Again, I could care less. There are MANY different religious sects that deny that the Catholic Church is that which was created by God the Son. Do I lend their opinions credence or worry about them?Really? Not everybody thinks it’s settled.
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The debate continues to rage.
Actually the sad part is that these women and those they pull into their group would seem to be placing their eternal souls at grave risk…You know what’s so sad? These “womenpriests” use the same arguments of “it was done in the ancient practices of the Church” that so many VII cheerleaders use regarding such things as Communion in the hand and deaconesses.
The “prudence gauge” is your own and I simply reject it in favor of what the Church actually directs.Just because something allowed doesn’t make it prudent. Girls may licitly serve Mass with a priest at the Ordinary Form, but it is simply my belief that this is extremely damaging to vocations. As posted previously, Church positions that are opened to women quickly become dominated by women- I was once a lector and (mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa) an EMHC, and not only were all the EMHC “leaders” women, I was one of about three male EMHC’s- there were a good 20 or so females. Girls tend to be more religious than guys anyway, so this is not surprising. Keeping male only positions is the only way to force a balance.
We must also ask why the Church through Canon Law now allows women to serve at the altar…As well, we must also question why a centuries old custom of males only in the altar (girls were traditionally only allowed in the altar for baptism, the Churching of Women, and weddings) was so strongly enforced- why is the modern Catholic so special that they get all these changed rules?
And if you want the research to back up the claims that the Church has been feminized (instead of having a healthy balance), check out this book:Just because something allowed doesn’t make it prudent. Girls may licitly serve Mass with a priest at the Ordinary Form, but it is simply my belief that this is extremely damaging to vocations. As posted previously, Church positions that are opened to women quickly become dominated by women- I was once a lector and (mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa) an EMHC, and not only were all the EMHC “leaders” women, I was one of about three male EMHC’s- there were a good 20 or so females. Girls tend to be more religious than guys anyway, so this is not surprising. Keeping male only positions is the only way to force a balance.
Maybe not, but for every position that gets filled by a girl, that’s one less that can be filled by a boyI seriously doubt that a young boy has ever been turned away by a priest for alter service jsut because a girl ‘’ took his place’’ !!
All the more reason that the little contact that the boy has with Father in the context of the Mass is so precious. This is the same psychology that makes boys want to grow up to be just like Dad.In my parish - you never see the priest outside of Mass or hospital visits or on his way to some meeting or other. This is true of most of the priests I know in nearby parishes. You never see him at youth clubs, you never see him in places where young kids gather.
I am not forcing you to accept what I feel is prudent but rather am trying to explain that female altar servers is a legitimate topic of debate- one is not anathematized for believing the Church should only have male altar servers.The “prudence gauge” is your own and I simply reject it in favor of what the Church actually directs.
I’m pretty sure (but not certain) that females can also licitly serve the EF – it is happening, that much I do know.
I am not arguing that the Canon Law is invalid but imprudent. Just as one might argue legitimately that married/unmarried priests or a lessened/strengthened Eucharistic fast are (im)prudent. These are not dogmatic.We must also ask why the Church through Canon Law now allows women to serve at the altar…
I agree with you. This is NOT a good thing. My daughter wanted so bad to serve when she was younger because she loves Jesus and she wanted to do it for Jesus. But as she grew older she realized it would not be a good thing. She won’t even go up to do any readings or be an Extraordinary Minister of Communion. She would rather be a Catechist or something along those lines. She’s only 14 but she wants to do something.My daughter was an altar server, but no longer will any of my daughters be altar servers. I read a post on these forums where the poster explained at his parish it became a “girly” thing and the boys no longer wanted to do it. I have noticed over the last few years how less and less boys are serving and it is almost exclusivley a girl thing.
IMHO this is not good.