America in 2030

[IronHammer]

I’m sorry, while I too am worried about these things, we need to be careful about what we see or comes to us. How do we know Satan is leading you to despair, if this truly isn’t just the ramblings in your head.

I am not despairing or delerious. It’s just a considered opinion of what the future might hold. I pray for our country every single day. I love my country and even served in the military years ago. But it is becoming something else. Something very different from a free republic.

Secondly, the whole post gets off at Obama being reelected in 2016.

Read again. He was elected again 2020 after an unmentioned President served from 2016 to 2020.

Anyway, I think you’ve taken a little too much far right koolaid (though i’ll admit better than far left kool aid) and you need to actually pray. I doubt any of this will happen, but if you start praying,it won’t. Something betterwill come along

One of the main points of the post was to demonstrate how the majority of Americans are leaning left and that trend seems to be growing. Look at the split in the last several elections. Conservatism, once a bastion of democracy in America, is on the decline. Our young people seem to be embracing socialism by the droves.

And I disagree that Obama wouldn’t want to be elected a third time. I think he would love another crack at it, especially if the majority was behind him. He loves the spotlight. Someone like him always “has more work to do”. But I hope you are right that “something better will come along”. But for that to happen, we will need a Republican party that can get off the neocon train and get back to conservative principles but yet not be so divisive on immigration and social issues. How does that happen? shrug I have my doubts, that’s why I think the Republican Party is becoming deeply fractured and weakened as a result.

 

[Crescentinus]

I sadly picture an America where Catholicism and heterosexuality are both outlawed and demonized, if we follow the logical conclusion of what has been happening.

 

[pete_29]

As I’ve stated before, the conservative William F. Buckley, back in the 1970’s, expressed the view that marijuana, and even harder drugs, should be legalized. Stiffer penalties never have and will not get rid of drug use.

I wonder if the mother in my town who came home and found both of her sons dead from a heroin overdose would agree with Mr. Buckley. If heroin was legal, would that have saved them?

 

[benjammin]

I am not despairing or delerious. It’s just a considered opinion of what the future might hold. I pray for our country every single day. I love my country and even served in the military years ago. But it is becoming something else. Something very different from a free republic.

Read again. He was elected again 2020 after an unmentioned President served from 2016 to 2020.

One of the main points of the post was to demonstrate how the majority of Americans are leaning left and that trend seems to be growing. Look at the split in the last several elections. Conservatism, once a bastion of democracy in America, is on the decline. Our young people seem to be embracing socialism by the droves.

And I disagree that Obama wouldn’t want to be elected a third time. I think he would love another crack at it, especially if the majority was behind him. He loves the spotlight. Someone like him always “has more work to do”. But I hope you are right that “something better will come along”. But for that to happen, we will need a Republican party that can get off the neocon train and get back to conservative principles but yet not be so divisive on immigration and social issues. How does that happen? shrug I have my doubts, that’s why I think the Republican Party is becoming deeply fractured and weakened as a result.

What politician doesn’t love the spotlight. Thats why they are there. Even Saint Ronald Reagan did (granted he was a good president except for iran contra, but you can’t be perfect). Also maybe this is a case where the ego’s of Democrats might come in handy. I have a hard time believing that other Democrats would let Obama just run wild like that. Hilary wants a crack, Biden even wants one I have a hard time beleiving the party would allow it.

Also, how many people here would be totally okay, if it was a Republican doing the same thing. You’d all be jumping for joy. Even i’d be a little euphoric until I realized one party rule usually leads to abuse.

But, I honestly believe it won’t happen. These doom and gloom predictions always happen after elections. Also, I don’t get why people think Obama is just going to run roughshod over us. He only won 51% of the vote. Not 75% Not 60% not even 55%. How hard is it to convince 2% of the population to overturn his mandates.

Also, just saying. Why do people assume the worst about Obama. No one ever said this about Bill Clinton? And he loves the spotlight more than Obama.

 

[JimG]

Interesting scenario, Iron Hammer. I especially liked the part about the pope naming American bishops in pectore, because he could not name them publicly, as in China. It could happen. The society you describe sounds a little like that described in “The Hunger Games” trilogy.

However, with the debt crisis nearly insoluble both in the U.S. and in the EU, I suspect that a global depression would reset the economy and the politics before we reach the point you have described.

 

[IronHammer]

Interesting scenario, Iron Hammer. I especially liked the part about the pope naming American bishops in pectore, because he could not name them publicly, as in China. It could happen. The society you describe sounds a little like that described in “The Hunger Games” trilogy.

However, with the debt crisis nearly insoluble both in the U.S. and in the EU, I suspect that a global depression would reset the economy and the politics before we reach the point you have described.

I take great consolation in that fact that, no matter what the future holds, God is the Great Architect I am perfectly good with whatever he has planned.

I have become convinced that, in the end, the American Experiment would fail because humans can’t handle true liberty. In fact, I actually expect a massive part of the population to embrace hedonism and atheism because of our fallen nature. What I did not expect is that Christianity could be increasingly marginalized and demonized, often legally, in a free republic. That concerns me greatly but, again, it must be part of God’s plan.

 

[JimG]

I take great consolation in that fact that, no matter what the future holds, God is the Great Architect I am perfectly good with whatever he has planned.

I have become convinced that, in the end, the American Experiment would fail because humans can’t handle true liberty. In fact, I actually expect a massive part of the population to embrace hedonism and atheism because of our fallen nature. What I did not expect is that Christianity could be increasingly marginalized and demonized, often legally, in a free republic. That concerns me greatly but, again, it must be part of God’s plan.

Well, a great many have already embraced hedonism. And atheism is making great strides, probably because it enables the hedonism. And Christianity, because its recognition of a binding moral order is a threat to hedonism, is under attack, and will continue to be so.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Hopefully marijuana is legalized.

The U.S. mens soccer team wins the World Cup? :ehh:

We find out Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin were both born men?

Did you just throw Hilary there so you could make fun of Palin and presumably not look as bad doing?

 

[SuperLuigi]

Is the republican party even going to exist?



Like seriously…

Every year, I feel as if it’s an entity that continues to get smaller, and smaller; something that could end up just existing in the deep South.

And, you forgot to mention how the democratic party is going to split, into two different parties.

Anyway, I’ll be probably be living on the other side of the Pacific or Equator, by 2030.

Republican party registration soared before the election and it’s going to get even bigger.

 

[aragonjohn1]

I’m sorry, while I too am worried about these things, we need to be careful about what we see or comes to us. How do we know Satan is leading you to despair, if this truly isn’t just the ramblings in your head.

Secondly, the whole post gets off at Obama being reelected in 2016. Barring World War 3 Occuring (and even then it would be unlikely) Obama would not run for a third term. Could you imagine the storm that would brew among not only conservatives, but moderates. I’m sure even some Libs would say he couldn’t do that, though they’d rather support another democrat. I’m sorry, Obama is a bad president, but for heaven’s sake I don’t think he wants to be president that long. Even if America conforms to his will, it still would be a tiring job.

Anyway, I think you’ve taken a little too much far right koolaid (though i’ll admit better than far left kool aid) and you need to actually pray. I doubt any of this will happen, but if you start praying,it won’t. Something betterwill come along

That reminds me

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Shalom
God bless

 

[Glomung]

There will be no United States in 2030. The UN will be the one world government in less than 4 years. Not a prediction, just acknowledgement of what powerful men are doing now.

 

[SuperLuigi]

There will be no United States in 2030. The UN will be the one world government in less than 4 years. Not a prediction, just acknowledgement of what powerful men are doing now.

Well, that won’t happen either. Money is power, and they have less money than NYC.

Do you really think that the UN would be able to corral Saudi Arabia or Iran into some kind of urbanesque secular utopia as implied by Agenda 21?

Good luck with that!

 

[SuperLuigi]

To be honest, this makes me wonder. Any country with a 60% income tax would collapse rather quickly. Despite what you hear from the republican party, the United States of America is still more free and conservative (and Christian) than any other NATO pact country, Asia is mostly atheist, and Australia has a government that many Christians would take to be highly immoral.

I’d be less surprised to find America, even in a battered state, as the last stronghold of Christians than America going anti-Christian.

That will be the case if we could ever get back to states rights, but that means no more 30 pieces of silver in the forms of made-up federal rights and subsidies.

The stronghold of Christianity is heading towards Canada and is already establishing itself in Africa and has been in Latin America for 500 years.

The difference is they don’t have freedom.

 

[GEddie]

That will be the case if we could ever get back to states rights, but that means no more 30 pieces of silver in the forms of made-up federal rights and subsidies.

The stronghold of Christianity is heading towards Canada and is already establishing itself in Africa and has been in Latin America for 500 years.

The difference is they don’t have freedom.

I am sure Canadians would be surprised to learn they have no freedom.

Methinks you have drunk a wee bit too much Kool Aid yourself. USA is a great country, but it is not a three-letter synonym for freedom.

Shalom and ICXC NIKA

 

[TimeEntrance]

I sadly picture an America where Catholicism and heterosexuality [is] both outlawed and demonized, if we follow the logical conclusion of what has been happening.

LOL!!! I could see that happening to Catholicism and Christianity as a whole. But I can’t foresee that happening to heterosexuality.

While homosexuality has been brought more into the mainstream and given some “cool point” by the public at large, it is still a minority orientation of human sexuality. And male homosexuality is embraced by liberals and the liberal media in the form of televised minstrels (the way black people used to be embraced). The one exception I can think of was that well crafted movie Broke Back Mountain.

Just society encourages far less persecution of male homosexuals and lesbians (or racial minorities) does not mean the sky is falling on heterosexuals (or white people).

Take Mia Maestro. What 100 gay guys prefer to do to each other in Milwaukee would have no bearing on what I might prefer to do with a woman endowed with her physical proportions and curves. I’m pretty sure 10,000 heterosexual males would agree with me irrespective of their political leanings.

http://www.miamaestro.net/Mia-Maestro-Dress.jpg

 

[Mar044]

barren wasteland like the game fallout

 

[ConstantineTG]

That will be the case if we could ever get back to states rights, but that means no more 30 pieces of silver in the forms of made-up federal rights and subsidies.

The stronghold of Christianity is heading towards Canada and is already establishing itself in Africa and has been in Latin America for 500 years.

The difference is they don’t have freedom.

Christianity in Canada is strong because of immigrants. But it is only a matter of time before the succeeding generations of these immigrant families integrate into the secular society and also lose faith. Most RC parishes here are filled by Filipinos, but the Philippines itself is secularizing. Already we have bled out a lot to Protestant groups. Soon our immigrants may not even be Christians anymore.

I think the nice thing about Canada today is the PC culture has provided a pseudo-truce. You can’t speak ugly about Christians because that would be bigotry. But Christians also cannot speak against homosexuality or divorce and remarriage, which would also be construed as bigotry. At least the liberal agenda isn’t rubbed up against our faces, but we ourselves are limited in what we can say or do. In America I feel there is that angry energy that just wants to steamroll the Christian faith. In Canada it is muted and everyone is operating on a live-and-let-live attitude. I don’t know if that is a good thing because it still doesn’t make being a Christian any easier. The only benefit I see is that it is not so in-your-face that you can create a bubble and keep your kids shielded within in for a time.

 

[SuperLuigi]

I am sure Canadians would be surprised to learn they have no freedom.

Methinks you have drunk a wee bit too much Kool Aid yourself. USA is a great country, but it is not a three-letter synonym for freedom.

Shalom and ICXC NIKA

Having a Catholic bishop summoned to testify because he disagrees with same-sex marriage is not my idea for freedom.

BTW, have they by any given the same treatment to Muslim clergy?

 

[Crescentinus]

LOL!!! I could see that happening to Catholicism and Christianity as a whole. But I can’t foresee that happening to heterosexuality.

While homosexuality has been brought more into the mainstream and given some “cool point” by the public at large, it is still a minority orientation of human sexuality. And male homosexuality is embraced by liberals and the liberal media in the form of televised minstrels (the way black people used to be embraced). The one exception I can think of was that well crafted movie Broke Back Mountain.

Just society encourages far less persecution of male homosexuals and lesbians (or racial minorities) does not mean the sky is falling on heterosexuals (or white people).

Take Mia Maestro. What 100 gay guys prefer to do to each other in Milwaukee would have no bearing on what I might prefer to do with a woman endowed with her physical proportions and curves. I’m pretty sure 10,000 heterosexual males would agree with me irrespective of their political leanings.

http://www.miamaestro.net/Mia-Maestro-Dress.jpg

I take it that many here are not aware of heterophobia.