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Wow, that is beautiful!

I do believe you can celebrate the OF on a high altar.
 
You could celebrate the Tridentine Form on the hood of an army truck in the middle of a battle field, and you could celebrated the Ordinary Form on the highest of high alters in the grandest of grand basilicas.

The glory that is the our Lord in the Eucharist outshines the location!
 
a83192 said:
Can an OF Mass be said on altars like this one with communion rails?

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Simply, yes.

More explicitly - Any Catholic Divine Worship Service (Roman EF Mass, Roman OF mass, Dominican Mass, Ambrosian Mass, Maronite Quorbono, Malankara Qurbana, Byzantine Divine Liturgy, Coptic Divine Liturgy, Armenian Badarak, Chaldean Mass, etc.) can be celebrated on any Catholic Altar.

Several of these may require some additional implements (two icons and a hand-cross for Byzantine DL’s; a Rug for Syrian ones), but for any just cause, the liturgy of any Catholic Church in Communion with Rome may be said on any Altar of any parish of any Church in Communion with Rome.

I’ve seen the Roman Mass said at a Byzantine Altar, and a Byzantine Mass at a Roman Altar.
 
runningdude said:
You could celebrate the Tridentine Form on the hood of an army truck in the middle of a battle field, and you could celebrated the Ordinary Form on the highest of high alters in the grandest of grand basilicas.

The glory that is the our Lord in the Eucharist outshines the location!
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Couldn’t have said it better myself…
 
malphono said:
Contemporary (post-conciliar) fashion considered, it would be a rarity, but (as others have already said), yes, of course it can be done. Curiosity gets the better of me here, though, and I have to ask why anyone would think such an altar could not be used?
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Not just fashion, but cost. Such an altar would have cost a couple hundred thousands 50 years ago… today the same pieces would cost more than a million. Heck, a good monstrance can cost $40K these days… and that’s not even discussing the fact that they’re only gold plated!

I guess the point I’m making is that for the small parish on a budget (and lets remember that rural parish churches are built FAR more often than large inner-city churches or cathedrals), they have two choices: elaborate but chinsy, or quality but less expensive materials.

Personally, I’d rather see professionally executed elements in wood and brass done with high quality (akin to the midieval German altars, which are both fabulous and made almost entirely out of wood) than some cheap knock off, machine made and flimsy replicas which only approximate splendor. 🤷 Sagrada Famiglia is going to knock socks off when it’s complete though!
 
promethius said:
Not just fashion, but cost. Such an altar would have cost a couple hundred thousands 50 years ago… today the same pieces would cost more than a million. Heck, a good monstrance can cost $40K these days… and that’s not even discussing the fact that they’re only gold plated!
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Perhaps it wasn’t clear, but the reference in my earlier post was not to the specific altar in the photo, but to any ad orientem altar.
 
malphono said:
Perhaps it wasn’t clear, but the reference in my earlier post was not to the specific altar in the photo, but to any ad orientem altar.
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Malphono, I’ve seen the Roman OF Mass said ad orientam at a byzantine altar. I’ve also seen the Dominican mass done both ad orientam and vesus populem. And the Roman OF done ad orientam by a bishop (in a side chapel).

Even the EF can be said vs populem; it’s been done for centuries at several large parishes where there is either a tomb or other “feature” in front of the altar.

That being said, the ideal for the EF is ad orientam…
And the Rubrics for the OF leave it to the priest and the physical layout.

Vs populem was more widely permitted so that people could better see and hear. It’s become traditional, per canon law, so it’s probably here to stay.
 
It would need to be on one “like” it. After many years of civil war between the parish and the Archdiocese, this church has been suppressed, the building closed and the Easter altar dismantled.
 
Most certainly. Here is a video of Pope Benedict XIV offering the OF Mass on the high altar in the Sistine Chapel almost 4 years ago (youtu.be/aGzExgJRfiA). Yes this is the Ordinary Form and not the TLM.
 
Aramis said:
Malphono, I’ve seen the Roman OF Mass said ad orientam at a byzantine altar. I’ve also seen the Dominican mass done both ad orientam and vesus populem. And the Roman OF done ad orientam by a bishop (in a side chapel).

Even the EF can be said vs populem; it’s been done for centuries at several large parishes where there is either a tomb or other “feature” in front of the altar.

That being said, the ideal for the EF is ad orientam…
And the Rubrics for the OF leave it to the priest and the physical layout.

Vs populem was more widely permitted so that people could better see and hear. It’s become traditional, per canon law, so it’s probably here to stay.
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Yes, I know. And it still stands that the Novus Ordo done ad orientem is a rarity. That was my point in the first place.
 
Aramis said:
I’ve seen the Roman Mass said at a Byzantine Altar, and a Byzantine Mass at a Roman Altar.
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One of our parishes is being rented by an ethnic group for regular Sunday Latin Rite Mass (OF). They use the Tetrapod for Mass. They cannot use the altar because they can’t use it ad orientam because the tabernacle is in the middle.
 
ConstantineTG said:
One of our parishes is being rented by an ethnic group for regular Sunday Latin Rite Mass (OF). They use the Tetrapod for Mass. They cannot use the altar because they can’t use it ad orientam because the tabernacle is in the middle.
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They can, but are ignorant. The OF can be said ad orientam. Saying it on the tetrapod is actually a liturgical abuse…
 
Aramis said:
They can, but are ignorant. The OF can be said ad orientam. Saying it on the tetrapod is actually a liturgical abuse…
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Mass can be said on any table.

I know it can be said ad orientam, but thats their choice (the community and the priest). Also, its not like that parish has an iconostasis, the sanctuary actually looks pretty much like an RC parish save for the tabernacle on the center of the altar.
 
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