeast colonies, which allow them to ferment into wine. In rare cases, fresh grape juice that hasn’t had time to ferment may be substituted for the benefit of priests who suffer alcoholism, as such juice contains all the “ingredients” of wine (grape, yeast, trace amounts of alcohol).
Altar wine could be described as “organic”, but it is simply wine made the old fashioned way!
For instance, wine made from a mix of grape and apple juice would be invalid. Wine with added phosphorous as a preservative would be invalid.
Grapes naturally harbor yeast colonies, which allow them to ferment into wine. In rare cases, fresh grape juice that hasn’t had time to ferment may be substituted for the benefit of priests who suffer alcoholism, as such juice contains all the “ingredients” of wine (grape, yeast, trace amounts of alcohol).
Altar wine could be described as “organic”, but it is simply wine made the old fashioned way!
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runningdude
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The poster is asking about if ordinary wine is unacceptable for use in the Eucharist (such wine as found at a package store and then drunken at social eventsFortified wine is wine which has alcohol that was distilled from wine added to the wine to prevent it from spoiling, or turning to vinegar.
What do you mean by “socially unacceptable”? Is this a topic about whether or not it’s socially acceptable for Catholics to drink wine, or is this a topic about wine that is valid matter for consecration?
)The answer depends on whether the wine has additives or not. Most altar wine is clearly marketed as such to avoid confusion.
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jmjconder
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I want to know if wine that people drink socially is the same wine that is valid in the Mass. This has been a profound thought for me about drinking wine on occasion that may also be able to be consecrated into the Precious Blood.
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TheDoctor
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Short answer: Most probably not (due to additives or blends), some yes.
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TheDoctor
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Short answer: Most probably not (due to additives or blends), some yes. Depends on the wine.
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IrishAm
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Some, but not all, of the wine you drink is likely to be acceptable for a valid consecration. As someone mentioned, “organic” wine, with nothing extra (like preservatives) added, is acceptable. (As a side note, from a wine drinker, some parishes use much more drinkable wines than others . . . but they are no more or less “valid.” )
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Newbie2
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We’ve had altar wine outside of mass. The priest at a relative’s parish had way too much and gave a couple jugs to them. It’s not terribly tasty, but I’m not into wine that much.
Juice of the barley, I have a taste for, but that is another matter entirely.
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Cavaille-Coll
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Most dioceses have an approved list of altar wines that parishes may use. These often have dozens of choices, including some wines that are sold in supermarkets or liquor stores. Parishes are generally required to choose from among these wines, which come in all colors and degrees of dryness.
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