An adult question about "Holy Communion"

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I have a Brother-in-law that lives a homosexual lifestyle and still continues to take the communion. I asked him why he thought that was ok and he told me that he was taught that as long as he felt worthy it is OK. I’m mormon and don’t know much about the Catholic Church. What little I do know would make me feel that that should not be right.
What is the truth? Serious replies only.
 
Hello,

I am new to the Catholic faith this year, so I hope that I will answer this accurately. Cradle Catholics, correct me if I am wrong.

Any person that is committing mortal sin, and is aware that it is a mortal sin, and I can assure you that he knows this is wrong in the eyes of the church, SHOULD NOT be taking communion or participating in any sacrament until he has confessed and abandons this terrible sin.

He should go to confession and lead a new life. But most people believe that when they go to confession that this allows them to have their slate wiped clean and can continue to lead a sinful life. People today want to make up their own rules so they can justify their lifestyles.

Confession means to be truly sorry and to strive to do better. And when I say truly sorry, I mean so sorry that you have hurt the Lord with your sins, not sorry because you fear you are going to hell, although that may be the case. Continuing to live a homosexual lifestyle and taking the most sacred Eucharist is a deadly combination as is any mortal sin.

People like this give the Catholic church a bad name. I know of a lady in our parish that is divorced and has remarried and her husband is in prison, and yet she is leaving with another man half her age and she is taking communion. She says that because her second marriage is not valid through the eyes of the church, that it is o.k. for her to be receiving. Whatever!

And if we take the Eucharist because of our worthiness, then we as sinners would never be worthy. We are worthy only because God’s Son died for all of us horrible sinners.
I will say a prayer for him. That is the best thing you can do for him. Hopefully, he will be called to repentance by the Holy Spirit’s nudging.

Please don’t believe everything that people tell you about the Catholic church. Most people don’t have a clue what the church teaches. You have come to a good place for an answer. I hope this helped.

+In Christ,
Brenda Alexander
lefthand36
 
Lefthand, it appears you had an excellent RCIA instructor! Great answer! 👍
 
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leschornmom:
I have a Brother-in-law that lives a homosexual lifestyle and still continues to take the communion. I asked him why he thought that was ok and he told me that he was taught that as long as he felt worthy it is OK. I’m mormon and don’t know much about the Catholic Church. What little I do know would make me feel that that should not be right.
What is the truth? Serious replies only.
leschornmom, 1st of all, Welcome, and I hope you learn alot. Now in the case of you brother-in law, no he is not to recieve communion. The reason being is because we believe that Jesus is really present there, and if you have a guilty consience, you should not recieve the lord, without prior sacramental confession. I think the reason is found in the Bible, lemme show you:

1 Corinthians: 23-32

23 11 For I received from the Lord what I also handed on to you, that the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread, 24 and, after he had given thanks, broke it and said, “This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes. 27 **Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. 12 ****28 ****A person should examine himself, 13 and so eat the bread and drink the cup. ****29 ****For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment 14 on himself. ****30 ****That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying. ****31 **If we discerned ourselves, we would not be under judgment; 32 but since we are judged by (the) Lord, we are being disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

There you go, if I am wrong, feel free to correct me, Peace, bye.
 
Detroit Sue,

Thank you. I did have a good RCIA instructor. I have been trying to pour myself over the catechism, too.

I got involved in some MSN chat groups that were really misleading, but this forum has been fantastic. I am so eager to grasp the teachings, but more of the understanding will come with time as another person told me in this forum, but I thirst so much for the teachings of God’s word. It is food for my soul. It angers me when people try to use God’s words to condone their sinful lifestyles. I guess it is o.k. to be jealous for the Lord.

I am glad that I explained it appropriately.

Good bless,
Brenda
lefthand36
 
RomanRyan,

It sounds good to me. I don’t think that you can get any better than that, because God’s word is truth. People just want to make their own rules and laws. That is the sinner in us, always trying to make our sins seem minor.

If I received the Eucharist because of my worthiness, I would never go forward, because I know that only through His blood can I even begin to move forward. Thank God, it is not because of my worthiness, or anyone’s for that matter, because we would surely be doomed.

Good reply Ryan.

+In His Abiding Love,
Brenda
lefthand36
 
RomanRyan,

I read your profile. Gosh, I am so impressed with your knowledge. According to your profile you are only 16 years old.

“Out of the mouths of babes.” You keep up the good work defending God’s word and church. It stirs this mother of 3 to tears to see such love for the Lord from someone your age.

My only son is 11 years old, and he has a passion for the Lord as you do, Ryan. In this day and time the world has become liberal and a lot of young people don’t seem to care for the Lord anymore, but you have just made a light in my heart shine.

Stay strong in Him and you will never be lead astray. I wish you could have seen my son’s face at Easter when he was able to receive the Eucharist. It was pure love!

God bless you and keep you,
Brenda
lefthand36
 
In many cases people misunderstand the idea of obeying your individual conscience. We are required to obey all the laws of the Catholic church. Even the sacrament of confession is unavailable to any Catholic who is in a state of mortal sin and does not meet the criteria for forgiveness.

In preparation for confession it is essential to be sorry for your sins. It is essential to examine your conscience honestly. It is essential to have a firm commitment to not commit any sin in the future. It is essential to confess your sins sincerely and if required to explain the circumstances to the best of your ability. If these requirements are not satisfied then the attempted confession is itself a sacrilege.

In the case of your brother-in-law, if the facts are as stated, it would seem that he is unconcerned about how he treats himself or his God. I suggest that since God has revealled to you this situation that you are being asked to pray for him as I am sure many of us who read your question will.
 
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lefthand36:
RomanRyan,

I read your profile. Gosh, I am so impressed with your knowledge. According to your profile you are only 16 years old.

“Out of the mouths of babes.” You keep up the good work defending God’s word and church. It stirs this mother of 3 to tears to see such love for the Lord from someone your age.

My only son is 11 years old, and he has a passion for the Lord as you do, Ryan. In this day and time the world has become liberal and a lot of young people don’t seem to care for the Lord anymore, but you have just made a light in my heart shine.

Stay strong in Him and you will never be lead astray. I wish you could have seen my son’s face at Easter when he was able to receive the Eucharist. It was pure love!

God bless you and keep you,
Brenda
lefthand36
Well geez… Thanks for the complement, I must say, I learned alot here. Yes I love Jesus, but I fall into the same sins many teenage Dudes my age fall into, but i’m working on it. I would live to see little children recieve Jesus for the 1st time, I am trying to remember the 1st time I recieved Jesus, but i don’t Remember.
 
I heard that homosexuals can receive the Eucharist if they are chaste. Is this correct, or incorrect? Anyone? Thanks in advance!
 
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leschornmom:
I have a Brother-in-law that lives a homosexual lifestyle and still continues to take the communion. I asked him why he thought that was ok and he told me that he was taught that as long as he felt worthy it is OK. I’m mormon and don’t know much about the Catholic Church. What little I do know would make me feel that that should not be right.
What is the truth? Serious replies only.
If you are living in sin, you are not supposed to recieve communion. It is considered to be a sacrelige if you have sin on your soul but you go to communion. It is also detrimental to yourself if you do so, because you do not examine yourself properly beforehand and you aren’t having proper respect for the sacriment. If you look at 1cor11
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 29** For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.**

KJV bible.
 
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NightRider:
I heard that homosexuals can receive the Eucharist if they are chaste. Is this correct, or incorrect? Anyone? Thanks in advance!
That is correct. Your feelings or inclinations are not sinful, since they are not controlled by the will. If you do not dwell on sinful temptations, there is no sin.

Actions are what CAN be sinful, but also remember every sin needs 3 factors:
Serious matter
sufficient reflection
full concent of the will

Also there are circumstances which lessen the culpability of the person

(The most common example would be misssing Mass on Sunday when you are sick)

We can judge the action, but not the person. Only God and the person know who has committed a sin. So while we can say it certainly appears that the person committed a sin, we cannot and should not say anyone is guilty of sin. It is never a good idea to discuss the sins of another.

But yes, the rule of the Church is that if you have a lifestyle not in accordance with Church laws, you should not receive Communion (or participate in lay ministry) I have seen EMHC in this situation.

SuZ
 
Thank you guys so much I appreciate the honesty! You have been Very helpful.

I also hold respect for a young man with a desire to search out God’s truth. Have peace in knowing that none of us are without sin!🙂

leschornmom
 
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