Am I too scrupulous here? (speed limits)

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Alright, I won’t say it will never happen, but even if it did, I think this will be far enough into the future where I will have enough money to invest up to a few grand in purchasing the anti black box that will also come out throwing off the machine that proves you are speeding. You can’t argue with that since you know as well as I do someone will come out with a way to get around the system and make money off it and they sure will since I guarantee there will be a huge market with high demand for it. Yet another way the poor get the bad end of things.
 
No, anyone who has studied basic physics will tell you that traffick will travel much more smoothly and all cars will get to their destination faster if they are all travelling about the same speed. Having some cars travel much faster creates chaotic and inefficient traffic movement. Not to mention the tailgating, the dangerous lane-hopping etc which together with speeding cause accidents which really clog up the traffic. Especially fatal accidents (which happen ONLY at high speed) which jam the traffic for an hour or more while the police investigators do their work.
Alright, that is only if there are no distractions and no braking and everything is going in unison perfecrtly. I know my statement is valid since back in the days when the speed limit was first changed to 55 (I was not born then but my uncle told me about it), two people out of protest drove side by side on a two lane highway (395 in CA) at exactly 55 mph. Before they were able to break the two cars up, traffic was backed up for miles. The speed limit was back at 65 once I started driving but I know my statement is valid.
 
sure he did, Jesus went and healed the sick on the Sabbath.
And in what parallel universe would a law forbidding healing the sick on the sabbath ever be morally OK? That was most emphatically the OPPOSITE of a morally ok law, which is why he broke it.
 
Especially fatal accidents (which happen ONLY at high speed) which jam the traffic for an hour or more while the police investigators do their work.
True in many cases, but don’t forget about the law of conservation of energy, (energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed in form). When two objects collide, the energy must be absorbed.

So if a logging truck hits a small car at low speeds, who absorbs the kinetic energy? The smaller of the two objects. At 30 KPH, a large or loaded vehicle can cause significant life-threatening injuries to people in a smaller vehicle.

And imagine what it could do to a pedestrian. :eek:

And for all you speeders, think about this: When you crash, there are three separate impacts, each involving the transfer of kinetic energy.

First, your vehicle comes to an abrupt stop against a foreign object. In this first collision, kinetic energy is absorbed by the deformation of your vehicle.

The second collision happens when your body collides with interior objects, (like the steering wheel, windshield and dashboard) in your car. When your car comes to that abrupt stop, your body is still travelling at the same speed as the car. The kinetic energy has to be absorbed, so your body takes the impact.

The third impact is when your vital organs, like your heart, lungs and brain, are hurled violently against your body’s structures like the chest wall and the skull. The brain can actually be thrown back and forth inside the skull as your body decelerates.

So, just why is it that people speed? :confused:
 
yeah and there can also be a fatal accident that I missed by only a miute because I sped and then if I were going the speed limit I would have been right in it. I speed because it for one and most importantly, gets me to my destination faster and two, because it is fun.
 
yeah and there can also be a fatal accident that I missed by only a miute because I sped and then if I were going the speed limit I would have been right in it.
That’s ridiculous. If everyone is driving safely, there will be no accident.

However (and especially if you are noticing accidents behind you on a regular basis) - have you considered the fact that your speeding may have been the catalyst for the fatal accident that occurred behind you - if you forced someone into the next lane of on-coming traffic by careening up behind them too quickly, for example?
I speed because it for one and most importantly, gets me to my destination faster and two, because it is fun.
How about leaving on time so that you don’t have to speed? And how about taking into account that driving is an adult responsibility, and that your car is not a toy?

By the way, if you want to race, there are private race tracks where you can go and do that. The public roadways are not for racing on, though.
 
yeah and there can also be a fatal accident that I missed by only a miute because I sped and then if I were going the speed limit I would have been right in it. I speed because it for one and most importantly, gets me to my destination faster and two, because it is fun.
You probably don’t realize just how many people cause an accident and keep going, totally unaware of what occurred behind them. We have had the RCMP stop people in the next town, to inform them that they caused an accident. (Now if people would only use their rear view mirrors) :rolleyes:

When I speed, I do it legally. Yes, it’s fun to drive with lights and sirens, and be able to legally disobey the rules of the road. But it’s also a huge responsibility. One I don’t take lightly.
 
That’s ridiculous. If everyone is driving safely, there will be no accident.
However (and especially if you are noticing accidents behind you on a regular basis) - have you considered the fact that your speeding may have been the catalyst for the fatal accident that occurred behind you - if you forced someone into the next lane of on-coming traffic by careening up behind them too quickly, for example?

How about leaving on time so that you don’t have to speed? And how about taking into account that driving is an adult responsibility, and that your car is not a toy?

By the way, if you want to race, there are private race tracks where you can go and do that. The public roadways are not for racing on, though.
Just one thought on this. Many accidents are caused by medical conditions. Seizures, heart attacks, hypoglycemia, aneurisms, and strokes can and do occur while people are driving. Speed, though, is certainly the most common cause of all the accidents I have been to.
 
Just one thought on this. Many accidents are caused by medical conditions. Seizures, heart attacks, hypoglycemia, aneurisms, and strokes can and do occur while people are driving. Speed, though, is certainly the most common cause of all the accidents I have been to.
There is also poor automobile maintenance - thin tires, iffy brakes, and so on. We recently had a case where a guy was unable to stop in rush hour traffic, and decided to go up on the sidewalk instead of rear-end the driver in front of him. He hit quite a few pedestrians - it would have been better for him to have rear-ended someone, but he probably wasn’t thinking straight.

But for the most part, common sense should tell people not to drive a car that might not make it to the destination, and not to drive if they are in poor health - and even if they don’t, we would still reduce the death toll by quite a bit if people would just follow the posted speed limits, along with the other signs and signals.
 
If you drive a car with the understanding that it’s not all about you, you will have a much better chance at being safe. In fact, that’s probably a good metaphor for life in general.

After 30 years of treating trauma of all sorts, I can tell you that self-centeredness is a major risk factor.

Seeking Christ daily will make you safer, even in this world.
 
yeah and there can also be a fatal accident that I missed by only a miute because I sped and then if I were going the speed limit I would have been right in it
This is not sound logic as a general approach to things. Your logic could just as well be applied to going half the speed limit to avoid an accident by a minute so your argument does not at all support speeding. The purpose of driving at a safe speed is to reduce risk.
I speed…
Do you mean that you exceed the speed limit by a lot?
…because it is fun.
Don’t drive at a speed of endangerment:

“Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.”
The Catechism of the Catholic Church
usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3sect2chpt2art5.htm
 
I speed because it for one and most importantly, gets me to my destination faster and two, because it is fun.
And what would you say to someone who said, “I fornicate before marriage because it gets me to my “destination” faster and because it is fun”?
 
That’s ridiculous. If everyone is driving safely, there will be no accident.

However (and especially if you are noticing accidents behind you on a regular basis) - have you considered the fact that your speeding may have been the catalyst for the fatal accident that occurred behind you - if you forced someone into the next lane of on-coming traffic by careening up behind them too quickly, for example?

How about leaving on time so that you don’t have to speed? And how about taking into account that driving is an adult responsibility, and that your car is not a toy?

By the way, if you want to race, there are private race tracks where you can go and do that. The public roadways are not for racing on, though.
Well, my car only goes to 125 at most and then then it shuts down two of the pistons and it immediately drops to 90 like that. It really scared me to death the first time that happened since I thought my car broke down and at that speed, that would not be good. The point is I can not race my car. Also, it is only fun the first time for the purposes of curiosity. I think it is stupid to drive that fast and only had to test it out once to see how fast I could go. The second time I reached that speed was completely by accident in the middle of nowhere where I just did not realize it going down a long hill (I only wanted to go 100) Really, I think the fun part is knowing that at any given moment you might get a ticket and you have to be on constant watch to avoid that. Finally, it is only necesary to speed mainly on long drives when I am alone and extremely bored like the 10 hour trip back home from college. I would never speed excesively with a passenger in the car since that is not safe.
 
Well, my car only goes to 125 at most and then then it shuts down two of the pistons and it immediately drops to 90 like that. It really scared me to death the first time that happened since I thought my car broke down and at that speed, that would not be good. The point is I can not race my car. Also, it is only fun the first time for the purposes of curiosity. I think it is stupid to drive that fast and only had to test it out once to see how fast I could go. The second time I reached that speed was completely by accident in the middle of nowhere where I just did not realize it going down a long hill (I only wanted to go 100) Really, I think the fun part is knowing that at any given moment you might get a ticket and you have to be on constant watch to avoid that. Finally, it is only necesary to speed mainly on long drives when I am alone and extremely bored like the 10 hour trip back home from college. I would never speed excesively with a passenger in the car since that is not safe.
Again, if speeding with a passenger is unsafe, speeding the same by yourself is EQUALLY unsafe! The mere fact that you seem to think it isn’t proves that you are a completely clueless driver!
 
Well, my car only goes to 125 at most and then then it shuts down two of the pistons and it immediately drops to 90 like that. It really scared me to death the first time that happened since I thought my car broke down and at that speed, that would not be good. The point is I can not race my car. Also, it is only fun the first time for the purposes of curiosity. I think it is stupid to drive that fast and only had to test it out once to see how fast I could go. The second time I reached that speed was completely by accident in the middle of nowhere where I just did not realize it going down a long hill (I only wanted to go 100) Really, I think the fun part is knowing that at any given moment you might get a ticket and you have to be on constant watch to avoid that. Finally, it is only necesary to speed mainly on long drives when I am alone and extremely bored like the 10 hour trip back home from college. I would never speed excesively with a passenger in the car since that is not safe.
Are you taking MPH or KPH? If it’s MPH you are going *wayyyy toooo *fast. And, I see you are only 21, and that alone increases your risk of dying behind the wheel. (or as a passenger for that matter). And if you are male that increases your risk of dying accidentally even further. I hope I never have to scrape you off the road.
 
Really, I think the fun part is knowing that at any given moment you might get a ticket and you have to be on constant watch to avoid that.
The reason that they come along and give you a ticket is because they can see that you are just about to kill either yourself or someone else.

Speeding is illegal because it’s dangerous, and the danger has nothing to do with getting caught. If you get caught, it means that your life (and someone else’s) was saved, and you aren’t in any more danger.

Not that speed in and of itself can kill; it’s the sudden unexpected stop that does it - that wrenches your head and limbs off, and spreads them all over the front windshield like strawberry jam and cheese.
 
I was definitey talking about miles. That was way too fast and as I said I was just curious as to how fast my little car could go. However, as I said, I don’t go as fast anymore and never go at a faster speed than I think is safe. I usually only go 75mph on average which is only speeding by a little. That is largely due to the fact that you can only go 10mph over the speed limit to not get a ticket and you can only eliminate one ticket from your record every 18 months. In January I probably will go about 80-90 mph again but I went 4 years the first time before being caught. I bet I can go another 4. The point is I still only go fast when I feel it is safe since the flow of traffic is also going that fast or there is no one out there. The reason I don’t go that fast with passengers is because passengers need to feel safe for one and also, it is one thing to get pulled over by yourself, it is quite another to be embarrassed and have to hear it for the rest of the car ride or trip that you got a ticket and stuff.
 
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