Am I in a rebound relationship?

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I don’t think people lose relationship opportunities by opting out when the opportunity doesn’t meet the sniff test.
As a big fan of the sniff test (and I pay attention to details more subtle than whatever we’re talking about here), I disagree. People expect too many things to coincide not only in the two people but also in the circumstances of their meeting, as well as the condition each of them is in, plus the here and now as opposed to let’s wait and see if this is any good. Intuition should suggest ideas that the more logical mind will think about and arrive at some kind of conclusion after verifying the initial impressions. Where initial impressions are the ones that decide, it all comes down to knee jerk reactions (which I suppose are responsible for quite a number of evitable break-ups or non-relationships).
And yes, I am offended that he’s making excuses for himself. I have six brothers, lots of male friends, and I know how men think. Treating a woman in a way that hurts her feelings and blaming it on your last relationship is not a good sign. Take responsibility for how you act! Either say, “I didn’t mean to hurt you, but I’ll take that into account next time” or else say, “I didn’t mean to hurt you, but that is how I treat my dates at parties…can we come to some kind of compromise or understanding?” or else “I didn’t mean to hurt you, but I don’t see anything wrong with the way I acted. I’m willing to talk so I can understand what you’re saying better, but right now I don’t see anything I need to change.”
Honestly, that sounds like something one would learn in an attitude training. If you have a communication background, you act like that (because it does have “trained people skills” written all over it). If you haven’t got that type of training, you act like that guy did. Especially if he’s really thrown off balance by the events culminating in his recent break-up, I don’t really see it as such a horrible thing to put the blame down there. If I unduly scoffed at someone due to a massive headache or agitation caused by a particularly nasty client, I’d be inclined to cite that as a reason in order that the person I mistreated could know it’s nothing personal between us two but an independent factor.
Do you see the difference? How the last girlfriend acted in not THIS girlfriend’s problem!!
Women get much more understanding in the same situation, while men are faced only with expectations to get their act together unconditionally (while at the same being near infinitely understanding if the woman can’t). People who’ve been hurt recently will snap, they will inadvertently take it out on others, then put their act together, apologise and eventually return to normal.
No, her only problem is knowing the BOYFRIEND’S expectations and boundaries and whether or not she can live with them. Leave this “oh, I’m still wounded” stuff out of it.
So far “still wounded” seems to be responsible for his failure to be fully warm and outgoing emotionally, as far as I can see. And that’s a normal thing in someone freshly out of a bad relationship. Or out of a relationship, in general.
Either you’re fit enough to be on the field, or you need to excuse yourself and stay on the sidelines longer.
I think it’s a bit more complicated than that.
There’s no shame in being on the sidelines, but it is not cool to ask for favors of the kind he’s asking.
Well, knowing what favours he actually asks for would be a good starting ground.
 
Besides what I already said in addition to the red flags EasterJoy pointed out, which I agree with 100%, a couple more thoughts:
… He wants me to be with him, just that I need to be patient. … He said sorry, is just that he hasn’t healed, and I need to be patient.
…He ask me for my patience and understanding because he is going through anger from his past relationship. …
Since patient and understanding is my basic personality, it would be a red flag to me if someone I just met kept telling me that. Or even said it once.

Are you not basically a patient and understanding person, Miriam? Because it seems to me you are. So why is he having to say this? Has anyone ever needed to say this to you before?? I suspect not. Its a red flag, I think.
Deep down I don’t trust when he tells me he loves me and is causing me lot of anxiety. I then start to doubt and feel insecure of myself.
Trust your instincts! It is way too soon to be making the pledges of forever love to you, and if it does not give you a sense of peaceful sureness, but instead, anxiety, listen to that. This is one of the ways God speaks to us.

A user/manipulator/abuser type does make others confused and insecure about themselves. My ex was one and this is the effect it had on me. At the end my eyes were opened, and I saw how I had changed because of him and not only that, I began to see that he had this effect on others. He swoops in and charms people, and tells them what to think. They go along, because he says it all so nice in a flattering, friendly way. But they look confused, they doubt themselves.

Once toward the end his siblings were in town from out of state. They had decided with the short time it was best to spend the day at an in-the-city sibling’s house. But my ex wanted to show off our country home. So he drove in with our son, burst in the door friendly and happy and welcoming, and after all the hearty greetings said, “C’mon! Aren’t you guys coming?” They were all confused. “You said you were coming to our house!” They were stumped. But they came, confused and all. It was one of the brother’s wives who relayed this to me later. And their confusion reminded me how I always felt when I was married. I came to doubt myself and my memory and my impressions all the time. Ex was always saying, “But you said ____!” I didn’t remember saying that. Why would I say that? But ex was so confident! So I doubted myself.

Its very confusing, at best, to be married to an abuser and manipulator. For some seemingly charming men (or, less often, woman) the abuse can reach a psychopathic level and then you need to fear for your life. A book, a very autobiographical fiction, Breakable Vow, is a real page turner about just such a man and the woman who narrowly escaped with her life, by the grace of God.

Some of you nice, normal guys here don’t know how trapped a woman can get with an abuser-type man. You don’t recognize the type because you and those in your circle are nothing like this. But a woman does have an intuition for things, and she needs to listen to it, and let anyone override it with admonitions to be patient and understanding…
 
As a big fan of the sniff test (and I pay attention to details more subtle than whatever we’re talking about here), I disagree. People expect too many things to coincide not only in the two people but also in the circumstances of their meeting, as well as the condition each of them is in, plus the here and now as opposed to let’s wait and see if this is any good. Intuition should suggest ideas that the more logical mind will think about and arrive at some kind of conclusion after verifying the initial impressions. Where initial impressions are the ones that decide, it all comes down to knee jerk reactions (which I suppose are responsible for quite a number of evitable break-ups or non-relationships).

Honestly, that sounds like something one would learn in an attitude training. If you have a communication background, you act like that (because it does have “trained people skills” written all over it). If you haven’t got that type of training, you act like that guy did. Especially if he’s really thrown off balance by the events culminating in his recent break-up, I don’t really see it as such a horrible thing to put the blame down there. If I unduly scoffed at someone due to a massive headache or agitation caused by a particularly nasty client, I’d be inclined to cite that as a reason in order that the person I mistreated could know it’s nothing personal between us two but an independent factor.

Women get much more understanding in the same situation, while men are faced only with expectations to get their act together unconditionally (while at the same being near infinitely understanding if the woman can’t). People who’ve been hurt recently will snap, they will inadvertently take it out on others, then put their act together, apologise and eventually return to normal.

So far “still wounded” seems to be responsible for his failure to be fully warm and outgoing emotionally, as far as I can see. And that’s a normal thing in someone freshly out of a bad relationship. Or out of a relationship, in general.

I think it’s a bit more complicated than that.

Well, knowing what favours he actually asks for would be a good starting ground.
"*I think it’s a bit more complicated than that.

Well, knowing what favours he actually asks for would be a good starting ground*"

Read her first post again. Do you not see the favors he’s asking of her? This relationship keeps making her feel terrible, time after time, and what does he say? “It is not my fault, be patient with me.” How about “I think that I need to take some time off from dating, because my healing is hurting you”? Wouldn’t that be better, instead of hurting her or bewildering her by his self-contradictory behavior, and then blaming his ex-girlfriend and proposing that this new girlfriend put up with more of the same so he can “heal” from his “wounds”? Shouldn’t it bother him that he’s causing wounds to someone else so that he can heal? If not, WHY NOT? That is what I call a Red Flag…as in Red Card, you’re out of the game.

I don’t really see it as such a horrible thing to put the blame down there

I know a lot of happily married people, and I know a lot of divorced people. Stay away from people who put the responsibility for what they do to you on anything other than a) their own informed choices or b) a failure to fully understand each other’s needs and expectations…that is, still their choice, but an unfortunately uninformed choice that they would not repeat.

I don’t care about the exact language he uses. This isn’t about whether he knows some psycho-jargon. I care about whether he is a guy who passes the buck or looks for excuses or otherwise doesn’t want to take responsibility for his own choices. That doesn’t take an emotionally-educated guy. That takes a guy who does not let his own emotional pain let him stop caring about anyone else’s.

We have a joke at our house:* In any crisis the first most important order of business is to assign blame*. It is our joke because of course that is the first thing that most of us are tempted to do, and the last thing that actually needs to be done. First you get people out of the building, then you put out the fire and save as much of the stuff as you can, and when it is all mopped up and cooling down, then and only then you send in the fire investigators l to see if there is something to be learned from why it happened. Figuring out how to make trouble someone else’s fault is the mark of the Fall. It is totally normal, but it is not OK. If this guy is hurting other people, he needs to figure out how to stop doing that, not ask for patience while he keeps doing it awhile longer. Once he stops, then he can run a “why” investigation.

Blaming everyone but yourself is also the mark of a manipulator. It is the tool by which people take advantage of others and evade responsibility. Again, huge red flag. If the fellow is not flagging his own behavior, it ought to cause concern to those who really do care about the woman he is dating.
 
Read her first post again. Do you not see the favors he’s asking of her? This relationship keeps making her feel terrible, time after time, and what does he say? “It is not my fault, be patient with me.” How about “I think that I need to take some time off from dating, because my healing is hurting you”? Wouldn’t that be better, instead of hurting her or bewildering her by his self-contradictory behavior, and then blaming his ex-girlfriend and proposing that this new girlfriend put up with more of the same so he can “heal” from his “wounds”? Shouldn’t it bother him that he’s causing wounds to someone else so that he can heal? If not, WHY NOT? That is what I call a Red Flag…as in Red Card, you’re out of the game.
With all genuine respect, I think you may be filling some gaps there. Sure, the guy isn’t a wonder of emotional stability but the data in the opening post is so sparse that you can’t really build a convincing reconstruction of his behaviour. I see three quotations about patience:
He wants me to be with him, just that I need to be patient.
When I got home I called and told him my observations. He said sorry, is just that he hasn’t healed, and I need to be patient.
He ask me for my patience and understanding because he is going through anger from his past relationship.
And two about anxiety:
I need advice on a new relationship and its causing me alot of anxiety.
Deep down I don’t trust when he tells me he loves me and is causing me lot of anxiety.
I don’t really see anything terrible or bewildering there. It may be that the OP understated a couple of things but it may very well be not. I don’t think we should assume the worst and add more to the description than really is there. The only direct description of his behaviour was that he acted a little cold, and like I said, acting a little cold is not the same as being downright cold to somebody. As for asking for patience till you come round, that’s normal for somebody who has just been through an emotionally taxing experience. Anybody who’s been through some of the bad relationship drama has at least some reasons to ask for patience with some of his or her either excessive reactions (paranoia, fear of abandonment or rejection or hidden contempt) or less than ideal emotional availability (which is normal in somebody whose resources are being taxed).
I know a lot of happily married people, and I know a lot of divorced people. Stay away from people who put the responsibility for what they do to you on anything other than a) their own informed choices or b) a failure to fully understand each other’s needs and expectations…that is, still their choice, but an unfortunately uninformed choice that they would not repeat.
If a business partner cheats you out of some profits, it’s probably “your fault” in some sense due to not spotting certain trouble signs but it’s really his fault for acting fraudulently. It’s the same if someone decides to take you for a ride in a relationship. And like I said, in so far as emotionally taxing events are contributing, there’s nothing wrong in assigning that influence to them rather than pretending it’s your choice to act a certain way people perceive you as acting. People who have just lost someone or a job, undergone bullet shock, divorce, nasty break-up, aren’t really talkative, warm and outgoing, they aren’t in a top shape to emit those safety and comfort vibes for others. That guy we’re talking about gets somewhat cold (IMHO likely related to not having the ability to be cheerful ATM) or has some problems with anger management (dangerous and needing professional attention if it persists but definitely a typical raction), somebody else would go off the radar and spend days in his personal cave, yet another person would sink it in alcohol or whatever, and yet another would have melancholic moods. None of which are attractive to potential partners but all of which are typical human reactions and some of which are going to be encountered sooner or later. If someone displayed none of those at any point, now that would be worrying.
I don’t care about the exact language he uses. This isn’t about whether he knows some psycho-jargon. I care about whether he is a guy who passes the buck or looks for excuses or otherwise doesn’t want to take responsibility for his own choices. That doesn’t take an emotionally-educated guy. That takes a guy who does not let his own emotional pain let him stop caring about anyone else’s.
Again, my point is that few people, male or female, are “emotionally educated”. As for responsibility, and we’re talking about responsibility for moods and attitudes here rather than actual, concrete actions, those factors which limit your choice, limit your responsibility. To pretend it’s all your choice is a noble fiction but still fiction.
 
We have a joke at our house:* In any crisis the first most important order of business is to assign blame*. It is our joke because of course that is the first thing that most of us are tempted to do, and the last thing that actually needs to be done. First you get people out of the building, then you put out the fire and save as much of the stuff as you can, and when it is all mopped up and cooling down, then and only then you send in the fire investigators l to see if there is something to be learned from why it happened. Figuring out how to make trouble someone else’s fault is the mark of the Fall. It is totally normal, but it is not OK. If this guy is hurting other people, he needs to figure out how to stop doing that, not ask for patience while he keeps doing it awhile longer. Once he stops, then he can run a “why” investigation.
He’s not asking for patience indefinitely, he’s asking for patience for the limited period of time he needs to finish his recovery. That’s not miles away from fixing it. There are illnesses that pass with time as opposed to needing you to show up for medical procedures or take some pills. Same here.
Blaming everyone but yourself is also the mark of a manipulator. It is the tool by which people take advantage of others and evade responsibility. Again, huge red flag. If the fellow is not flagging his own behavior, it ought to cause concern to those who really do care about the woman he is dating.
Just because it is a favourite tool of manipulators (and it is) doesn’t mean everybody who happens to act like than on an occasion is a manipulator. Or else the world would be full of manipulators. His emotional stability is a red flag, mostly a temporary one, but the other things which are being ascribed to him through this thread are not, they are unfavourable conjecture that doesn’t really have proper backing and seems to me to involve some stereotyping and other irrational thinking. Nobody is perfect, neither morally nor emotionally, before we decide that we only want a perfectly “ready” person, we should first make sure that we are such perfect people ourselves and few of us really are. A strong cliché throughout these forums is that men should be uncomplaining and perfectly collected, while they should also be understanding and supportive when women are being the exact opposite of it (which is appropriate to a certain extent but only to a certain extent, not to the extent that a man can’t ever be vulnerable or fallible–and if he were, then at any rate he would not be prepared to be that sensitive and understanding empathic supporter because granite rocks aren’t really plush cushions). But it’s not really a gender war thing as much as perhaps that everybody would like to marry someone who 1) will be understanding and supportive of our own issues, but at the same time 2) will not have any herself or himself. Fortunately, people tend to abandon such expectations sooner or later, or else the human race would go extinct.

I know I look silly arguing with someone who has much more experience but I have strong feelings about this subject. It worries me because the typical position is “avoid any signs of emotional damage in your potential partners” while in reality none of those of us who’d be avoiding it can claim we don’t ever display any signs ourselves. Which is really similar to average earners all wanting to marry a millionaire, which is a non-feasible scenario (because we’d run out of the affluent folks in a short order and the rest of us ham-and-eggers would die single). The gender bias is also important but only secondary.
 
Now, I seem to have used quite a dose of colourful language seemingly to the opposite of the OP’s concerns, so I guess I should offer some explanation to avoid confusion. Miriam, I’m not in any way saying that your concerns are invalid. I’ve been there, done that, got the scars, I’ve spent my share of time with emotionally unavailable specimens, those freshly out of relationships and so on, so the same as in your situation. It’s really hard to deal with them, it can make you develop issues yourself that you’ll need to put time and effort in getting out of, it can make you scarred in addition to them. These are all legitimate concerns.

On the other hand, I’d like to turn your attention to the fact that people who have suffered a lot recently do tend to be less warm and outgoing, they have less energy for being positive and cheerful with other people. (At least those who aren’t putting on faces.) Pretty much everybody, especially in the crowd of 30 years old single people, has his own scars and issues, some of which will heal over time and some possibly even never will. When we are hurt ourselves–and you’re hurt right now–we tend to exaggerate the way others are hurting us. It can become a vicious cycle. This is why I suggest taking a sober look at how exactly cold he is, is it just a lack of warmth and enthusiasm or is he speaking to you in mean words, disrespecting you or something along those lines. The anxiety and insecurity you mention can be connected to some issues, some problems from your own past (e.g. your own previous bad relationships), not that guy’s, and those would need to be addressed separately. Each of you may be appearing cold to the other when you are focusing on your own hurts and ignoring the pains of the other. It’s very difficult to make a secure relationship between two people who are each dealing with insecurities… unless they use that experience to help understand each other.
 
With all of the statements about “instincts”, remember that instincts are fallen and flawed and rarely accurate in the least, or else everyone could make a living off of them by, say, playing the stock market and always winning, or any of a thousand other “instinctual” things. It is probably better advice to say do exactly the opposite of what you think “instinct” says, than the opposite. Of course, it is best to balance emotional self-awareness (what most people mean when they say “instinct”) with rational, disinterested, as-objectively-as-you-like analysis of a situation, in about 20%/80% measure, respectively. Chevalier seems to be the only one who is interested in the latter 80%, even a bit of rational analysis, at all, in the replies to this thread. I may not agree with his rational analysis in all parts, but it is analysis and it is rational, as opposed to other knee-jerk reactions based on taboos or past emotional traumata, “trust your instincts” (it’s not very helpful to the OP, I don’t think: it would only be so, if she had already decided what to do, knew it was wrong, and came on the internet to seek justification for her choice: otherwise, trusting instincts has got her this far; rational analysis must needs be had, in order to go further).

Also, “instinct” (as a concept opposed to the natural law) is a construct of the evolutionists and Behaviorists.
 
I would say that if you don’t trust what he’s saying and if he’s causing you a lot of anxiety, then you should seriously consider breaking this off. Personally, any time I’ve ignored my instincts about someone, I’ve regretted it big time. There is probably something real that you can’t put your finger on that’s making it hard to trust him.

I also just wanted to say that if he causes you anxiety, even inadvertently, he will probably keep doing so if you stay together. You may well just not be suited to each other. But if I were you, I would at least break it off now and- if I were interested- ask him to contact me when he had healed enough to be in a relationship. (However, I think you may well be better of breaking it of completely. But only you can really discern one way or the other.)

God bless.

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He’s not asking for patience indefinitely, he’s asking for patience for the limited period of time he needs to finish his recovery. That’s not miles away from fixing it…
You don’t know a) that his self-diagnosis is correct, b) that he’ll act a lot different when he’s “healed”, and especially c) that he’s not “miles away from fixing” whatever “it” is.

Someone who hurts your feelings and blames someone or something else is very often someone who simply has a habit of doing that. It is a bad habit, and it doesn’t tend to go away in adulthood. Remember that his “temporary” emotional instability is the only data she has. This is not somebody she used to know in high school or college, someone about whom she could say, “This just is not like him.” No, she has ZERO information on whether his “healthy” state is all that healthy. I put just about zero stock in the self-advertisements we give ourselves over the internet, too. This guy is essentially a stranger to her!

More to the point, he rushed her to an intimate standing–“you are the love of my life” and all that, after two weeks! There is no reason that he, too, should not be told that it is time to take a step back and exercise some patience himself. She doesn’t have to tell him to get lost entirely, but she ought to tell him they need to put their relationship on a far less exclusive footing. He is causing her a lot of anxiety and there isn’t a single reason in the world that their relationship ought to revolve around “patience” for his emotions and not for hers.
 
With all of the statements about “instincts”, remember that instincts are fallen and flawed and rarely accurate in the least, or else everyone could make a living off of them by, say, playing the stock market and always winning, or any of a thousand other “instinctual” things.
Instincts do not make you an expert on the stock market. The OP is an expert on how she feels, however. That is not “a thousand things”. That is her direct experience of her own inner life. Do not teach her to doubt that she knows her own feelings!

She shouldn’t give up that position to somebody else, or make his feelings paramount while hers are ignored. She should be concerned, in fact, that taking care of her feelings does not seem to be a high priority for him. He’s taking care of himself. He’s not taking steps to take care of her. That is not a good way to treat the “love of your life” whom you just have to make yours two weeks after you meet her.

This is what psychologist Martha Stout teaches:

In a contest between your instincts and what is implied by the role a person has taken on—educator, doctor, leader, animal lover, humanist, parent—go with your instincts.

Suspect flattery. Compliments are lovely, especially when they are sincere. In contrast, flattery is extreme and appeals to our ego in unrealistic ways. It is the material of counterfeit charm, and nearly always involves an intent to manipulate.

Question your tendency to pity too easily. Pity is a socially valuable response, and t should be reserved for innocent people who are in genuine pain or who have fallen on misfortune. If, instead, you find yourself pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to 100 percent that you are dealing with a sociopath.

Now, I find it unlikey that she is dealing with a sociopath. Possible–and do not think the religious talk changes that!–but not likely. I do think she may be dealing with someone who is using his own pain as an excuse to get what he wants right now and without concerning himself about what kind of hoops he’s putting other people through to get it. He’s at a self-centered phase of the healing process, at the very least. That stage can become part of our life strategy, if others in our life allow it. Rather, the pity of good people for us when we are in emotional pain should include an insistence that we do our part to avoid hurting others or making ourselves an undue burden on those who care about us.

He isn’t doing that right now. She needs to draw the boundaries for their relationship right now, which includes him taking steps to not put her in a situation where he can foresee he’s going to hurt her, no matter how he happens to be feeling, and if he doesn’t immediately want to do that in any way he can, she needs to let him go. He can heal within those boundaries, and will probably heal much faster if he does. If he doesn’t think those boundaries ought to apply to him, then I predict that “for better or worse” with him could get very much worse than it already is.
 
You don’t know a) that his self-diagnosis is correct, b) that he’ll act a lot different when he’s “healed”, and especially c) that he’s not “miles away from fixing” whatever “it” is.
You don’t know that he is acting terribly, either. All you know is that 1) the OP is feeling hurt, 2) the guy apologises and asks for patience. You seem to be interpreting doubts for the worst. It’s fine to be cautious and wait with commitment, but it’s not okay to jump to conclusions.
Someone who hurts your feelings and blames someone or something else is very often someone who simply has a habit of doing that. It is a bad habit, and it doesn’t tend to go away in adulthood.
There are two parts to hurt feelings: someone’s action and your reaction. All we know is that he apologised and asked for patience. From the fact that he made the blunder of calling her the “love of his life” 2 weeks after meeting her (still we don’t know how much and how seriously they conversed with each other before to merit that type of realisation) it doesn’t yet follow that he must have hurt her deeply. Sure, not everything is said in the OP. We read some about acting a little cold and maybe a little about anger. Anger being more worrisome than cold here. But there is nothing concrete about him doing some horrible, horrible thing and unfairly dodging the blame for it. If he failed to be warm and outgoing due to his melancholical mood or withdrawal, which is a frequent type of “acting cold” (I must have merited that accusation a dozen times by now myself) due to still processing the shock and hurt of the last relationship, then that’s perfectly normal.

It also sounds like he’s asking for time before he jump onto high waters with the relationship and would prefer to take it slowly, i.e. he wants to commit (like he said) but he isn’t yet ready to be the enthusiastic cheery new significant other that everybody wants in a dating scenario. For which, again, he’s hard to blame. I honestly don’t blame women for that when I meet someone who’s fresh out of a break-up.
Remember that his “temporary” emotional instability is the only data she has.
Yes, and that’s precisely the reason why we don’t have enough data to judge that he has a permanent character flaw. Which is why I’m saying that while she might want to be on the safe side and skip the guy just in case, she might also–given as she refers to him as such a great guy–give him some time to see how he turns out and then leave him if he fails to return to his supposed normal condition, or stay with him if the temporary emotional disturbances go away.
This is not somebody she used to know in high school or college, someone about whom she could say, “This just is not like him.” No, she has ZERO information on whether his “healthy” state is all that healthy.
To be honest, we don’t even know what state that is. Both the early declaration of such strong love and the cold act are red flags but each of them can have rational explanations.

Like I said, the merit of the declarations has everything to do with how much and how seriously they talked throughout that short time-frame. Two weeks of six hours a day is the same amount of time as six weeks of two hours a day (84 hours), while there are some benefits of condensing and concentrating the process. She speaks highly of him and his desireability, and the feeling of appreciation is mutual, and seems to have objective foundation in character traits, patterns of life, attitude about the faith and so on, so it’s different from getting infatuated with a pretty checkout person somewhere on the road of your life. If I met the ideal girl, I’d know in well under 84 hours and if I she were merely spectacular, then I’d still have had enough time. I’d be a bit less inclined to use such grand words perhaps but there are people who are less restrained.

As for “a little cold”, I’d hate to repeat myself, but it’s different from being decidedly cold, like talking mean to somebody. To me, “a little cold” suggests a lack of warmth and maybe a little curt replies, nothing more than that. Or reserve and absent-mindedness. But ultimately coming down to a lack of warmth rather than being actively cold (talking mean, being a jerk etc.). And that is something normal in people whose emotional and other resources are being consumed in processing the recent break-up.

You can obviously say he could wait out the turbulent times alone on his own, but I don’t think any of them chose the time and just because the timing isn’t impeccable doesn’t mean they should mutually give up the chance of being with each other. When the timing is wrong, you shouldn’t cross out the entire potential opportunity, you should proceed with certain adjustments or stay tuned to see how the situation turns out. This may be a “cultural difference” between the sexes because in my experience for women an inconvenient timing tends to mean entirely crossing out the perspective of a relationship, while as a man I’d be more focused on not wanting to give up a beneficial opportunity. We need to react to opportunities, can’t keep hoping that one day a wrapped up bride or groom will show up in factory condition and all the stars will align! 😉
 
More to the point, he rushed her to an intimate standing–“you are the love of my life” and all that, after two weeks!
Again, I’d be shocked and surprised and feel uncomfortable if that type of thing followed the exchange of just a couple of general messages about work or hobbies, without deep probing, and in fact I’d be creeped off and I’d cut it right there (and I’ve done that). But if it came after two weeks of deep, heavy, intense and bonding conversations day by day for several long hours, then I’d understand that somewhat, even if I didn’t feel the same (just because the feelings aren’t symmetrical doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong on either side).

Also, we don’t really know how the relationship developed. We know the words he blurted out seemingly like a silly boy but we don’t know how it went before and after. His asking for patience while not being warm and outgoing does seem to suggest trying to reserve the opportunity but take it at a slow pace once there is the certainty that it won’t be pulled like a rug from under his feet. Somewhat pathological but understandable in light of being wounded.
There is no reason that he, too, should not be told that it is time to take a step back and exercise some patience himself.
In my impression, he isn’t really doing anything impatient other than his declarations. He reassures her that yes, she’s the love of his life but at the same time he’s freshly out of a particularly emotionally disturbing break-up, so it will take time for him to be fully emotionally available or capable. In essence, want the full-blown emotional relationship in a while but can’t yet be a cheerful and outgoing companion right now yet.
She doesn’t have to tell him to get lost entirely, but she ought to tell him they need to put their relationship on a far less exclusive footing.
Apart from the fact that we seem to be in agreement on that, it’s not clear to me as to which one of them wants a more committed or closer relationship than they have now.

Also, I wouldn’t focus on exclusivity but rather how committed or how close the relationship is right now on its own merit. You already know my opinion about the notion of a non-exclusive romantic relationship (for our other readers, in essence, almost as bad as communism ;)).
He is causing her a lot of anxiety
Erm, the fact that she’s experiencing anxiety, even legitimately, doesn’t mean that he’s causing it, at least in a sense that we could attribute to him along with the blame. We’re basically talking about two people reacting to each other’s behaviour here and each of them being hurt.
and there isn’t a single reason in the world that their relationship ought to revolve around “patience” for his emotions and not for hers.
And vice versa! Both of them are experiencing strong emotional reactions. Patience needs to be mutual. In contrast, in our little debate here, I think each of us is rooting for the respective sex. I probably defend the guy too much while you and some other posters seem to be on the female side (guy’s gotta be supportive and understanding towards the woman without having the right to hope for the same from her side).

There’s nothing here to suggest that he refuses to have patience for her emotions or expects only his emotions to count and not hers. If that were so, he would be telling her it’s her problem not his (like a good dark and handome male jerk does), rather than apologising and asking for her patience. In fact, being quick to apologise and accept the blame but at the same time seeking justification to prevent her from assigning the blame squarely on his shoulders might be the sign of a huge fear of rejection.

I certainly apologised for a lot of things that were mutual fault or nobody’s fault or even the woman’s fault when I struggled with that fear after a series of bad relationships or rather non-relationships, and I too cited excuses because it felt wrong to have to be the one to apologise and I wanted to justify myself or vindicate my character or prevent her from padding the tab, or just simply validate my feelings that I was vainly hoping for the woman to have a little compassion on, forget the logical reasons.

But that type of apologising does get you nowhere. At any rate, one is more apologetic with people one is (pathologically) afraid of losing. While jerks will sometimes desperately distribute the blame anywhere but on themselves and try to win your pity with their grovelling self-flagellating apologies when they actually get caught red handed, they will normally try to make you think the problem is with you, not with them. Varies from jerk to jerk, obviously, but this is my overall impression.

Also, don’t take it against him that he actually accepted that he did wrong, and apologised–instead of acting like the modern ideal of an assertive person and basically shoving her off with a line he learnt from a psychologist during an assertiveness training, and suggesting she’s imagining things and should deal with her emotions on her own. That of itself is IMHO pathological and psychologists have been and are still grooming us this way to the detriment of normal human interactions.
 
(With apologies for stealing into a conversation with someone else.)
Instincts do not make you an expert on the stock market. The OP is an expert on how she feels, however. That is not “a thousand things”. That is her direct experience of her own inner life. Do not teach her to doubt that she knows her own feelings!
Actually, not everybody knows his own feelings (let alone being able to determine the causes and other links expertly) and feelings are only a guide to help us figure out the reality, rather than an impulse-that-must-be-obeyed, commanding us to make reality conform to our feelings.
She shouldn’t give up that position to somebody else, or make his feelings paramount while hers are ignored.
Hers aren’t ignored, he acknowledged the problem and presumably apologised. In turn, I’m getting a feeling (nomen omen) that his own feelings or his right to have any are being discounted in this thread.
She should be concerned, in fact, that taking care of her feelings does not seem to be a high priority for him.
With all due respect, that does seem to be inaccurate. Not only do we lack an example of him actually disregarding her feelings, we have him apologising and essentially asking for mercy (forgiveness and understanding). You don’t apologise and make yourself vulnerable like that, placing yourself at the mercy of someone you acknowledge you may have wronged (which gives that person a lot of power) when that person’s feelings are a low priority to you.
He’s taking care of himself. He’s not taking steps to take care of her. That is not a good way to treat the “love of your life” whom you just have to make yours two weeks after you meet her.
He’s asking for patience while he’s recovering, what else can a normal person reasonably be expected to do? We can’t really say that he’s not trying to adjust his behaviour, let alone refusing to do it. I’d imagine that asking for patience is connected with putting your own effort in changing the situation for the better too.
Question your tendency to pity too easily. Pity is a socially valuable response, and t should be reserved for innocent people who are in genuine pain or who have fallen on misfortune. If, instead, you find yourself pitying someone who consistently hurts you or other people, and who actively campaigns for your sympathy, the chances are close to 100 percent that you are dealing with a sociopath.
Cutting on the pity and trying to think like a manipulator on the presumption that we’re dealing with one brings ourselves a little closer to sociopathy. Similarly, when we expect our potential love interests to be all-collected and in factory shape, we’re getting close to the looking out for one’s own benefit that’s characteristic of sociopaths, who pathologically secure their own interests at the cost of normal human motivations.
 
Again, I’d be shocked and surprised and feel uncomfortable if that type of thing followed the exchange of just a couple of general messages about work or hobbies, without deep probing, and in fact I’d be creeped off and I’d cut it right there (and I’ve done that). But if it came after two weeks of deep, heavy, intense and bonding conversations day by day for several long hours, then I’d understand that somewhat, even if I didn’t feel the same (just because the feelings aren’t symmetrical doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong on either side).

Also, we don’t really know how the relationship developed…

…Erm, the fact that she’s experiencing anxiety, even legitimately, doesn’t mean that he’s causing it, at least in a sense that we could attribute to him along with the blame. We’re basically talking about two people reacting to each other’s behaviour here and each of them being hurt.

And vice versa! Both of them are experiencing strong emotional reactions. Patience needs to be mutual. In contrast, in our little debate here, I think each of us is rooting for the respective sex. I probably defend the guy too much while you and some other posters seem to be on the female side (guy’s gotta be supportive and understanding towards the woman without having the right to hope for the same from her side).

There’s nothing here to suggest that he refuses to have patience for her emotions or expects only his emotions to count and not hers. If that were so, he would be telling her it’s her problem not his (like a good dark and handome male jerk does), rather than apologising and asking for her patience. In fact, being quick to apologise and accept the blame but at the same time seeking justification to prevent her from assigning the blame squarely on his shoulders might be the sign of a huge fear of rejection.

I certainly apologised for a lot of things that were mutual fault or nobody’s fault or even the woman’s fault when I struggled with that fear after a series of bad relationships or rather non-relationships, and I too cited excuses because it felt wrong to have to be the one to apologise and I wanted to justify myself or vindicate my character or prevent her from padding the tab, or just simply validate my feelings that I was vainly hoping for the woman to have a little compassion on, forget the logical reasons.

But that type of apologising does get you nowhere. At any rate, one is more apologetic with people one is (pathologically) afraid of losing. While jerks will sometimes desperately distribute the blame anywhere but on themselves and try to win your pity with their grovelling self-flagellating apologies when they actually get caught red handed, they will normally try to make you think the problem is with you, not with them. Varies from jerk to jerk, obviously, but this is my overall impression.

Also, don’t take it against him that he actually accepted that he did wrong, and apologised–instead of acting like the modern ideal of an assertive person and basically shoving her off with a line he learnt from a psychologist during an assertiveness training, and suggesting she’s imagining things and should deal with her emotions on her own. That of itself is IMHO pathological and psychologists have been and are still grooming us this way to the detriment of normal human interactions.
You are way over-thinking this. This relationship makes her feel anxious. She tells him this on several occasions, and he says that basically he’s at a point in his life where this is just how he’s going to act, and that she should just put up with it (“be patient”).

I mean, you say yourself: In essence, want the full-blown emotional relationship in a while but can’t yet be a cheerful and outgoing companion right now yet. Great! Let him call her back “in awhile!” If he’s not emotionally available now, it is not cold-hearted to tell him to be patient with himself and quit trying to rush into another intimate relationship before he’s healed enough from the last one to stop making excuses for not being a decent companion for her. Don’t make her wait around for a process that no one can predict.

He is coming on too fast and yet pushing back and expecting patience, he is expecting too much, and* she isn’t comfortable with it*. For crying out loud, let her listen to her own feelings, and back off from him until he gets a handle on his. That is not too much to ask, and there are many prudent reasons to take that course, instead.

Again: If he were my own brother or close friend, this is what I’d want her to do for him as much as for her. He’s not got a handle on himself. He needs to cool his jets for awhile. It will not hurt him, and it is in fact reasonable that it will prevent a lot of mutual harm that could have been avoided by just backing off until the inflammation goes down.

He’s not ready to date yet, and no one knows when he will be. You don’t heal from being a co-dependent to an alcoholic in a day! Better to take off the pressure of a second relationship for the time being. I’m thinking they’d tell him the same thing at Al-Anon.
 
Catechism of the Catholic Church on the Eighth Commandment said:
2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury. He becomes guilty:
  • of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
  • of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another’s faults and failings to persons who did not know them;
  • of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor’s thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way:

Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.

Now, this has to do with heresy in context, but expand the context, and I believe it is applicable: everyone is interpreting this man’s actions in the most unfavorable light that it is possible to give them, without having hardly any information (Chevalier kindly distilled the two pieces of information we do have in his above post).
Again, I’d be shocked and surprised and feel uncomfortable if that type of thing followed the exchange of just a couple of general messages about work or hobbies, without deep probing, and in fact I’d be creeped off and I’d cut it right there (and I’ve done that). But if it came after two weeks of deep, heavy, intense and bonding conversations day by day for several long hours, then I’d understand that somewhat, even if I didn’t feel the same (just because the feelings aren’t symmetrical doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong on either side).
I’m an intense individual. That being granted, I have made similar declarations, complete with the overwrought hyperbole, after knowing a woman for a month or less. (As all with a religious vocation know, it can be a scary thing, and the immediate refuge is in a relationship and the hope of marriage, so it may be that “running from vocation” was my equivalent of a recent break-up.) One of them was, as in the OP, someone I met over the internet; after speaking for six, eight, or more hours a day for several weeks, I would have said such a thing - but I personally had known it was the case within hours of first speaking to said individual, so I slowed myself down.

Do I regret it? No. I still remember, I likely always will, barring senility, and believe my statements to have been accurate. Now, can one have more than one “love of one’s life”? I believe so, in sheer emotional feeling and attachment, although not in terms of viable relationships (marriage is once, always and forever in this mortal coil).

Now, if everything above happened in the context of a regular friendship, it wouldn’t be considered odd in the slightest, to have met a best friend, and know that he will be such, within just a single conversation, or a few hours - it would be rare for it to be more, and looked upon with no suspicion. The whole, “I think God brings people together” type of thing, after just one conversation - now, not for romantic relationships, but for Platonic ones. Take the situation, and transpose it in to the key of friendship, and it seems normal, not extraordinary.
 
Now, this has to do with heresy in context, but expand the context, and I believe it is applicable: everyone is interpreting this man’s actions in the most unfavorable light that it is possible to give them, without having hardly any information (Chevalier kindly distilled the two pieces of information we do have in his above post).
It is rash to tell the woman that she does not know how she feels, too. We are not grabbing some friend by the collar and saying, “You shouldn’t let him treat you that way” when no one in the relationship sees anything wrong and no one asked our opinion. We’re not telling her “don’t feel the way you feel…you ought to feel some other way.” We are saying, “Yes, we understand why you feel the way you feel, and we encourage you to trust your own feelings about your own situation and the treatment you feel you have been receiving.”

No, you do not overrule the way you feel about someone you are dating and go with “rational analysis”, instead. No, no, no. It is foolish to choose a dress that way, let alone to run a courtship that way!

And tell me, what happens when she overrules her feelings and stuffs her instinct into a sack, and six months later he’s even more attached to her, but her feelings have only grown more anxious and she finally has to tell him, “You know, I never felt right about this relationship, but you said to be patient so I buried my instincts, but this is just not working for me.” What happens to the poor guy then? How is he going to feel about trusting women then? What kind of rejection is he going to feel then? Is that what you want for him, and in the state he’s in?

If she is feeling this relationship is not right, she needs to be honest about that and back off. It is not going to be easier for her to admit those feelings down the road, and those are not feelings she can count on to go away. She does not need to make excuses or accusations or lay the blame on anybody. She only needs to say “the place our relationship is in does not feel right to me. I’m feeling very anxious about it, and I don’t like it. You are very attractive, I hesitate to miss this chance, but I need us to back away, at least for now.”

I am getting to be an old lady, I have seen too many people ignore their own gut feelings about intimate relationships, and it does not tend to work out well when they do. This couple may have a future down the road, but she won’t build a good relationship by acting as if her boundaries are not what they are. That just does not work.
 
It is rash to tell the woman that she does not know how she feels, too. We are not grabbing some friend by the collar and saying, “You shouldn’t let him treat you that way” when no one in the relationship sees anything wrong and no one asked our opinion. We’re not telling her “don’t feel the way you feel…you ought to feel some other way.” We are saying, “Yes, we understand why you feel the way you feel, and we encourage you to trust your own feelings about your own situation and the treatment you feel you have been receiving.”
Pardon my interruption, but in their defense, that’s not what Khalid and Chevalier are saying. Instead, their recommendation is that the OP recognise the limits of her instinct, and balance it against a more objective consideration more favourable to the man in question. That’s all.

I believe the OP is, more likely than not, in a rebound relationship. From experience, I prefer taking definitive action in the early dating phase; especially given a sensitive background, I don’t want someone feeling misled because I’m indecisive.

However, there’s nothing unreasonable or rash about the approach Khalid and Chevalier suggest: wait, watch, then judge. They only raise an alternative possibility, and hey, maybe it’s more suitable for the OP’s situation than the aforesaid advice.

And to be fair, we’re all throwing out different possibilities here. At least one member has suggested that the man suffers from a personality disorder. We don’t have his side of the story, so it’s best to avoid jumping to too many conclusions.
 
Pardon my interruption, but in their defense, that’s not what Khalid and Chevalier are saying. Instead, their recommendation is that the OP recognise the limits of her instinct, and balance it against a more objective consideration more favourable to the man in question. That’s all.

I believe the OP is, more likely than not, in a rebound relationship. From experience, I prefer taking definitive action in the early dating phase; especially given a sensitive background, I don’t want someone feeling misled because I’m indecisive.

However, there’s nothing unreasonable or rash about the approach Khalid and Chevalier suggest: wait, watch, then judge. They only raise an alternative possibility, and hey, maybe it’s more suitable for the OP’s situation than the aforesaid advice.

And to be fair, we’re all throwing out different possibilities here. At least one member has suggested that the man suffers from a personality disorder. We don’t have his side of the story, so it’s best to avoid jumping to too many conclusions.
If you talk to marriage counselors, they won’t tell you that ignoring your instincts and anxiety you feel about a relationship is a good idea. It is a very bad idea and not a good habit. It is NOT the foundation for a healthy relationship, even between healthy people. For two healthy people to have a healthy relationship, there still has to be a healthy willingness to be honest and a healthy willingness to hold each other to healthy boundaries. What is a healthy boundary? It is one that doesn’t leave us feeling anxious and worried about what we’re giving and taking in relationship. “If your relationship has you feeling bad or worried, speak up and work something out until you don’t feel that way.” This is not brain surgery!

I would never in a million years make a psychiatric diagnosis of somebody just because I felt that our relationship was a bit too close for what he was telling me he could bring to it or because I wasn’t feeling good about it. Situations and particular relationships can bring out behaviors or suppress behaviors that aren’t indicative of the person’s character as a whole. Put a person in the wrong relationship or at the wrong time, and they can act in one way, but at a different time or with a different person, they might act very differently. (Or not…you can’t tell.)

My point is that she doesn’t have to make a psychiatric diagnosis to know that wrong relationships with someone who does turn out to have a psychiatric diagnosis can happen when you start down the road of letting abnormal situations slide because you feel sorry for somebody. It is one thing to say, “I’m sorry I did that, I guess I’m less over the last person than I thought, I won’t do that again”–that is, giving past emotional baggage as a reason for a slip-up–and another thing to say, “The defense for my offense against you is my last relationship, and I expect you to tolerate it because I’m still getting past that wound.” Do you see the difference? One says that the wound is behind the slip-up, but takes responsibility for not letting it happen again, while the second lets the wound be an excuse for behavior that someone tells you hurt them.

It is tempting to make excuses for ourselves, it is natural to make excuses, but we shouldn’t be the least bit offended when the people we have hurt don’t buy into our excuses. It is better for us if they don’t, and we ought to value friends who hold us to being the better version of ourselves. It is also better when they can be up front and say, “No, that doesn’t work for me, I don’t feel right about this arrangement” instead of feeling like they have to go along with what we want in order to be “patient” or “giving” or any of the rest. When he asks her for the patience that is right for them, both for him and for her, she will feel good about her patience. It may be hard, but she’ll feel it is the right thing.
 
The point, here, on feelings, can be distilled thus:

We do not know if her feelings are caused exclusively by the man, by her reaction to them, or by a combination of factors. Some anxiety is normal in any relationship’s beginning. We have little information, whether it is her reaction, or the man’s action, or her reaction to the man’s reaction to her action. It is incorrect to spin this as negatively as possible, to rely solely on gut feelings - from afar, nevertheless - and automatically assume the problem lay with the man, and not with the original poster’s reaction to what may be normal behavior. Everything we know is filtered through the perceptual and emotional filters of the original poster.

To take your personality-disorder-accusation a little further, what is to say that it is not the original poster who has borderline or dependent personality disorder, or some form of anxiety disorder, or an adult version of attachment disorder? Once diagnoses are thrown around, the sword cuts both ways.

Until otherwise, I assume that both individuals are not mentally ill, the relationship likely fits at least one definition of “rebound”, and, furthermore, that this is no reason to throw it away, as there is no concrete (or even indirect) evidence that the relationship is harmful in the slightest in any way, and there is indirect evidence to the contrary.

Take in to account that now, once what would have been written in a diary, is posted on the internet for feedback in an anonymous forum (thanks to that anonymity, and inability to judge or bind what we do not know, and can only judge, but not bind, what we are told, unlike in meatspace situations, where we can both judge and bind from our own apperception [in the psychological, not the epistemological, sense], and not mediately through the apperception [in the epistemological sense] of others).

Now, that is charitable to all involved, but it can be distilled further:

We do not know, and have no reason to suspect that there is a problem. If there is, we do not know, and have no reason to suspect, that it is the get of the man, and not of the original poster’s reactions, which may be maladaptive.
 
What tells me, Khalid and Chevelier, that you are not fathers with daughters? I don’t know if you’re even married or not, but you talk more like guys who have not found their brides yet. She is reporting distress, and you are pooh-poohing it and saying, “Oh, anxiety, that is normal.” He, meanwhile, is reporting that he hurts her because of his last relationship, and you don’t see that as any evidence at all that no, he is not over his last relationship and therefore yes, he is on the rebound.

*We have no reason to suspect there is a problem? *She gets off the phone, bursts into tears, and you say, “Some anxiety is normal in any relationship’s beginning”? Really?!? I can tell you, guys, when I’ve gotten off the phone with a boyfriend and burst into tears, we had a problem, Houston! When my girlfriends told me about their boyfriends and they burst into tears, they had a problem!

If that testimony isn’t enough, what do you need? Physical evidence? And if is she who has an emotional problem instead of the man pursuing her, what possible difference would that make? Why would that make it OK to tell her that she has no reason to pay attention to her own feelings and perceptions? If her feelings and perceptions aren’t important in the process of choosing a husband, then tell me, pray tell…WHAT IS IMPORTANT? Have you guys so totally identified with the man who is pursing the OP that you have taken leave of your senses?

Let us review
  1. New relationship is causing a lot of anxiety. Have you been in a lot of new relationships that cause a lot of anxiety? I have news for you: New relationships, taken at the right pace, feel very nice. You are concerned, perhaps, that you might make a mis-step and mess things up, but you are not worried that the person pursuing you is asking too much of you too soon. That is not typical of a relationship that is progressing well.
  2. Perception that this was a wonderful guy was formed via the internet, but the perception since actually meeting gives her pause. Always put more stock in the actual experience of a person when the actual experience is what you’re signing up for. She’s not looking for a pen pal. She’s looking for a spouse. She has to be smitten with him as he is in person. So far, he is getting mixed reviews.
  3. He was telling her that she was the love of his life two weeks after he met her. Her immediate response was not “Me, too!” Her immediate response was that the declaration was out of place…“For me was very unusual.” IOW, this was going too fast for her out of the gates. That is a problem.
  4. He started dating her *3 months *out of a relationship with an active alcoholic that he tells her “left him damaged”. He described himself as being in a relationship with this someone that he characterized as someone he knew was out of control, but that he stayed because he hoped the situation would change. Does anyone see a parallel here?
  5. I told him I don’t want to be a rebound, I don’t want to be used so he can forget about her. He seems to think because he isn’t “in love” with his ex, it shouldn’t matter to the OP that he hasn’t recovered from “the damage she cause him” to “his self-worth as a person.” If anything, I’d say that level of emotional wounding goes far beyond what I’d characterize as “on the rebound.” He’s over this other woman, yet he says, “he hasn’t healed, and I need to be patient.”
  6. I burst into tears when we hung up, because I don’t understand him, everything contradicts itself. Yes, I can imagine she did. Yet somehow Chevelier and Khalid think this is part and parcel of a normal relationship. Newsflash!!! This is NOT part and parcel of a normal relationship! This is typical of some person trying to use their current relationship as a salve to get over their last one.
  7. Here is the red flag bursting with fireworks, though:
    Is hard to admit but his baggage is affecting me.
    Deep down I don’t trust when he tells me he loves me and
    is causing me lot of anxiety.
    I then start to doubt and feel insecure of myself…
She told him she didn’t want to be used to get over his last relationship, but that is precisely what he is doing, and it is hurting her. That is a Problem, and how you two can preach about charity with no concern whatsoever for what this is doing to her is beyond me!! I don’t know why you think this guy is entitled to have the OP nurse him, no matter what it costs her, and even if it is going to get their relationship started on a foundation in which she is expected to ignore her own profound feelings of anxiety and be “patient” with him, even as this whole thing is making the insecurities GROW in HER!!

When this guy can start taking responsibility to stop doing things that he finds hurt his girlfriend, then they’ll be ready to start getting serious again. Until then, he needs to go sort out his feelings and stop taking out what his last girlfriend did to him on her. It isn’t fair, and it won’t help him heal. It will only drag the OP down into his emotional wounds. That does no one any good, and how that bill of goods can be sold in the name of “charity” is beyond me!!

Give up the lawyering on behalf of your “client”, and go find me a priest or a professional counselor who disagrees with me, guys. Find someone who does this for a living that says charity requires you to ignore it when the guy courting you makes you feel anxious and worse about yourself. Find that authority, then I’ll sit up and take some notes. Until then, until you can tell me that people who help others pick up the pieces for a living tell me that this is nothing outside the normal hazards of battle…leave the OP alone.
 
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