Am I going to Hell?

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I am a Protestant and have attended a Baptist church all my life. I have never been to a confession and the only mortal sins that I’m aware I committed are masterbation and watching pornography. So do you think I’m going to Hell?
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To Zenkai,

I’m just curious. What is your age now?

Why are you thinking about leaving the Baptist religion?

In the times that you were performing these acts, if you honestly did not fully know or did not fully believe that masturbation and watching pornography were acts that were serious enough for God to send you to Hell, then you most likely have not committed any mortal sins.

Under those circumstances, if you did not have Full Knowledge and Full Consent, then God will not send you to Hell, if you should happen to suddenly die.

I am not an expert, but I think that the Baptist religion is not as strict about masturbation and pornography, as the Catholic Church is.

So it really depends on what you were taught as a Baptist young man.

Would the average Baptist minister tell you that God will send you to Hell for masturbating? Perhaps you should ask your Baptist minister that question.

My guess is that Catholic males masturbate just as much as Baptist males.

And I think that Catholic males have a harder time with masturbation than Baptist males.

Please don’t think that if you become Catholic, that your need and desire to masturbate as a young man, will simply disappear and magically vanish.

Just be aware that God loves ALL Good people, Good Baptists and Good Catholics.

God’s emphasis is on the Good, rather than on being Baptist or Catholic.

And you should just remember and believe that God loves YOU.

If you feel that you sometimes do things that God is not ‘overjoyed’ with, then simply tell God that you are truly and sincerely sorry, and God will forgive you.

I believe that God would prefer a Good Baptist person, over a mediocre, luke-warm and non-practicing Catholic person.

You don’t have to be Catholic to be Good.

God loves YOU. Try talking to Him more often. God has all the answers.

If you have any other questions, don’t hesitate to ask.
 
thistle said:
The OP is not a Catholic. An act of perfect contrition (even if you could be sure about it)** is conditional** upon the firm intent to go to Confession as soon as possible. Baptists do not have Confession to a priest.
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Perfect contrition is contrition which is motivated by love of God rather than fear of he’ll or other considerations. For a Catholic, love of God includes love of His body, the Church, and so they will avail themselves of the Sacrament of Confession where possible.

I’m sure God doesn’t require the impossible. And for a non-Catholic confession may be, through no fault of theirs, impossible.

Those righteous Jews who lives before Christ certainly were saved of their sins, including mortal sin (eg David’s murder and adultery, Moses’ murder), without them having to resolve to go to confession!
 
No one here knows who is going to heaven nor who is going to hell. You mentioned that you are seeking the Catholic Church and that is a journey where God accompanies you every step of the way. God knows that there are millions of Christians who are not Catholic and therefore do not avail themselves to Confession. Are they all going to hell? God does not deny salvation because of our ignorance but in fact He wills the salvation of all. To lose one’s salvation that person must give full assent of the will to reject God and to remain in that state.

Those who are outside of the Catholic Church are not bound by its directives since being outside is a clear indication that the main directive is already ignored. God is infinite Love and in His infinte mercy recognizes all of the situations whereby people are not a part of His Church in its fullness. ALL Christians are members of the Body of Christ through their baptism. There are many Catholics who do not see the need for the Sacrament of Reconciliation. Does that ignorance insure them eternal damnation? I highly doubt that even though I cannot determine the will of God.

In closing I would just like to state that God wills for all to be saved and live in eternity with Him. That includes Jews, Muslims, all Christians, and everyone else. How will this work? No one knows. Many pretend to know but they don’t. We know that it is through the merits of Christ’s death but that’s it. So keep up the good work and study the Catholic Church and all of its teachings. Pray unceasingly as Saint Paul exhorts and see what happens. Your question exhibits your interest in what the Church teaches and that is a HUGE step in your journey. May God bless you this Advent season and keep me in your prayers. teachccd 🙂
 
JAW642 said:
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To thistle,

Do you actually believe that only Catholic people are capable of an act of perfect contrition?

Are you saying that all non - Catholics are doomed?

Do you believe that God allows only Catholics to enter Heaven?

Are you saying that God will not accept an act of perfect contrition from a Baptist young man, and God will send him to Hell, simply because he is not Catholic, and therefore is not allowed by the Catholic Church to make an act of perfect contrition?

Why would a Baptist young man even consider becoming a Catholic, if it were actually true, that the God of the Catholic Church would ever act in such an Unloving and Unforgiving way?

Perhaps it would be good for you to reconsider your own views on Who God really Is.
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The Church teaching:
  • Baptism is necessary for salvation (but does not ensure it as you must die in a state of grace).
  • There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
So how can you be baptised and Catholic/deemed to be Catholic? There are 4 ways:
  • Sacramental Baptism as a Catholic
  • Baptism of Blood (non-Catholic dying for the Catholic Faith)
  • Baptism of Desire - Explicit (e.g. a catechumen going through RCIA)
  • Baptism of Desire - Implicit (invincible ignorance which means those who through no fault of their own do not know Christ, His Gospel, or His Church but still live a life according to the teachings of Christ in that ignorance)
You can debate who may or may not be included under invincible ignorance but outside the above 4 there is no salvation.

Not all Catholics are saved but everyone in Heaven is a Catholic.
 
Zenkai said:
No Baptists that I know bash the Catholic Church.
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Really, that is funny seeing as how I WAS a Baptist for the first 12 years of my life, and other then how drinking any amount of alcohol was a sin it was the 2nd main thing they seemed to talk about.

This here is a Baptist board very much like this one, if what you are saying is true please explain the amount of anti-catholic postings on it to me? just a few highlights, The Catholic Church is a cult, The old Whore of Babylon one and a woman who wants to convert her husband from the Catholic Church, and that was with a 10 second search. I am sure with some digging I could have MANY more.

baptistboard.com/

My good sir, IF none of the Baptists you know bash Catholics, I have to question if they are really Baptists. It would be like if somebody at the NRA told me that they did not know anybody there who owned a firearm.

Pax :signofcross:
 
Speedypizza said:
Originally Posted by Zenkai
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Dear Friend,
It is important to read and understand a post that you are responding to.
Note that Zenkai said no Baptists he knows bash the Catholic Church. Since it is unlikely that Zenkai knows anyone on the linked site, his statement remains true.

There is no doubt that members of some protestant groups, including baptists, DO indeed bash the Catholic Church, but it is also true that, because Baptist Churches are basically independent communities, there may be some who do bash and some who don’t.
Also consider that, a person may speak in one way to a person they know is Catholic and another way among their own church members. Human nature…

I do not say this as an attack on you or your experience, merely as an observation that you and Zenkai can both have differing experiences.

Peace
James
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Speedypizza said:
Really, that is funny seeing as how I WAS a Baptist for the first 12 years of my life, and other then how drinking any amount of alcohol was a sin it was the 2nd main thing they seemed to talk about.

This here is a Baptist board very much like this one, if what you are saying is true please explain the amount of anti-catholic postings on it to me? just a few highlights, The Catholic Church is a cult, The old Whore of Babylon one and a woman who wants to convert her husband from the Catholic Church, and that was with a 10 second search. I am sure with some digging I could have MANY more.

baptistboard.com/

My good sir, IF none of the Baptists you know bash Catholics, I have to question if they are really Baptists. It would be like if somebody at the NRA told me that they did not know anybody there who owned a firearm.

Pax :signofcross:
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You must have been a Baptist who either
  • was baptist in name alone in other words, did not have a relationship with Christ
  • did not believe in your faith
  • scorned the church while you were in it
I don’t see how someone who grew up in a faith where they had a relationship with Christ can spew such hateful language. I would think you would be compassionate, since you’ve been there and anxious to share the Catholic faith with them.
 
Zenkai said:
I am a Protestant and have attended a Baptist church all my life. I have never been to a confession and the only mortal sins that I’m aware I committed are masterbation and watching pornography. So do you think I’m going to Hell?
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Until you are able to avail yourself of confession, make an act of perfect contrition and let the Lord know how sorry you are. Pray for strength to stay away from sin.

And like was said before, speak to your priest
 
thistle said:
That is correct. Such a catechumen would be deemed to be Catholic under Baptism of Desire - Explicit and would be saved if dying before officially joining the Church.
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What if you were already baptized in the baptist church. This still applies to candidates right?
 
Hello Dear Friend,

Only God can make that Judgement. We don’t know who is going to Heaven or Hell. If you lead a Godly life, there may be an assumption. I belong to a public forum where you can answer and question from many categories. There is a category for Christianity and there is a lot of bashing about the Catholic Church and mostly about God. But, I don’t think anything harsh about those people. I don’t bash back. I go in and say, God still loves you for you are His child (We are supposed to love everyone.) After that, I get bashed to no end, but, I know God loves me and them.

If you join the Catholic Church, AMEN, AMEN, ALLELUIA, PRAISE BE TO GOD, AND WELCOME. \0/ :dancing::heaven:

Love ya’ll,

Sheila
 
obviously not if you have the sincere act of contrition. we cant judge…
 
Zenkai said:
I am a Protestant and have attended a Baptist church all my life. I have never been to a confession and the only mortal sins that I’m aware I committed are masterbation and watching pornography. So do you think I’m going to Hell?
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I think you should commend youself into our dear Lord’s hands and do the best you
can to follow his will. Here is a good website to work on those particular sins you
are having problems in conquering. I know you will find it interesting and helpful.
I will keep you in my prayers.

davidmacd.com/catholic/masturbation.htm
 
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