An emptier Hell than most believe?

[archangel04]

What would you say has more life, Arch Angel–a photograph of a living person, or the living person herself?

A person of course, but I think you are taking the statement out of context. The picture is used as a description of eternity, not the value of a person’s life.

 

[archangel04]

Now, first, let me state that I am not, by any means, an accredited theologian. I am an 18 year old male in college, one who has struggled with sin, although I continue to fight hard. I hope that what I am saying is not contrary to Church doctrine. I am not trying to say Church doctrine is wrong, I am trying to interpret it.

Now, as to the idea of Hell, we, as Catholics, know this:

1. Hell exists. We cannot access it in this life, but it exists.
2. God does not send people to Hell, people send themselves to Hell. This is without a doubt 100% true, for if it were not, God would not be all-loving. An all-loving God does not send people to Hell, but people can send themselves to Hell.
3. Whereas Heaven is physical, mental, and spiritual perfection, Hell is the exact opposite. Therefore, there must be some degree of misery in Hell. It may not be the traditional Inferno-style punishment, but it will not be enjoyable.
4. Heaven and Hell are a final destination, by our standards. Once one ends up in Heaven or Hell, they are there for eternity.

HOWEVER, THERE IS HOPE.

We, as human beings, are not the absolute perfection that is God, and are not able to fully contemplate the concept of “eternity”. In our view, eternity is forever in this realm of time.

But, is this necessarily God’s view of eternity? We will never become all-knowing. Even in Heaven, while we are made aware of so much, God still knows more.

As God has stated in the Bible, a thousand years are but the blink of an eye to Him. Time does not control God, God controls time. He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. He has always been, always is, and always will be.

Now, try to wrap your head around the idea of God having always existed. He has never begun, He just is. This is not comprehendable by humans, being that everything outside of God that we experience has a beginning at least at some point in the history of the universe.

But it is nonetheless truth, so we accept it.

So, if God’s existance in time is different than ours (We all had a beginning, our souls were created at a point in time), and God controls time, He must control the concept of eternity.

Therefore, it is possible that God can make eternity…not eternity, if that makes any sense.

Look, I am not saying that God eventually will reconcile all souls in Hell into Heaven. I am saying it is within His power to do so. This is fully compatible with Church doctrine. God has the power to change whatever He wishes about the universe.

If God decided, at one point, “Let the gates of Hell be opened, and let all the damned be reconciled to me,” do you really think the gates will stay closed? The powers of Hell are very great by human standards. Compared to God’s power, however, they are weaker than the smallest dust mite.

So now the question is raised, “Well, if God doesn’t do that, is that really merciful of Him?”

The answer is yes, as, in a way, God has already opened the gates of Hell. He sent down His Son to us to die a most horrible death, all so that we might be able to obtain salvation. If that is not mercy, I don’t really know what is.

If God were to eliminate Hell completely, then why bother trying to please Him? Mercy requires justice. Hell must exist in order for God to be loving. He is not sending people to Hell, He is saying, “You chose to not want Me, and so, you get as you asked.” He is basically giving people what they want.

Why would anyone want Hell though?

This is where I think the idea of God’s mercy shines through even more. I believe that God gives us innumerable chances to be one with him, even right before death. I am well aware of St. Faustina’s vision of Divine Mercy, and as I have researched it, I think there is much truth to it. The Church has accepted it, for starters, meaning it is fully acceptable to believe. Divine Mercy does mean we must ignore the Sacrament of Penance, rather, it brings one closer to Christ. I greatly, greatly, greatly encourage you all to go to Penance and Mass this Sunday and receive the blessings of Divine Mercy.

I think that the idea of Divine Mercy is proof that Hell is not as populated as it seems. I think that it shows that God will do whatever He can to win us over. I definitely think that while the gate to the right path may be narrow, and the gate to the path of destruction may be wide, God’s mercy is so great, that more are able to go through the narrow gate than once believed. I do think that most people go to Heaven when they die. I do know that there are many that go to Hell, but, I think that they are greatly outnumbered by the righteous. Maybe this has to do with my belief that, in general, people do honestly want to be good, but do not know how to get there.

May Christ bless you all and may all experience His wonderful mercy.

We live our life and every day is a chance to repent and turn to God. Jesus told us to be perfect like your Father is perfect in heaven, meaning that we should always strive for that perfection. Anything or anyone in this universe or dimensions are under the command of God. The Lord is so merciful that He has allowed those that die in His grace, but not yet fully purified to go through purgatory so that they too can enter into His kingdom.

 

[spockrates]

A person of course, but I think you are taking the statement out of context. The picture is used as a description of eternity, not the value of a person’s life.

Not taking anything out of context; just asking questions hoping your answers will help me understand what you know. What I’m wondering is how life is possible if there is no space and no time. It seems to me that you and me, in such a state of existence, would be nothing more than photographs or paintings. For we’d have no room to move, and no time to think. The character in a motion picture would have more life than us!

But perhaps I’m misunderstanding you. What do you think gives a life more value? The presence of space and time, or a complete absence of them?

 

[Norval]

Back to basics. One third of the angels were exiled from heaven because they went with Lucifer, who decide he knew better than God. Then we have Adam and Eve who ate of the tree of knowledge, they thought they would know better than God. They did discover who there were in comparison to God. As Jesus gave the phrase to St. Catherine of Senna, “Thou the all, I the nothing”, telling her when she made that part of her thinking she would be in good hands.
I know that personal apperations are not dogma but I believe they help fill in and explain some of our questioning. At Fatima Luci asked Mother Mary about two girls that they knew and had died. Mother Mary told her one was in heaven and the other would be in Purgatory till the end of time. (Second Coming) We do not know what a young girl could have done to remain in Purgatory for a great deal of time. Jesus told St. Faustina that His Love and Mercy was infinite but Justice would be served.
Why did Jesus become man and suffer a horrible death as a sacrifice for our sins?. Justice must be served, God’s law is God’s law. Even He goes by His own laws. The atonement had to be Divine to satisfy the offence. God could have brushed it off as inconsequencial but He stood by His law and sacrificed His own Son for our redemption.
The teaching is if we are in the state of grace at death we will go to, probably Purgatory. The good news is that if you go to Purgatory you will eventially end in Heaven. I get from the bible and other reading the main idea of Purgatory is to purge the soul of any unGod like tendencies as we have to be perfect to stand in His presence. We also have the problem of temporal punishment for our forgiven sins.
I believe there are many souls in hell and most of them are there because of pride and immorality. Love does cover a mulitude of sin. We really have a loving Father!
Experience is learning from mistakes. God Bless! Norval

 

[bpaynter]

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I believe there are many souls in hell and most of them are there because of pride and immorality. Love does cover a mulitude of sin. We really have a loving Father!
Experience is learning from mistakes. God Bless! Norval

I, on the other hand, believe that there may be no souls in hell at all. I also know that I do not at the end of this life wish to be hell’s one and only resident.
Thank you for the blessing!

 

[presidentjlh]

I, on the other hand, believe that there may be no souls in hell at all. I also know that I do not at the end of this life wish to be hell’s one and only resident.
Thank you for the blessing!

Well, we do know that Satan’s there, so we know that the population is at least one.

Oh, what joy it would bring me if only Satan and his fellow failures were in Hell. What happiness it would bring me. Although it’s not very likely, with God, all things are possible.

Purgatory isn’t a fun place, we know that, but the fact that, even though it is painful and unpleasant, one is bound for Heaven in it, I think that the souls must focus their minds on that fact, and so while they suffer, deep down, there is happiness.

We should not live our lives under the assumption that no matter what, we’ll go to Heaven, but we can always hope that all do go to Heaven in the end.

 

[bpaynter]

Purgatory isn’t a fun place, we know that, but the fact that, even though it is painful and unpleasant, one is bound for Heaven in it, I think that the souls must focus their minds on that fact, and so while they suffer, deep down, there is happiness.

We should not live our lives under the assumption that no matter what, we’ll go to Heaven, but we can always hope that all do go to Heaven in the end.

I opined earlier in this thread that the fires of purgatory were the love of God experienced by those getting used to it.
Does anyone notice, BTW, that in prayers for the dead, whether at the funeral or subsequently, purgatory is never mentioned.? They are all about resting in peace and perpetual light. Strong hope is in order! Amen

 

[spockrates]

… Jesus told St. Faustina that His Love and Mercy was infinite but Justice would be served…

Norval:

If what the saint said really was from the Son of God, then it appears God’s mercy is demonstrated even to those in Hell. For if it were not, there would be a limit to His mercy–it would be limited to those outside of Hell. And a mercy that has limits cannot possibly be unlimited and infinite. Don’t you agree?

 

[presidentjlh]

Norval:

If what the saint said really was from the Son of God, then it appears God’s mercy is demonstrated even to those in Hell. For if it were not, there would be a limit to His mercy–it would be limited to those outside of Hell. And a mercy that has limits cannot possibly be unlimited and infinite. Don’t you agree?

While I understand what you are driving at, God’s Mercy is for those who want it.

Not everyone wants it, unfortunately.

However, I do believe that most people do want it sincerely, and try their best to live so as to obtain His Mercy. That’s why I believe most people, in the end, go to Purgatory or Heaven.

I understand that Christ talked about the “narrow gate” and the “wide gate”, but isn’t more than one person in Hell “many”, if you understand what I’m saying.

I believe and trust in God’s Mercy. I believe that He knows our hearts, and knows that most people try their best. While I’m not saying that He just lets everyone into Heaven, I do think He factors the intent of people into the whole equation. Almost 2/3rds of the human race is not Christian, and most of those have never been really exposed to Christianity other than with some little synopses and summaries. How can they know the whole story of the Faith? They are invincibly ignorant. As for the 1/3rd that is Christian, still most of those don’t know a lot about how bad their sins are.

This is why I think most people go to Purgatory or Heaven. I know some will quote some saints saying otherwise, but I am sure there are some saints that agree with me.

 

[1WATCHER]

Now, first, let me state that I am not, by any means, an accredited theologian. I am an 18 year old male in college, one who has struggled with sin, although I continue to fight hard. I hope that what I am saying is not contrary to Church doctrine. I am not trying to say Church doctrine is wrong, I am trying to interpret it.

Now, as to the idea of Hell, we, as Catholics, know this:

1. Hell exists. We cannot access it in this life, but it exists.
2. God does not send people to Hell, people send themselves to Hell. This is without a doubt 100% true, for if it were not, God would not be all-loving. An all-loving God does not send people to Hell, but people can send themselves to Hell.
3. Whereas Heaven is physical, mental, and spiritual perfection, Hell is the exact opposite. Therefore, there must be some degree of misery in Hell. It may not be the traditional Inferno-style punishment, but it will not be enjoyable.
4. Heaven and Hell are a final destination, by our standards. Once one ends up in Heaven or Hell, they are there for eternity.

HOWEVER, THERE IS HOPE.

We, as human beings, are not the absolute perfection that is God, and are not able to fully contemplate the concept of “eternity”. In our view, eternity is forever in this realm of time.
But, is this necessarily God’s view of eternity? We will never become all-knowing. Even in Heaven, while we are made aware of so much, God still knows more.
As God has stated in the Bible, a thousand years are but the blink of an eye to Him. Time does not control God, God controls time. He is the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. He has always been, always is, and always will be.

Now, try to wrap your head around the idea of God having always existed. He has never begun, He just is. This is not comprehendable by humans, being that everything outside of God that we experience has a beginning at least at some point in the history of the universe.

But it is nonetheless truth, so we accept it.

So, if God’s existance in time is different than ours (We all had a beginning, our souls were created at a point in time), and God controls time, He must control the concept of eternity.

Therefore, it is possible that God can make eternity…not eternity, if that makes any sense.

Look, I am not saying that God eventually will reconcile all souls in Hell into Heaven. I am saying it is within His power to do so. This is fully compatible with Church doctrine. God has the power to change whatever He wishes about the universe.

If God decided, at one point, “Let the gates of Hell be opened, and let all the damned be reconciled to me,” do you really think the gates will stay closed? The powers of Hell are very great by human standards. Compared to God’s power, however, they are weaker than the smallest dust mite.

So now the question is raised, “Well, if God doesn’t do that, is that really merciful of Him?”

The answer is yes, as, in a way, God has already opened the gates of Hell. He sent down His Son to us to die a most horrible death, all so that we might be able to obtain salvation. If that is not mercy, I don’t really know what is.

Why would anyone want Hell though?

This is where I think the idea of God’s mercy shines through even more. I believe that God gives us innumerable chances to be one with him, even right before death. I am well aware of St. Faustina’s vision of Divine Mercy, and as I have researched it, I think there is much truth to it. The Church has accepted it, for starters, meaning it is fully acceptable to believe. Divine Mercy does mean we must ignore the Sacrament of Penance, rather, it brings one closer to Christ. I greatly, greatly, greatly encourage you all to go to Penance and Mass this Sunday and receive the blessings of Divine Mercy.

I think that the idea of Divine Mercy is proof that Hell is not as populated as it seems. I think that it shows that God will do whatever He can to win us over. I definitely think that while the gate to the right path may be narrow, and the gate to the path of destruction may be wide, God’s mercy is so great, that more are able to go through the narrow gate than once believed. I do think that most people go to Heaven when they die. I do know that there are many that go to Hell, but, I think that they are greatly outnumbered by the righteous. Maybe this has to do with my belief that, in general, people do honestly want to be good, but do not know how to get there.

May Christ bless you all and may all experience His wonderful mercy.

What a fine response, understand this and accept it as a token of Wonderful gift of Wisdom, you possess many traits of wisdom and are proof of AGE is not a measure of knowledge and I personally could not stop smiling because of the Joy in Your Heart. knowing the eternal GOD of MERCY and yes as stated before…

The only unforgiveable Sin is blasphmey of the Holy Spirit… in a simple example is this : Just as judas betrayed the Son of Man and then tried to correct it by returning the siliver coins, FAILED to hell because he did not return the the GOD of Mercy and seek Forgiveness but instead attempted to correct himself and even though the Holy Spirit was with him and with drawing Him and Directing him to come back into the grace of the Almighty so then by Forsaking the Spirit of GOD CONDEMNED HIMSELF (blasphmey) away from the Father’s Mercy and any attempt to allow himself to come and be with the Most Holy of All… then when we today only seek to put ourselves as our own First god we seek to live our life as we desire and expect no conquences to those most important of all choice to put GOD first…

 

[archangel04]

I, on the other hand, believe that there may be no souls in hell at all. I also know that I do not at the end of this life wish to be hell’s one and only resident.
Thank you for the blessing!

You are forgetting that not everyone want’s God’s mercy and love! How is it possible for an all loving God to force someone to be with Him against their own will? This will contradict the very nature of our Lord. What we forget is that hell is not an actual place it’s a state of the absence of the experience of the love of God and a state (made by choice) of no return, this is church doctrine. Hell is a metaphysical(without material form or substance) eternal experience.

 

[PAboy57]

Interesting comments all.

I think most of the human race, that is aware of God, is trying to bend the rules to suit their purpose. The reason Jesus died that terrible death is because this is no child’s game. All the marbles rest on how we live in union with God’s laws.

Mercy is there but you have to want it and you have to change your life. You can’t believe in part of what the Church teaches and think you are going to get to Heaven. At the end you will be in either Heaven or hell. And most will be in hell. I really do wish it was easier but I honestly can’t believe that is the case. Heaven is the reward for those who seek Mercy and conform to the rules period.

If God would let his divine son Jesus suffer like he did, how much tolerance do you think he has for us living the easy life and not being really decent folks. I agree that pride and morality are the major reasons people will go to hell. So we better pay attention to the 10 commandments and get with the program.

Please take advantage of Divine Mercy Sunday. He really does want us with him in Heaven but us bending the rules won’t cut it. take care everyone.

 

[Norval]

There have been many interesting comments in this thread. We all have the choice to seek heaven or hell. The road to perdition is the wide smooth gradually decending path. It takes no work, all that is needed is to stay nice comfy and cozy and just slide along. St. Faustina was told by Jesus (private revelation) as per her diary, that there were many souls in Purgatory and He also mentioned in one of the entries that the scourging at the pillar was related to the sins of immorality. In the bible it is written , “unless you become like little children…” Nicodemus asked Jesus about that. St Catherine of Genoa wrote about Purgatory. The part that applies is a spiritual dialogue between the soul, the body, self love, the Spirit, humanity, and God. It is a dialogue so it is not an easy read, which is good because it gives time to reflect on the ideas expressed.
We have the choice, we are not able to have the cake and eat it also. The devil (fallen ones) are real and they lead as many astray as they are able. The Little Flower and St. Theresa of Calcutta are great examples of doing everyday little things of living in a humble holy manner. It works!
God Bless!!! Norval

 

[ContegoFides]

I think this whole topic is kind of missing the mark. It’s been revealed that Hell exists and that those in it are “legion.” (Jesus ordered a demon to give its name, and the response was legion.)

However, the proportion of souls there versus those that live is, I think, irrelevant.

What is relevant is how each of us personally lives our lives in accordance with Christs’ commands, and whether we observe what he commanded to receive eternal life through His sacrifice. Revelations, such as Fatima, really only serve to help motivate us to do that and thus avoid Hell.

 

[presidentjlh]

The only unforgiveable Sin is blasphmey of the Holy Spirit… in a simple example is this : Just as judas betrayed the Son of Man and then tried to correct it by returning the siliver coins, FAILED to hell because he did not return the the GOD of Mercy and seek Forgiveness but instead attempted to correct himself and even though the Holy Spirit was with him and with drawing Him and Directing him to come back into the grace of the Almighty so then by Forsaking the Spirit of GOD CONDEMNED HIMSELF (blasphmey) away from the Father’s Mercy and any attempt to allow himself to come and be with the Most Holy of All… then when we today only seek to put ourselves as our own First god we seek to live our life as we desire and expect no conquences to those most important of all choice to put GOD first…

Indeed. I think that the terminology describing the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit must be changed. When people hear the word “unforgiveable”, they think this means that even if they go to Confession, and make a good honest confession, they aren’t forgiven.

On the contrary, they would be definitely forgiven by God. No sin is to great for God to forgive.

The reason blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is called the “unforgiveable sin” is not that God won’t forgive us for it, but that we won’t let Him. We refuse to realize His Mercy, and thus, are not allowing ourselves to be forgiven. We are making the sin unforgiveable.

As to the other comments:

PAboy57: While you are without a doubt correct that there are people trying to bend God’s rules to match theirs, I can claim, from personal experience, most of them honestly aren’t fully aware that what they are doing is wrong. Even when we tell them, they are so blinded by the culture of today that they are still quite honestly ignorant of it all. That’s why I say most people go to Purgatory or Heaven (Purgatory is honestly probably the most common immediate destination for people after they die, I think.)

I did not know that almost all the mortal sins I was committing were mortal a few years ago. When I found out, I struggled, but am making headway in changing my ways. But, I was quite ignorant of the whole matter before hand. I highly doubt that many people are fully aware of their wrongdoings. Indeed there are mortal sins like murder and such that people are definitely aware of.

Norval:

Indeed, I have found the revelations that St. Faustina experienced to be extremely enlightening. I have found Purgatory not to be an evil thing, but, on the contrary, to be one of the great blessings of humanity. Yes, it is extremely unpleasant and painful, but, the knowledge of the souls knowing that Heaven is theirs? Pure rapture.

Like I said, I honestly believe that most people, all around the world, when they die, go to Purgatory. As I have stated, about 2/3rds of the Earth is not Christian, and the vast majority of those did not choose to be such, and are not able to be aware of the faith. And, about a billion people are Protestant, most of them being born into Protestant faith. I doubt most of the latter are fully aware of their mortal sins.

And, yes, the Catholics. Well, as I recalled out of previous experience, a great, great number of Catholics are not fully aware of their mortal sins. They may know some mortal sins, but they are not fully aware of the reprecussions or the infallibility of the Church.

So, most people are committing venial sins when they sin. It’s people like us, the ones that know the whole deal, that got to really work at it. But our knowledge is a blessing, not a curse.

 

[cranster]

NY was just an example, it could be any city, but preferably a city like NY or London, and not a random city in outer Mongolia where no T.V cameras are rolling, do you get my gist?

Yes, why not to the entire world? Mine was an example, it doesn’t really matter if it’s on display to NY or to the entire world.

Why a permanent display for eternity? Once there has been some video evidence of this, who is going to dispute it? In any case, a permanent display in the sky is ugly, I want to see a blue sky, perhaps after the initial display, we can erect something and it can be permanently displayed in there

Just answer the questions mate.

Let’s follow your logic with the way human’s actually respond to these types of things. If the display isn’t permanent then let’s say in 2,000 years it will be called an ancient myth of the information age. If “WE” erect something with a permanent display how long do you think it would take for people to say it was nothing but special effects. In 2000 years they’d say that the people who supposedly witnessed the event never existed. People do it all the time with spectacular events like the resurrection of Jesus, and the miracle of the sun at Fatima witnessed by 75,000 less than a century ago, if either of those don’t have a chance with atheists and agnostics is there really anything that would work? I highly doubt it.

 

[dgdough]

The fact is that our Lord himself said that the gate is very narrow. That alone should tell you that not everyone enters into the kingdom of heaven. I don’t speak for God (thank heaven for that), but His mercy & forgivness ends at the time of our death. Once we pass that line of no return, His perfect justice begins and WE decide what end our wills have chosen. You speak about people who have had the good news shown to them, but they still refuse it, but claim that they still have love for other; Our purpose in this life is to know and love God, so how can somone who never loved God in this life be able to love him in his kingdom? No my friend, as sad as it makes me to say it, but I feel our lady was right when she said those words. In this age we never want to work hard for what our Lord wants to give us, we just wanted hand it to us without picking up our own cross. I never claim who is in hell, that is up to our Lord, but if we don’t seek God in this life, then we will never find him in the next.The kingdom of heaven must be faught for and suffered for, so that we can enter it (God willing), but in the end it will be darn worth it.

This seems to be on point, here is scripture to back it up:

John 3:18, “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

A lot of people believe IN Jesus Christ but few believe ON Jesus Christ. Sorry to say Hell is packed with souls…but you can mitigate that by winning souls to Christ. Preach the Gospel!

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

 

[saveusfromhell]

don’t be so sure that many if most don’t end up in hell. Moses led the people out of slavery, the chosen people were marked with the blood of the lamb on their doors.during the passover.
Christ saves the people from slavery of sin by sacrificing himself as the lamb whose blood and body we recieve during holy communion.again he diid this during the feast of the passover.
only a small number of those who had been marked with the blood of the lamb in moses time made it to the promise land i can’t recall though how many maybe as few as forty.
Christ talks more about hell than he does about heaven. it is these little ones who shall inherit heaven is this because most adults die in mortal sin The road is broad. easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. etc etc
he has given us gifts to help us sacramentals from his mother like the brown and green scapular but how many use them.
padre pio said those who pray a lot or assured of heaven those who pray a little or in danger those who don’t or lost
Fatima many go to hell because they have nobody to pray for them
st john of bosco visions are terrifying on how easy it is to end up in hell.

 

[spockrates]

While I understand what you are driving at, God’s Mercy is for those who want it.

Not everyone wants it, unfortunately.

However, I do believe that most people do want it sincerely, and try their best to live so as to obtain His Mercy. That’s why I believe most people, in the end, go to Purgatory or Heaven.

I understand that Christ talked about the “narrow gate” and the “wide gate”, but isn’t more than one person in Hell “many”, if you understand what I’m saying.

I believe and trust in God’s Mercy. I believe that He knows our hearts, and knows that most people try their best. While I’m not saying that He just lets everyone into Heaven, I do think He factors the intent of people into the whole equation. Almost 2/3rds of the human race is not Christian, and most of those have never been really exposed to Christianity other than with some little synopses and summaries. How can they know the whole story of the Faith? They are invincibly ignorant. As for the 1/3rd that is Christian, still most of those don’t know a lot about how bad their sins are.

This is why I think most people go to Purgatory or Heaven. I know some will quote some saints saying otherwise, but I am sure there are some saints that agree with me.

Yes, and Purgatory is one reason why I reverted from being a Protestant to becoming a Catholic once again. However, I’m not asking whether God is merciful to the living. I’m asking whether God is merciful to the dead–to those already in Hell. And if He is not merciful to them, then does He treat them justly? You see? And I’m not saying that He is not just or not merciful to the damned. I’m saying I don’t yet know how He is, though I have a theory. Would you care to hear it?

 

[spockrates]

Interesting comments all.

I think most of the human race, that is aware of God, is trying to bend the rules to suit their purpose. The reason Jesus died that terrible death is because this is no child’s game. All the marbles rest on how we live in union with God’s laws.

Mercy is there but you have to want it and you have to change your life. You can’t believe in part of what the Church teaches and think you are going to get to Heaven. At the end you will be in either Heaven or hell. And most will be in hell. I really do wish it was easier but I honestly can’t believe that is the case. Heaven is the reward for those who seek Mercy and conform to the rules period.

If God would let his divine son Jesus suffer like he did, how much tolerance do you think he has for us living the easy life and not being really decent folks. I agree that pride and morality are the major reasons people will go to hell. So we better pay attention to the 10 commandments and get with the program.

Please take advantage of Divine Mercy Sunday. He really does want us with him in Heaven but us bending the rules won’t cut it. take care everyone.

Yes, God’s timing is perfect! Who’d of thunk that our discussions of Hell would be a precursor to learning more about His Mercy and Justice Divine?