Alternative Medicine

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Something I am VERY suspicious of. I’d rather go to a surgon than an acupuncturist. But I keep hearing of/from people who have had great success with CAM.

I personally think that the reason it works is that people think it will. But I’d like some other opinions.

Your thoughts? Any success stories? Reply.

Also, does the Church have any teachings about it?
 
i voted for sucess, but want to declare my bias before i go into explanation-i am a chiropractic student, which most people myself included would put in the cam category.

as far as a placebo effect, that may be some of it, but then you have the opposite, people who are litterally carried in in pain, and tell you you wont be able to help then they do.

now as far as the poll is concerned i was only voicing support chiropractic, and not even all of that. there are really 2 groups out there. the mixers and straights

straights believe:
the universe heals the patient through the doctors hands

mixers:
joints are innervated play around with nerves get expected results

then you have my school which gets looked down on for not teaching us enough(although we do have to take more hours of the same classes than a certain nearby well known med school), because they only teach what they have evidence to back up. this is what makes me think chiropractic, cam, and pretty much everything else in healthcare falls in the same category. it probably has some good, it can be misused, it can be overused and misunderstood but if it is used in an honest not spiritual effort to heal it probably isnt wrong to try.
 
What is CAM?:confused:
It’s a load of bat puckey.
“Alternative medicine” = chiropractic, homeopathy, herbs, anything that isn’t [the horror!] conventional medicine, which to believers in CAM is more evil than the Republican Party.
There’s no scientific evidence for CAM, though by definition it’s hard to get its practitioners and adherents into double-blind studies.
 
Ah, but don’t neglect to consider the Placebo effect. People that believe that a treatment is working for them…well…often have it work for them if for no other reason than they’re being treated with something different than perhaps traditional medicine and surgery which has failed to work in their case.

I used to really be down on alternative medicine, still doubt much of it’s real effect to cure disease, but if it makes a person feel better than anything else can…why not, as long as it’s not harmful?
 
Well I can vouch for the effectiveness of chiropractic care. I had a pinch nerve that gave me pain 24/7, I even dreamed of being in pain. My doctor sent me to physical therapy–they could not relieve my pain or solve the problem. Went to a chiropractor for the first time in my life, within 3 weeks of being adjusted 3x per week, I began to have relief. A year later now, no pinched nerve problem.

I am not a huge believer in all CAM, but do think there is value to some of it. For example, a medical doctor receives very little training in how nutrition affects the body. They are trained to diagnose a problem, prescribe medication and refer you for surgery. Where as CAM tries to figure out what the body is lacking or why it isn’t healing itself. Studies are now finding that nutritional deficiencies have huge impact on health.
 
In some countries Alternative medicine is used. A lot of it (use of herbs and the like) has been used for centuries. The “placebo” effect can be found in “regular” medicine as well.
 
Actually, there is a fair amount of evidence and the body of evidence is growing, regarding CAM. The NIH has dedicated a section to the legitimate research of CAM, and specifically, herbals. Completed studies have determined pretty much what you would expect: some herbals work, others don’t.

Placebo effect is up to 70%, so anecdotal stories about what may or may not have worked for one or more person are not useful. Placebo controlled, double blinded studies are the gold standard, but are not required to demonstrate good effect; especially because certain treatment methods do not lend themselves to such studies, certainly not ethically.

There is good evidence that some people obtain relief with appropriately applied chiropractic. There is also solid evidence that the complication rate with chiropractic is often unacceptably high. Accupuncture has been well researched and, for certain applications, is very useful. There is no good evidence for cupping, candeling, coining, etc. Some herbals have been found to have extremely dangerous side-effects that far outweigh any possible benefit. Others have been found to be relatively safe and effective. The whole field is fraught with land mines and I would definitely say that anyone who wants to utilize CAM had better do their homework. That said, I use certain, well researched herbals (I grow my own) and have referred patients to an accupuncturist for certain treatments. Remember, though, that in the US, unlike some other nations, herbals are not regulated as pharmaceuticals but sold as supplements. The quality is, therefore, highly variable. Taking capsules from a jar labled as having a certain dosage does not, therefore, assure you that you are getting the labeled dosage. It has been demonstrated that US based herbals companies are notoriously inconsistent in their production standards. So, when my patients asked about using herbals, if the requested substance was well researched I suggested they obtain it from Germany or another country known to appropriately regulate herbal production.

As an aside, my medical training included courses regarding what many would consider CAM. Like most science-based fields; medicine does require that the evidence demonstrates good effect and little or controllable adverse effect (the whole “first do no harm” thing).

I didn’t answer the poll because it asked about CAM as a whole. Certain types of therapy classified as CAM are useful; others are downright dangerous; so I couldn’t give an answer.
 
It’s a load of bat puckey.
“Alternative medicine” = chiropractic, homeopathy, herbs, anything that isn’t [the horror!] conventional medicine, which to believers in CAM is more evil than the Republican Party.
There’s no scientific evidence for CAM, though by definition it’s hard to get its practitioners and adherents into double-blind studies.
Yeah, I agree with your outlook re. much of alternative medicine.Especially homeopathy which a total bunch of foolishness.
I do know that certain herbs have pharmaceutical uses.Some are very potent in that respect & have to be used with caution.How well herbalists make use of pharmaceutical herbs is an unknown quantity.
I know folks who swear by chiropractors for back & neck problems. Some of what they do makes sense to me, some does not. If spine manipulation saves one from back surgery, I’d say go for it.But keep away from the weird stuff.
 
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