Am I being over sensitive?

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

Not sure if this is the right board for this question, but since it’s related to Mass, I thought I’d pose it here.

My husband will celebrate 5 years of Permanent Diaconate on October 4. I called the rectory today, and asked them if he could be included in the Prayers of the faithful on his anniversary of ordination that God continue to guide him in right paths. Their answer?

Nope.

The prayers of the faithful are for “social justice” issues. Hmm…last week they mentioned the new mayor of Detroit (this parish is not in Detroit), the Presidential candidates, and for an end to police brutality.

They also never pray for an end to the holocaust of abortion, and other pro-life issues. Come to think of it, they haven’t prayed for the Holy Father or for an increase in vocations, either. I guess I should consider him in good company, being ignored along with the real issues facing Catholics today.

 

[Jimdandy]

why don’t you have a Mass said for him on his anniversary instead

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

I thought of it too late. All the Masses are taken up at all the parishes around here.

 

[Jimdandy]

ok then-go to Mass that day and offer the petition yourself and have a Mass said for him on another day:thumbsup:

 

[otjm]

Not sure if this is the right board for this question, but since it’s related to Mass, I thought I’d pose it here.

My husband will celebrate 5 years of Permanent Diaconate on October 4. I called the rectory today, and asked them if he could be included in the Prayers of the faithful on his anniversary of ordination that God continue to guide him in right paths. Their answer?

Nope.

The prayers of the faithful are for “social justice” issues. Hmm…last week they mentioned the new mayor of Detroit (this parish is not in Detroit), the Presidential candidates, and for an end to police brutality.

They also never pray for an end to the holocaust of abortion, and other pro-life issues. Come to think of it, they haven’t prayed for the Holy Father or for an increase in vocations, either. I guess I should consider him in good company, being ignored along with the real issues facing Catholics today.

To answer your by-line, no you are not being overly sensitive. The Church has had struggles for 2000 years, and it isn’t over yet. I am sorry that someone else was as misguided as the individual you spoke with. You might bet further by speaking with the parish priest (and starting it without mentioning that you were rebuffed). It honors your husband, but it is also something that the parish should be able to reflect on, in spite of the reaction of whomevery you spoke with.

 

[yinekka]

: Norms regarding the prayers of the faithful are found in the Introduction to the Lectionary, Nos. 30-31.
No. 30 states: "In the light of God’s word and in a sense in response to it, the congregation of the faithful prays in the universal prayer as a rule for the needs of the universal Church and the local community, for the salvation of the world and those oppressed by any burden, and for special categories of people.

In *The How-To Book of the Mass *Michael Dubruiel says

Usually the Prayers of the Faithful follow this order:

1. Prayers for the universal Church, the pope and the bishops.
2. Prayers for the salvation of the world and those who govern it.
3. Prayers for the afflicted
4. Prayers for the needs of the local church e.g. in my parish we pray for an end to the drought.]

I think that not withstanding the nature of the prayers of the faithful in your church if they prayed personally for your husband rather than deacons in general the parish office could be inundated with personal requests for prayer.

 

[hilde_the_dog]

No I don’t think so but I think they are overly desensitized if they don’t pray for the dead and dying.

 

[Mike_Cooksey]

The pastor has the right to prioritize what he wants but the mass has infinite value and potential therefore including your intentions would not diminish any divine attention given to other scheduled concerns.

Consider getting yourselves into a third order so you have prayer support at all times. Oblates of St. Benedict, 3rd order Carmelites, 3rd order Franciscans, etc are open for examination.

They have a trial period where you can test the waters and only good will come of it.

Regards.

 

[otjm]

1. Prayers for the needs of the local church e.g. in my parish we pray for an end to the drought.]

I think that not withstanding the nature of the prayers of the faithful in your church if they prayed personally for your husband rather than deacons in general the parish office could be inundated with personal requests for prayer.

According to the perceived general understanding of 4 above, personal requests are allowed and encouraged - they are the local church. As far as being innundated, they can be handled graciously and very shortly by minimum mention, e.g. “for Mary for a successful surgery and healing; for the repose of the soul of Tom, father of George and Sally of this parish; for guidance of the Holy Spirit for Deacon Joe on his 5th anniversary of ordination…”

It is all fairly simple, not time consuming to any significant degree, within the GIRM, and they should have mentioned the Deacon, but someone either got their panties in a twist, or had no common sense.

Then again, the problem with common sense is that it is not common…

 

[KingAlfred]

Not sure if this is the right board for this question, but since it’s related to Mass, I thought I’d pose it here.

My husband will celebrate 5 years of Permanent Diaconate on October 4. I called the rectory today, and asked them if he could be included in the Prayers of the faithful on his anniversary of ordination that God continue to guide him in right paths. Their answer?

Nope.

The prayers of the faithful are for “social justice” issues. Hmm…last week they mentioned the new mayor of Detroit (this parish is not in Detroit), the Presidential candidates, and for an end to police brutality.

They also never pray for an end to the holocaust of abortion, and other pro-life issues. Come to think of it, they haven’t prayed for the Holy Father or for an increase in vocations, either. I guess I should consider him in good company, being ignored along with the real issues facing Catholics today.

Sounds like a Liberation Theology-based parish. Is it?

 

[jblake]

Pax_Vobiscum_57:

My husband will celebrate 5 years of Permanent Diaconate on October 4. I called the rectory today, and asked them if he could be included in the Prayers of the faithful on his anniversary of ordination that God continue to guide him in right paths. Their answer?

Nope.

My opinion: They gave you the wrong answer.

This falls under the category of “Prayers for the needs of the Local Church”

Personally, I think it is pathetic that the parish doesn’t automatically include Prayer Requests of this type —no request needed.

the parish office could be inundated with personal requests for prayer.

And the problem with that is?

The individual members of the congregation are part of the Local Church. Living a Christian life in contemporary American culture is tough — very tough. The effect — both spiritual and secular – that prayer can have on people is tremendous.

xan

jonathon