Am I God?

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I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?

I realize that the knee-jerk reaction is to regard this question as nothing more than trolling, but I assure you, the question isn’t as farfetched as it might at first appear, and the answer not as self-apparent as you assume.

Am I the creator of all that I see? Am I God?
 
So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.
There is nothing to discuss.

The very idea inherent in this thread is blasphemous, and I would encourage you to stop seeking ways to avoid the obvious with prideful sophistry, and to repent.
 
Have you ever, even once, lied? Have you ever had an evil thought, no matter how benign in nature it may be? God is not a man in Himself:
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (Numbers 23:19, KJV)
Yes, Jesus is God, and He is a man, but He was God first. You, however, are not God because God does not lie (Hebrews 6:18; Titus 1:2).

You are not God because you had a beginning and God did not (Psalm 90:2).

You are not God because God would never deny Himself, yet you can (2 Timothy 2:13).

No, you did not create everything, or even everything you see:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (Genesis 1:1, KJV)
I noticed that you listed yourself as a Christian Solipsist. Solipsism is defined by Google:
the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist.
It is not compatible with Christian thought because we can know God, not just ourselves: the Holy Spirit dwells within us (1 Corinthians 3:16). Jesus understands us and He is our high priest (Hebrews 4:5). And, most profoundly, we can be friends – not distant acquaintances – with Jesus Christ (John 15:14-15). He knows us because He chose us (John 15:13).
 
I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?
I guess my first question would be: what makes you think you’ve created everything you see around you?
 
There is nothing to discuss.

The very idea inherent in this thread is blasphemous, and I would encourage you to stop seeking ways to avoid the obvious with prideful sophistry, and to repent.
It’s honestly not a question of prideful sophistry, but of intellectual curiosity. How do I know that I’m not the creator of all that I see?

How will I find the answer, if I’m not willing to entertain the question?
 
I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?

I realize that the knee-jerk reaction is to regard this question as nothing more than trolling, but I assure you, the question isn’t as farfetched as it might at first appear, and the answer not as self-apparent as you assume.

Am I the creator of all that I see? Am I God?
There is an actual answer to this according to forensic discussion. If you are asking the question philosophically, the answer is:

No. If you were God, you would not have to ask. God defines existence and creation, not the other way around. The fact that you can and do ask creation this question shows you are not.
 
Can you control the physical world around you without the use of your body?

If **not, **what made you think you created any of it?

Where were you before being born into a human body? Since the only answer is “nowhere” and God is eternal, there you go.

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I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?
No. Your brains make sense of what you see. They don’t create what you see. That is, if you have a brain that functions normally. If not, your brain does create stuff you see, but that stuff isn’t actually there. We call these things hallucinations.
I realize that the knee-jerk reaction is to regard this question as nothing more than trolling, but I assure you, the question isn’t as farfetched as it might at first appear, and the answer not as self-apparent as you assume.
Am I the creator of all that I see?
No.
Am I God?
I seriously doubt it.
 
Have you ever, even once, lied? Have you ever had an evil thought, no matter how benign in nature it may be? God is not a man in Himself:

Yes, Jesus is God, and He is a man, but He was God first. You, however, are not God because God does not lie (Hebrews 6:18; Titus 1:2).

You are not God because you had a beginning and God did not (Psalm 90:2).

You are not God because God would never deny Himself, yet you can (2 Timothy 2:13).

No, you did not create everything, or even everything you see:
The question really isn’t whether I conform to your image of God, because if I created you, then I also created your image of God.

The more interesting question is…why.
 
I guess my first question would be: what makes you think you’ve created everything you see around you?
It’s not that I think that I created everything around me, it’s simply the most logical conclusion.
 
You (and I) have created nothing. You may have fashioned things from things that have already been created by God. That’s not creating, that’s manufacturing. Only God creates something from nothing and holds it in existence by an act of his positive will.
 
I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?

I realize that the knee-jerk reaction is to regard this question as nothing more than trolling, but I assure you, the question isn’t as farfetched as it might at first appear, and the answer not as self-apparent as you assume.

Am I the creator of all that I see? Am I God?
Here’s a simple answer you should be able to understand: NO
 
What makes you believe that this is true?
I am of Jewish descent, and if you are asking about God in the sense of the God of Abraham, you as God would not need to ask.

And as a Jew, you would know my name. If you can write my real Jewish name out in your next post, then you are God. God knows all his covenant children by name.

If you cannot, you are an imposter.
 
It’s not that I think that I created everything around me, it’s simply the most logical conclusion.
No, it is literally the exact opposite of that.

In order to be creating everything around you, you would have to be enacting your will to create it, and then to maintain it, and then again to experience it.

Since you are not enacting your will to create it and maintain it at any given time, you cannot be creating it.

OP, you need to take a minute for some self reflection. This isn’t some deep, brilliant question. I was asking myself this question at the truly brilliant and intellectually-complete age of fourteen. It’s a stupid question posed by drunken college students at three in the morning, or by prideful children who consider themselves superior to other people. (A group which I was sadly a part of for far too long.)
 
  1. When God creates in the Bible, the word for creation is a special verb that only describes God creating new things from nothing. Humans only create by fashioning things out of materials that already exist.
  2. Perception is not creation. To observe the world is not to make the world. The belief that one creates the world by observing it is a kind of egoism that leads nowhere.
  3. Observation of the world implies separation between you and the world. Asking the question implies separation between you and knowledge. Separation implies a finite nature. God is infinite, his knowledge is infinite, and he does not forget his identity by knowing his creation.
 
I realize that there are very few people on this forum capable of appreciating the depth of this question, and doubtless no one capable of answering it, but still there may be those here who have something to gain or offer in regards to this question. So I thought that I would open the topic up for discussion.

Am I God, in the sense that I’m the creator of everything that I see around me?

I realize that the knee-jerk reaction is to regard this question as nothing more than trolling, but I assure you, the question isn’t as farfetched as it might at first appear, and the answer not as self-apparent as you assume.

Am I the creator of all that I see? Am I God?
Um…no.

It’s pretty obvious we are not God.

As for creating everything around us… how could this even be, if we started to exist AFTER these things? (stars, earth, anything older than us).
 
Can you control the physical world around you without the use of your body?
The mind can only do, what the mind believes it’s possible to do. If I believed that I could say to the mountain, be ye cast into the sea, then it would be so. And thus the only thing constraining me…is me.
Where were you before being born into a human body? Since the only answer is “nowhere” and God is eternal, there you go.
As far as I know, there’s no such thing as before I was born.
 
It’s not that I think that I created everything around me, it’s simply the most logical conclusion.
It is not a conclusion. After all, you have offered no argument, thus you can get no conclusion.
It’s honestly not a question of prideful sophistry, but of intellectual curiosity. How do I know that I’m not the creator of all that I see?

How will I find the answer, if I’m not willing to entertain the question?
How will you find the answer by pretending that you do not know it when, in fact, you do know it?

You think it might be that you do not know you did not create everything? Try to live as if you really didn’t know that and report the findings.
 
No. Your brains make sense of what you see. They don’t create what you see. That is, if you have a brain that functions normally. If not, your brain does create stuff you see, but that stuff isn’t actually there. We call these things hallucinations.
Have you ever wondered, if perhaps you’ve got it the wrong way around? That it’s not the physical world that creates the conscious mind, but rather the conscious mind that creates the “physical” world.

You’ve always assumed that it’s the other way around, but what if it’s not, how would you know?

You’d know by which one makes more sense.
 
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